Why The Trinity is Wrong: Definition

[101G]

I reject mystical dualism. Jesus is not God, the Creator of the Universe, in any way or sense.

personal opinion, and not scripture? U know what 101G thinks of personal opinion... (smile)

101G.

 

[Fred]

What dictionary are you using?
: a male parent

Every male parent that I know was created.

Thanks for making this super easy for me.

 

[Wrangler]

personal opinion, and not scripture?

That's trinitarianism. There is only one God and his name is not Jesus. That's Scripture - no matter how you try to back end it otherwise.

 

[Wrangler]

Every male parent that I know was created.

Thanks for making this super easy for me.

All you got is to play word games. In this case, deny the senses of word meanings, deny definition. Father = God. This is stated in every Epistle. Why do you deny Scripture?

May grace and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus, the Anointed One, surround you. First, I thank my God through Jesus the Anointed for all of you. Romans 1:7-8

I pray that God our Father and the Lord Jesus, the Anointed One, will shower you with grace and peace. 1 Cor 1:3

May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
2 Corinthians 1:2

I was not appointed by any group of people or any human authority, but by Jesus Christ himself and by God the Father, who raised Jesus from the dead.
Galatians 1:1

May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
Ephesians 1:2

May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
Philippians 1:2

May God our Father give you grace and peace. Colossians 1:2

We are writing to the church in Thessalonica, to you who belong to God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. 1 & 2 Thessalonians 1:1

May God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord give you grace, mercy, and peace.1 & 2 Timothy 1:2

May God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior give you grace and peace.
Titus 1:4

May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
Philemon 1:3

For God never said to any angel what he said to Jesus: “You are my Son. Today I have become your Father.” God also said, “I will be his Father, and he will be my Son. Hebrews 1:5

Pure and genuine religion in the sight of God the Father means caring. James 1:27

God the Father knew you and chose you long ago, and his Spirit has made you holy. 1 Peter 1:2

when he received honor and glory from God the Father. 2 Peter 1:17

We proclaim ... our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ.
1 John 1:3 (NOTE: Again no reference to the HS)

Grace, mercy, and peace, which come from God the Father. 2 John 1:3

He has made us a Kingdom of priests for God his Father. Revelation 1:6

 

[101G]

That's trinitarianism. There is only one God and his name is not Jesus. That's Scripture - no matter how you try to back end it otherwise

Second ERROR of the DAY. God name was not given in the OT. so if you say God had a PERSONAL name please post it.

book chapter and verse please.

101G.

 

[Wrangler]

Second ERROR of the DAY. God name was not given in the OT.

I'm glad you admit your error.


Again Elohim said to Moses, “This is what you must say to the people of Israel: Yahweh Elohim of your ancestors, the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, has sent me to you. This is my name forever. This is my title throughout every generation.
Exodus 3:15 NOG

 

[101G]

I'm glad you admit your error.

LOL, LOL, LOL, just because a Name is not "GIVEN" dose not mean the Name exist.... (smile).... so what name you gave God?
book chapter and verse please.

101G.

 

[Wrangler]

LOL, LOL, LOL, just because a Name is not "GIVEN" dose not mean the Name exist.... (smile).... so what name you gave God?
book chapter and verse please.

101G.

See post #26.

 

[Fred]

All you got is to play word games.

I'm going by your initial ridiculous assertion.

 

[101G]

See post #26.

Again Elohim said to Moses, “This is what you must say to the people of Israel: Yahweh Elohim of your ancestors, the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, has sent me to you. This is my name forever. This is my title throughout every generation.
Exodus 3:15 NOG

LOL, third and fourth ERROR of the day. a "TITLE" is not your Name... LOL Oh my, "This is my title throughout every generation." you do KNOW that a title is not a Personal Name... Oh My God.

and you do Know that Yahweh" is a man made up name from the Tetragrammaton YHWH, which is by the way a VERB and not a NOUN. you do know the difference, right?

101G

 

[Wrangler]

I'm glad you admit your error.


Again Elohim said to Moses, “This is what you must say to the people of Israel: Yahweh Elohim of your ancestors, the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, has sent me to you. This is my name forever. This is my title throughout every generation.
Exodus 3:15 NOG

a "TITLE" is not your Name... LOL

Ignoring the eternal divine name of God that is underlined and bold in Ex 3:15 is not an argument.

Here is how the NLT puts it.

God also said to Moses, “Say this to the people of Israel: Yahweh, the God of your ancestors—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.​

This is my eternal name,​

my name to remember for all generations.​

 

[Wrangler]

LOL, third and fourth ERROR of the day. a "TITLE" is not your Name

YHWH, This is my name for ever. Not too hard too miss.

The intellectual dishonest is asoutnding to keep pretending this is a title. The personal and eternal name of God, YHWH, is in the Bible about 7,000 times. The personal and eternal name of God is not Jesus.

 

[Rockson]

YHWH, This is my name for ever. Not too hard too miss.

Aren't you maybe insisting that to be taken a certain way and perhaps God isn't? That is in the way you're saying it. So my last name is Richards. I can say rightly that's my name all my life. I do though have two other names before the last main name. A first name and a middle name. Doesn't mean I don't have these others names now does it.

The intellectual dishonest is asoutnding to keep pretending this is a title. The personal and eternal name of God, YHWH, is in the Bible about 7,000 times.

Sure. Now tell us what do you think or consider YHWH to mean? Do you actually think God could have a name like Tom and have it that way for no reason. Just checked...name of Tom some say means innocence or simplicity. Point EVERY name has a meaning. So tell us what is the meaning for YHWH?

The personal and eternal name of God is not Jesus.

If you'll answer my above question we will get to this.

 

[Wrangler]

Aren't you maybe insisting that to be taken a certain way and perhaps God isn't?

No. Hence ...

The personal and eternal name of God, YHWH, is in the Bible about 7,000 times.

 

[Wrangler]

Sure. Now tell us what do you think or consider YHWH to mean? Do you actually think God could have a name like Tom and have it that way for no reason. Just checked...name of Tom some say means innocence or simplicity. Point EVERY name has a meaning. So tell us what is the meaning for YHWH?

If you'll answer my above question we will get to this.

Appeal to Diversion. Yea, right! Moving the goal post. God has one one name, YHWH. It's in Scripture 7,000 times. It does not depend on what his name means.

 

[101G]

Ignoring the eternal divine name of God that is underlined and bold in Ex 3:15 is not an argument.

Here is how the NLT puts it.

God also said to Moses, “Say this to the people of Israel: Yahweh, the God of your ancestors—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.​

This is my eternal name,​

my name to remember for all generations.​

Ok God's Holy Name. what is God proper/PERSONAL name. is it Jehovah, English or Yahweh, in Hebrew. well it's neither, Jehovah, nor Yahweh. let's see how they derived those names from the tetragrammaton, YHWH. The word "JEHOVAH" was formed by merging the three vowels (e, o, and a) into the Romanized (Latinized) four letter version JHVH to get, JeHoVaH. and the word "YAHWEH" was formed by merging the vowels (a, and e), into the four letter version to get, YaHWeH. so we have the English man made, and the Hebrew man made form of God's supposed unpronounced name. here is the mistake. they, (the translator), added vowels to the four letter consonant, to make up a name to pronounce. one can never add or take away from the WORD of God. they added vowels to give God a personal name, because they knew that YHWH "I AM or iH1961 הָיָה hayah (haw-yaw) is a verb, and not a noun. and because the suppose name was lost, which the Jews said was forbidden to pronounce, they made a guess at the name where pointers should be. this was a grave mistake on their part. when you add to the word of God you just put the spiritual noose around your neck. arbitrarily, the translators injected the vowels into the four letter consonant to come up with the names, "YaHWeH", and, "JeHoVaH"

and to prove that the YHWH is not God personal name. God and Moses was talking, Exodus 6:1 "Then the LORD said unto Moses, Now shalt thou see what I will do to Pharaoh: for with a strong hand shall he let them go, and with a strong hand shall he drive them out of his land." Exodus 6:2 "And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD:" Exodus 6:3 "And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them."

question time. "if Abraham did not know the Name Jehovah... YHWH or in Hebrew Yahweh why was the name in Abraham mouth? listen. Genesis 22:14 "And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen."

see the LIE of the translators. well the KJV of the bible expose the Lie and reveal the TRUTH. Isaiah 52:6 "Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I."

well Isaiah is way after Exodus. see these are man-made names ...... from a VERB.

and that DAY was when the Lord Jesus came.

101G

 

[synergy]

Ok God's Holy Name. what is God proper/PERSONAL name. is it Jehovah, English or Yahweh, in Hebrew. well it's neither, Jehovah, nor Yahweh. let's see how they derived those names from the tetragrammaton, YHWH. The word "JEHOVAH" was formed by merging the three vowels (e, o, and a) into the Romanized (Latinized) four letter version JHVH to get, JeHoVaH. and the word "YAHWEH" was formed by merging the vowels (a, and e), into the four letter version to get, YaHWeH. so we have the English man made, and the Hebrew man made form of God's supposed unpronounced name. here is the mistake. they, (the translator), added vowels to the four letter consonant, to make up a name to pronounce. one can never add or take away from the WORD of God. they added vowels to give God a personal name, because they knew that YHWH "I AM or iH1961 הָיָה hayah (haw-yaw) is a verb, and not a noun. and because the suppose name was lost, which the Jews said was forbidden to pronounce, they made a guess at the name where pointers should be. this was a grave mistake on their part. when you add to the word of God you just put the spiritual noose around your neck. arbitrarily, the translators injected the vowels into the four letter consonant to come up with the names, "YaHWeH", and, "JeHoVaH"

and to prove that the YHWH is not God personal name. God and Moses was talking, Exodus 6:1 "Then the LORD said unto Moses, Now shalt thou see what I will do to Pharaoh: for with a strong hand shall he let them go, and with a strong hand shall he drive them out of his land." Exodus 6:2 "And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD:" Exodus 6:3 "And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them."

question time. "if Abraham did not know the Name Jehovah... YHWH or in Hebrew Yahweh why was the name in Abraham mouth? listen. Genesis 22:14 "And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen."

see the LIE of the translators. well the KJV of the bible expose the Lie and reveal the TRUTH. Isaiah 52:6 "Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I."

well Isaiah is way after Exodus. see these are man-made names ...... from a VERB.

and that DAY was when the Lord Jesus came.

101G

Can you tell us your sources and/or a website that comprehensively explains the history of the Hebrew and Greek names of God?

 

[101G]

Can you tell us your sources and/or a website that comprehensively explains the history of the Hebrew and Greek names of God?

(smile), why ask 101G, you have internet access, and if Micrsoft use AI in your search.......

101G.

 

[Rockson]

Appeal to Diversion. Yea, right! Moving the goal post. God has one one name, YHWH.

So why was the name Elohim, Adonai, El-Elyon and others used in scripture? Do you deny that they were? And do you know what those names mean?

It's in Scripture 7,000 times. It does not depend on what his name means.

Doesn't matter Wranger if it's in there 10,000 times. Other names are used in scripture too and in the OT. Are you aware of this? How could you deny it?

 

[Wrangler]

So why was the name Elohim, Adonai, El-Elyon and others used in scripture? Do you deny that they were?

General terms and titles are not the same as a personal name.

Our President might be called man, guy, American but none of these are the personal name for our President, former VP, former Senator.