Your Views on The Trinity

[mikesw]

This scripture plainly says the Son stretched out the heavens and laid the foundations of the earth.

Then the Son became flesh.

But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
And: “You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands.
Hebrews 1:8-10


Who stretched out the heavens and the earth in this passage?

The Father or the Son?

I feel like the guy cannot even do simple logic. On one hand it is true that Jesus had not be born yet. However, the divine person existed and became known as Jesus. It is like the unitarians cannot figure out something so basic to the testimony of scripture.

 

[Peterlag]

God put his name in every spot of OT where GOD or LORD is found in the altered translations. Why? Because God wants it there, its his will, its satans will to have his name removed=to mislead.

I would comment if I understood what your point is. Even the word "god" is used in both the Old and New Testament referring to others besides God. The word Lord as well. We can't build teachings on names. I know 2 Spanish baseball players who have the name of Jesus. And nobody thinks they are God.

 

[Peterlag]

This scripture plainly says the Son stretched out the heavens and laid the foundations of the earth.

Then the Son became flesh.

But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
And: “You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands.
Hebrews 1:8-10


Who stretched out the heavens and the earth in this passage?

The Father or the Son?

It is not plainly stated. Not even stated. God stretched out the heavens and laid the foundations of the earth. Why you think it was someone else is beyond me.

 

[Runningman]

I asked a simple question. If you don’t want to answer it then just say so.

The is Hebrews 1:8-10.



But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
And: “You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands.
Hebrews 1:8-10


Who stretched out the heavens and the earth in this passage?

The Father or the Son?

The Father. Son wasn't involved in creation of the material universe.

 

[civic]

All arguments aside, John 17:1-3 is still there saying that the Father is the only true God. The plain text reading of the passage is intuitive and doesn't invite anyone to attempt to refute Jesus or explain away what he said.

It's also repeated explicitly in 1 Corinthians 8:6 and Ephesians 4:6. So we have a doctrine about the Father being the only true God, not just a standalone verse about the matter. What is your workaround for those?

No it’s saying the Son is equal with the Father with eternal life and the Father and Son were together in fellowship sharing the exact same glory together with each other before creation. John 17:3-5

hope this helps !!!

 

[Peterlag]

No it’s saying the Son is equal with the Father with eternal life and the Father and Son were together in fellowship sharing the exact same glory together with each other before creation. John 17:3-5

hope this helps !!!

May I have the Scripture that says...

1.) The son is equal with the Father
2.) The Father and son were together sharing the exact same glory together before creation