civic
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I did and exposed your heretical belief about the gospel of grace. The gospel is the grace of God in salvation.
Why do Calvinists deny there is the gospel of grace ?
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Quote my denying anything in that postI did and exposed your heretical belief about the gospel of grace. The gospel is the grace of God in salvation.
civic
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So you were agreeing with me in the 2 posts I quoted is that what you are now going to try and say ?
Quote meFrom Got ? which affirms the OP and they are a calvinist site lol.
“I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile” (Romans 1:16). The gospel is a bold message, and we are not ashamed of proclaiming it. It is a powerful message, because it is God’s good news. It is a saving message, the only thing that can truly reform the human heart. It is a universal message, for Jews and Gentiles both. And the gospel is received by faith; salvation is the gift of God (Ephesians 2:8–9).
The gospel is the good news that God loves the world enough to give His only Son to die for our sin (John 3:16). The gospel is good news because our salvation and eternal life and home in heaven are guaranteed through Christ (John 14:1–4). “He has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you” (1 Peter 1:3–4).
The gospel is good news when we understand that we do not (and cannot) earn our salvation; the work of redemption and justification is complete, having been finished on the cross (John 19:30). Jesus is the propitiation for our sins (1 John 2:2). The gospel is the good news that we, who were once enemies of God, have been reconciled by the blood of Christ and adopted into the family of God (Romans 5:10; John 1:12). “See what great love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are!” (1 John 3:1). The gospel is the good news that “there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” (Romans 8:1).
To reject the gospel is to embrace the bad news. Condemnation before God is the result of a lack of faith in the Son of God, God’s only provision for salvation. “For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son” (John 3:17–18). God has given a doomed world good news: the Gospel of Jesus Christ!
hope this helps !!!
civic
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I'll wait for another calvinist who will engage these passages in the OP and @Presby02 has no interest which is clear as he has diverted the attention away from the gospel of grace below in salvation.
Acts 14:3- So Paul and Barnabas spent considerable time there, speaking boldly for the Lord, who confirmed the message of his grace by enabling them to perform signs and wonders.
Acts 20:24- But I do not account my life of any value nor as precious to myself, if only I may finish my course and the ministry that I received from the Lord Jesus, to testify to the gospel of the grace of God.
Romans 1:16- For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Acts 14:3- So Paul and Barnabas spent considerable time there, speaking boldly for the Lord, who confirmed the message of his grace by enabling them to perform signs and wonders.
Acts 20:24- But I do not account my life of any value nor as precious to myself, if only I may finish my course and the ministry that I received from the Lord Jesus, to testify to the gospel of the grace of God.
Romans 1:16- For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Quote me
civic
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yes their doctrine supersedes scripture and scripture is only viewed through the lens of tulip.
No quote forthcoming? So you were dishonest.
civic
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its a fact as a former calvinist who debated with calvinists against non calvinists before you were ever a church goer. I know from first hand experience and through the many books written by calvinists and Calvins own teaching on the topic. Everything is filtered with the calvinist presuppositions of determinism and tulip.
btw how old are you 30 ?
You cannot read John 6, 10, Ephesians 1, Romans 9 without tulip and determinism as just a few examples.
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civic
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More deflection. Where is my quote Mr honesty? Put your big boy pants on and man up.
civic
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so you can't even be honest with your age. Very telling.
James
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It is very hard to talk with reformed people I have a family with many of them and they are so dogmatic with the doctrines of grace. They would rather talk about them instead of a Bible passage. I just talk about other things when I am around them.
I never gave my age. How is that dishonest?
civic
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Yes it's like a click. When I was a calvinist for many years and in their click I was one of the god guys but when I left Calvinism I became their enemy. I would be mocked, ridiculed, made fun of, called everything under the sun that was derogatory and they liked to gang up on you with the goal of getting you banned on the forum.
That's how this forum came to be was the result of many people who witnessed the abusive behavior and asked me to start my own forum. We allow healthy debates here but ask to treat then opposition with respect and to follow the golden rule. For the most part that happens on a regular basis but from time to time we remind posters to tone it down a little and show some respect for others.
I have 2 calvinists out of 5 in my Saturday morning mens discipleship meeting One is my son in law a pastor who is questioning some things now and the other one is seminary student who also lets me challenge his presuppositions and is able to understand the other side of the argument. It's a breath of fresh air.
civic
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Why are you afraid to say your age ?
I'm 64 and our Admin is in his 70's and another mod is the same age as me.
I could ask every member how old they are and they would answer.
Things that make you go hmmmm.
I could care less how old you are.
Then go hmmm.....all day long while you find the quote
civic
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Guess you won’t be included in the video chat. So you can just hide behind your keyboard
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