Your views on human beings having a sin nature

[e v e]

Some of us believe the fall resulted in the birth of a sin nature in Adam.

adam brought about our being in this type of fleshbody not made by God,
which is sin 'nature'

That is because all people shared in Adam’s guilt,

adam s actions are his...

this sin nature was passed on to all future generations.

this type of body

As a result, sin is pervasive in every man and woman.

yes it's this type of body and its mind

And it is out of this sin nature that we do sinful acts.

the body itself is sin

I'd like to know what some of the rest of us believe on this topic.

 

[e v e]

'Beware lest any man spoil you
through philosophy and vain deceit,
after the tradition of men,
after the rudiments of the world,
and not after Christ.'
(Col 2:8)

Hello DanP,

I was not saying that Paul himself was apostate: of course not. Please do not jump to wrong conclusions but read what is actually being said. Although I can understand why you should have mistaken my meaning in this case, because I did not express myself very well.

Paul warned of apostacy in his day: that is what I wished to convey, for it was present then.

In Christ Jesus
Chris

His reign is to be in paradise, our land, which is not on this earth

 

[101G]

Some of us believe the fall resulted in the birth of a sin nature in Adam. That is because all people shared in Adam’s guilt, this sin nature was passed on to all future generations. As a result, sin is pervasive in every man and woman. And it is out of this sin nature that we do sinful acts. I'd like to know what some of the rest of us believe on this topic.

DEATH, not a sin nature, read the verse again. Therefore, as sin came into the world through one man, and death as the result of sin, so death spread to all men,

remember, not all sin after Adam sin. Romans 5:12 "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" Romans 5:13 "(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law." Romans 5:14 "Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come."

so it was DEATH that was not stopped. because of the First Adam.

this answers the BABY DEATH, or the New Born Death who had not sinned also. not because of their NATURE, but the circumstantial allowance of the entrance of sin into the world, (which bring about death, young or old).

101G.

 

[Obadiah]

Adam was the corporate head of the human race. What does this mean? Simply that when Adam sinned, he represented all of us. Just as the decisions made by the ruler of a nation affect all the people subject to him, so Adam’s decision to rebel against God affected all humanity. Like Adam, we too rebel against God and deserve punishment. In this sense we all share Adam’s guilt.

Because Adam was representative of humanity, the Fall opened the door for Satan to have direct and powerful influence in this world system, including our individual lives. Satan effectively became the ruler of this present world, and humanity inherited a sin nature—a natural tendency to sin. Just as some diseases are passed on from generation to generation, so too sin is an inherited disease.

While Adam was created with a free will and could choose not to sin, today because of this sin nature, we are incapable of living sinless lives. As a result, sin is pervasive in every person, and it is out of this sin nature that we commit sinful acts.

That's what I'm talking about. It's pretty simple when you put it that way.

 

[Dizerner]

the body itself is sin

I don't suppose you have any Scripture that says this.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Some of us believe the fall resulted in the birth of a sin nature in Adam.

So why did Adam, who supposedly DIDN'T HAVE a "sin nature" fall into SIN in exactly the was described in James 1:14,15???

Obviously Adam's "Nature" NEVER changed. it was "Human nature when he was created, and remained that way. WHat I inherited from Adam was "HUMAN NATURE". nothing more, nothing less.

That is because all people shared in Adam’s guilt, this sin nature was passed on to all future generations.

Sorry but I NEVER shared any part of Adam's "Guilt". I was born INNOCENT, and fell into SIN as soon as I could - just like you.

 

[Dizerner]

So why did Adam, who supposedly DIDN'T HAVE a "sin nature" fall into SIN in exactly the was described in James 1:14,15???

Adam did not sin in "exactly" the same way that is false.

He was not dragged by any desire inside him, that is false.

Yes, you can sin without a sin nature. It's a straw man to say that no sin nature means you can't sin.

Obviously Adam's "Nature" NEVER changed.

God said in the day he ate it HE WOULD DIE.

God did not say in a few days after.

God did not say 900 years after.

IN THE DAY YOU EAT THEREOF YOU SHALL DIE.

Something died.

 

[praise_yeshua]

I don't suppose you have any Scripture that says this.

Rom_7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

 

[praise_yeshua]

I don't suppose you have any Scripture that says this.

Rom_8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin

 

[praise_yeshua]

So why did Adam, who supposedly DIDN'T HAVE a "sin nature" fall into SIN in exactly the was described in James 1:14,15???

Obviously Adam's "Nature" NEVER changed. it was "Human nature when he was created, and remained that way. WHat I inherited from Adam was "HUMAN NATURE". nothing more, nothing less.

Sorry but I NEVER shared any part of Adam's "Guilt". I was born INNOCENT, and fell into SIN as soon as I could - just like you.

Peccable vs Impeccable.

 

[Obadiah]

Before we get saved we're in the flesh and the flesh wants to do what the flesh wants to do. Whether you call it a sin nature or not the results are the same.

They ate from the tree because they had free will and they were tempted and chose to disobey God.

 

[Obadiah]

Rom_8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin

What part of the body do you think is dead when you're in Christ, the sin nature perhaps. And now we're alive to Christ and walking in the spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit.

 

[Dizerner]

Rom_7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

You really think that means the physical body?

Your foot and your nose are sinful?!

 

[Obadiah]

Sorry but I NEVER shared any part of Adam's "Guilt". I was born INNOCENT, and fell into SIN as soon as I could - just like you.

Or as soon as you send nature matured. Can't do a whole lot of sins when you're just born. I'd say you were innocent up until about 6 maybe 7. You may have lied before then, Like where did all those cookies go that were in the cookie jar. You know the ones the dog ate.

 

[Obadiah]

You really think that means the physical body?

Your foot and your nose are sinful?!

I think it means our heart or our personalities. Our desires. You know like walking in the flesh.

 

[Dizerner]

I think it means our heart or our personalities. Our desires. You know like walking in the flesh.

Of course it does.

It's a gnostic belief that the body and material world are somehow evil.

 

[Jamie Russell CME]

 

[Dizerner]

video

"As in Adam all die."

Do you believe this? Explain to me how you are in Adam please?

 

[Obadiah]

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Definitely satire. That's what I call the Sovereignty of God run amok.

 

[Obadiah]

"As in Adam all die."

Do you believe this? Explain to me how you are in Adam please?

All I can think of is that it is where our DNA comes from. That alone could have a lot of implications.