Why Christ is God, YHWH

[101G]

You are arguing over words.

personal opinion? thought so. and as for ARGUING? or do you know better ........ Reprove? which here is reprimanding.
John 3:20 "For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved."

John 16:7 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you." John 16:8 "And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:" John 16:9 "Of sin, because they believe not on me;"

Ephesians 5:10 "Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord." Ephesians 5:11 "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them."

Ephesians 5:13 "But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light." Ephesians 5:14 "Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light."

2 Timothy 4:1 "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;" 2 Timothy 4:2 "Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine." 2 Timothy 4:3 "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;" 2 Timothy 4:4 "And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." 2 Timothy 4:5 "But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry."

101G.

 

[101G]

@civic, @Fred, if both occupy the same throne, then Revelation 4:2 & 3 are in ERROR. "And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne." Revelation 4:3 "And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald."
in verse 2 it states, "a throne", indicating ONE throne and "One" here is Italicized, (in the KJV), meaning it's not in the scripture, but the term "one" who is sitting on the throne is correct, because verse 3 Justify verse 2 by saying "he" sat and not they sat. so one person sits on the one Throne in heaven, in verses 2 & 3, and the rest of the Chapter.

now knowing this if only one person, (in Heaven), is sitting on the, (one), throne, then by your definition...... God then must be polythetic, because the ONE who stand before the (same one throne), in verse 5 is the Lord Jesus who is God. either this is the same one person who sit on the throne and stand before it, or else your definition of polytheism must be applied here.

for if you say it is the Father who sits on the throne, ok, then, 101G will ask you, "Who gave the Father Power?". because the One who sits on the throne "RECIEVED POWER", Revelation 4:11 "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created." and if one say the Father is sitting, then book chapter, and verse as to who gave the Father Power?".

if one cannot supply book chapter and verse, then one by definition is in polytheism...... coffee anyone this .... evening?

the floor is all ..... 101G means .... "ALL' (as in many)..... yours. oooo YIKES!. good LUCK, because you all will need it.

101G.

GINOLJC, to all.
@Fred, so we can take your frown as a. frustration? or b. you cannot answer, because it exposes your 3 false gods? or .......c. the truth will make you free, and you love darkness? just asking.

see, it would have better if U have had said, or did nothing. ....... (smile)...... YIKES!

101G suggest you repent of your false 3 gods, and come out of darkness, and be healed. because these scriptures are not changing, or going away, nor will 101G just sweep his question under the rug. see, this and many questions like it will keep coming up. and just by frowning at the question, that will not solve the question. (that want work), a true and honest discussion is the only way. we suggest you try to get a legitimate answer to apply truthy to 101G's question. else U will have a permanent frown on your face from now on..... YIKES! the best thing to do is face the reality of your 3 false god belief is incorrect, but that's your choice.... (smile).

101G.

 

[101G]

@Fred, you just confirmed what the bible says, first a frown, now a Laugh? scripture, James 1:5 "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him." James 1:6 "But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed." James 1:7 "For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord." James 1:8 "A double minded man is unstable in all his ways."

and what is the result of a double minded man? let the bible answer, James 4:7 "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." James 4:8 "Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded."

good day,

101G.

 

[Fred]

@Fred, you just confirmed what the bible says, first a frown, now a Laugh? scripture, James 1:5 "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him." James 1:6 "But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed." James 1:7 "For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord." James 1:8 "A double minded man is unstable in all his ways."

and what is the result of a double minded man? let the bible answer, James 4:7 "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." James 4:8 "Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded."

good day,

101G.

I am willing to debate you one on one in order to demolish your Modalistic myth about God.
Let me know if you are willing as well and we can iron the details to see if this can take place.

https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/forums/one-on-one-debates.49/

 

[101G]

I am willing to debate you one on one in order to demolish your Modalistic myth about God.
Let me know if you are willing as well and we can iron the details to see if this can take place.

https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/forums/one-on-one-debates.49/

now, 101G just been asked the question, just you need to respond.

101G.

 

[Fred]

now, 101G just been asked the question, just you need to respond.

The above is a cop-out as well as an example of terrible grammar.
See 2 Timothy 3:7.

 

[101G]

Cop-out.
See 2 Timothy 3:7.

you, did you reply to my post?

101G.

 

[Fred]

you, did you reply to my post?

101G.

Yes, see post 46.
That is my reply.

 

[101G]

Yes, see post 46.
That is my reply.

so, you cannot tell us who sits on the throne in heaven and who stands before it. it's a simple question. ANSWER, the Lord Jesus in the ECHAD of his Amalgamation in the Glorification of his OWN Spirit. do you understand?

101G.

 

[101G]

so, you cannot tell us who sits on the throne in heaven and who stands before it. it's a simple question. ANSWER, the Lord Jesus in the ECHAD of his Amalgamation in the Glorification of his OWN Spirit. do you understand?

101G.

see, your grim tells a lot about U, you cannot answer with scripture. because you don't A. UNDERSTAND, nor B. KNOW.

so sit in darkness.

101G.

 

[Fred]

see, your grim

101G.

Try grin instead.

I'm not going to waste my time with a person with such terrible grammar - but even worse doctrine - who won't debate one on one because their false doctrine would be smashed to bits (2 Corinthians 10:5).

 

[101G]

Try grin instead.

I'm not going to waste my time with a person with such terrible grammar - but even worse doctrine - who won't debate one on one because their false doctrine would be smashed to bits (2 Corinthians 10:5).

101G already said he will debate you. 101G knows you ..... would be wasting your time in trying to debate me on Oneness, Diversified, or on your false trinity doctrine, for you will lose every time.

101G

 

[Fred]

101G already said he will debate you. 101G knows you ..... would be wasting your time in trying to debate me on Oneness, Diversified, or on your false trinity doctrine, for you will lose every time.

101G

Is that a yes or no from you?

 

[101G]

Is that a yes or no from you?

a resounding yes,

101G.

 

[Fred]

a resounding yes,

101G.

Since you have been mentioning my name in several posts in this thread (post 40, 42 and 43) in which I will not fully read (a waste of time) - then you can affirm whatever it is your belief about the nature of God is (and I will read all of it). With this agreed upon I will then contact the Moderator and get things going.
Agreed?

You can choose (and I will have to agree with you) what you want to be the title of the debate:
Jesus is the Father
or....something about your Oneness/Modalistic (or whatever you call it) view.

 

[101G]

Since you have been mentioning my name in several posts in this thread (post 40, 42 and 43) in which I will not fully read (a waste of time) - then you can affirm whatever it is your belief about the nature of God is (and I will read all of it). With this agreed upon I will then contact the Moderator and get things going.
Agreed?

in the Name of the Lord Jesus, thanks.

101G.

 

[Fred]

in the Name of the Lord Jesus, thanks.

101G.

Please choose a title and we can discuss if it is okay (see my previous post).
Please make it specific.

Unless I note otherwise, I will be using the NASB (1995) version of the Bible in this debate.

Need to leave for church now. Lord willing, I will respond to any comments later.

 

[101G]

Please choose a title and we can discuss if it is okay (see my previous post).
Please make it specific.

Unless I note otherwise, I will be using the NASB (1995) version of the Bible in this debate.

Need to leave for church now. Lord willing, I will respond to any comments later.

fine we can start with the "Godhead and your trinity"...... if that's ok with you.

101G.

 

[Fred]

fine we can start with the "Godhead and your trinity"...... if that's ok with you.

101G.

You are making the affirmation, so the title ought to reflect what you believe and intend to demonstrate.

The title will be "Jesus and the Father are the same Person (contra Trinitarianism)".

That is what you believe so that is what you will try to prove.

 

[101G]

You are making the affirmation, so the title ought to reflect what you believe and intend to demonstrate.

The title will be "Jesus and the Father are the same Person (contra Trinitarianism)".

That is what you believe so that is what you will try to prove.

Look whatever you want the title to be, make no difference to 101G. just put a subject on the Godhead...... ok, now quit talking and let's get to discussing.

101G.