Who is the creator

[charismaticlady]

It wasn’t Roman Gentiles who thought it was “gibberish”, it was some of the “Jews from every nation”.


Doug

The "devout" Jews heard their own language, and 3,000 of them were saved. A devout Jew would not be mocking. Psa. 1:1

Jerusalem had more than Jews in it. So who is left? Romans.

 

[101G]

What do you mean only one person "diversified"?

Equally Shared in Ordinal Designations of "TIME', "PLACE", "ORDER", and or "RANK", per scripture, Genesis 1:1 and Deuteronomy 6:4 just for starters. and N.T. scripture, John 1:1-4 and Philippians 2:6 also for starters. but the ENTIRE BIBLE support this doctrine of "Diversified Oneness". not just "Oneness", but "Diversified Oneness".

101G

 

[TibiasDad]

I already proved that present pronouns do not always mean us. The problem is your understanding of the context.

I’m not sure where you proved that, but the plural pronouns “we” (1st person plural) and “us” (3rd person plural) necessarily include the speaker.

Do you also believe that 1 John 1:9 is not to become a Christian, but to keep on sinning and keep on repenting over and over?

I John 1:5-10 is a summary statement of foundational principles of Christian belief about the human condition. It applies equally to all human beings, both believers and unbelievers. John’s audience were generally considered to be believers, some of whom had fallen into the error that a) it doesn’t matter what we do after we believe (vs 6-7), and b) that we don’t have a sin nature problem after we believe (vs 8) and c) if we claim that we have either not ever sinned, or that we have not or cannot sin after we have believed (vs10).

Verse nine demonstrates a) that to confess means to admit that we have actually sinned, thus we are capable of sinning even as believers, and that b) God’s cleansing power is not just to forgive our sins, releasing us from the penalty of sinning, but it will also cleanse our “unrighteousness” or the foundational aspect of sin from us. This is what Wesleyans call complete or entire sanctification. We hold that this is possible at any point in our Christian lives, not just at the point of death. Thus, it is both a continuous process and a crisis event.



Doug

 

[TibiasDad]

The "devout" Jews heard their own language, and 3,000 of them were saved. A devout Jew would not be mocking. Psa. 1:1

Jerusalem had more than Jews in it. So who is left? Romans.

Undevout Jews, such as those who were not saved that day; unless there were only 3000 there to begin with? The grammar doesn’t point to anyone else but the Jewish contingent. The language isn’t specific as to who was speaking, so it is not absolutely impossible that it could have been a non-Jew, but the grammar and Peter’s message is pointing exclusively at the Jewish contingent who were there.

 

[charismaticlady]

I’m not sure where you proved that, but the plural pronouns “we” (1st person plural) and “us” (3rd person plural) necessarily include the speaker.

I John 1:5-10 is a summary statement of foundational principles of Christian belief about the human condition. It applies equally to all human beings, both believers and unbelievers. John’s audience were generally considered to be believers, some of whom had fallen into the error that a) it doesn’t matter what we do after we believe (vs 6-7), and b) that we don’t have a sin nature problem after we believe (vs 8) and c) if we claim that we have either not ever sinned, or that we have not or cannot sin after we have believed (vs10).

Verse nine demonstrates a) that to confess means to admit that we have actually sinned, thus we are capable of sinning even as believers, and that b) God’s cleansing power is not just to forgive our sins, releasing us from the penalty of sinning, but it will also cleanse our “unrighteousness” or the foundational aspect of sin from us. This is what Wesleyans call complete or entire sanctification. We hold that this is possible at any point in our Christian lives, not just at the point of death. Thus, it is both a continuous process and a crisis event.



Doug

we and us are mankind. Some are saved. Some are not. And that is true of every church. Matthew 7:21-23

 

[charismaticlady]

The real heresy is sinless perfection

What is holiness? I'm not saying we are made holy on day one of our salvation. The only sins that are taken away on day one of our repentance are sins unto death making us righteous/sinless of lawless sins unto death. Then comes the long process towards perfection/holiness.

I don't teach sinless perfection, and don't know anyone who does. But to not even believe in Jesus taking away our sin is true heresy.

 

[charismaticlady]

Undevout Jews, such as those who were not saved that day; unless there were only 3000 there to begin with? The grammar doesn’t point to anyone else but the Jewish contingent. The language isn’t specific as to who was speaking, so it is not absolutely impossible that it could have been a non-Jew, but the grammar and Peter’s message is pointing exclusively at the Jewish contingent who were there.

It was the disciples: the apostles and the 120 who were told to wait in Jerusalem for the power of God. They were the ones speaking.

 

[charismaticlady]

It wasn’t Roman Gentiles who thought it was “gibberish”, it was some of the “Jews from every nation”.


Doug

There are two types of Jews. Devout Jews. And non-devout Jews. Sort of the same for Christians.

12 So they were all amazed and perplexed, saying to one another, “Whatever could this mean?”

13 Others mocking said, “They are full of new wine.”

The all are Jews. So who are the others? Animals? I believe, Gentiles.

 

[TibiasDad]

we and us are mankind. Some are saved. Some are not. And that is true of every church. Matthew 7:21-23

John’s message is directed at those presumed to be Christian believers. It is about, as I have said, foundational truths that apply to all people. However, these truths are directed specifically at believers who are believing errant beliefs as a correction to their thinking. The application of these truths are, however, universal.


Doug

 

[TibiasDad]

There are two types of Jews. Devout Jews. And non-devout Jews. Sort of the same for Christians.

12 So they were all amazed and perplexed, saying to one another, “Whatever could this mean?”

13 Others mocking said, “They are full of new wine.”

The all are Jews. So who are the others? Animals? I believe, Gentiles.

This is not a hill to die on, but there is no logical reason why those mocking could not have also been amazed. The word for “amazed” is existémi: To amaze, to astonish, to be beside oneself, to be out of one's mind
Original Word: ἐξίστημι
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: existémi
Pronunciation: ex-is'-tay-mee
Phonetic Spelling: (ex-is'-tay-mee)
KJV: amaze, be (make) astonished, be beside self (selves), bewitch, wonder
NASB: amazed, astonished, amazement, astonishing, astounded, beside ourselves, lost His senses
Word Origin: [from G1537 (ἐκ - among) and G2476 (ἵστημι - standing)]

1. to put (stand) out of wits, i.e. astound
2. (reflexively) become astounded, insane

So then, I think that one can be astounded at something and still try to explain it away as something else. We do that all the time when experiencing something unusual and seemingly unexplainable. We try to explain it with something to which we can relate.


Doug

 

[Keiw1]

I base everything I believe on scripture first, middle and last. I’ve never depended on the various councils opinions as my reason to believe, and my agreement with them is not a determining factor as to why I believe what I believe.

Titus 2:13 and 2Pet 1:1 cannot be more clear in Greek or English that Jesus Christ is both God and Savior! There is no controversy in these verses; no possible alternative translation of the Greek.

The only reason for the council’s to gather was because of the Arian heresy which you now employ. The teachings were clear and decisive up to Arius, his deviation left unchecked until 325 AD, when all but two of the 318 (or 314 according to some) Bishops in attendance voted against Arius’s proposal. (Some say that there were originally 17 bishops that supported Arius, but that is less than 10% of all the Bishops to side with Arius. In the end, 15 of the 17 changed their thinking.)


Doug

Catholicism mistranslated is what you are believing. Your translations are altered-The removal of Gods name is a huge atrocity against God and mankind. ALL using the altered translations as main bible are being mislead to destruction.=100% fact.

 

[Keiw1]

I thought you were Calvenist. That you are Tulip believing.....YET the very one who brought you that you deny... almost the same as you denying Jesus.....

Here is another one you wont read for fear of learning.... MGHMOYS

The claim that Jesus was “added” to Godhood at church councils is historically inaccurate and ignores pre-Nicene Christian writings and Scripture itself.

The Council of Nicaea (325 CE) did not invent the deity of Christ. It addressed a dispute already raging in the church—whether Jesus was of the same divine nature as the Father. The council clarified doctrine; it did not create it.
Long before Nicaea, Christians worshiped Jesus as divine: See the following 5 points as a mini example of what we know.

1. Philippians 2:6–11 (written ~AD 60): Jesus existed in the form of God and receives worship due to God alone.

2. John 1:1–3 (~AD 90): “The Word was God… all things were made through Him.”

3. Thomas calls Jesus “My Lord and my God” (John 20:28).

4. Pliny the Younger (Roman governor, ~AD 112) records Christians singing hymns to Christ as to a god.

5. Ignatius of Antioch (~AD 107), a disciple of John, repeatedly calls Jesus “our God.”

These sources predate Catholic councils by centuries.

As for the Holy Spirit, Scripture already presents Him as divine long before 381 CE:

Fact... Lying to the Spirit is lying to God (Acts 5:3–4)
Fact...The Spirit speaks, wills, teaches, and can be grieved—personal attributes, not impersonal force.


Citing 2 Thessalonians 2:3 against Catholicism is ironic, because Paul also warns against rejecting apostolic teaching (2 Thess 2:15). The earliest Christians—long before medieval Catholicism—already held these beliefs.


Disagreeing with the Trinity is one thing. Claiming it was “invented” in the 4th century contradicts both Scripture and documented history.

Its you being lied to. In Catholicisms own encyclopedia it states--The apostolic Fathers knew 0 of God as a trinity. They were there back then, The men twisting things into oblivion are saying something different.
In the 2nd century Tertullian eas considering the possibility of God being a trinity. Thus-Until Catholicism added Jesus and the holy spirit to a godhead, the God of Israel was still being served= a single being God=YHVH(Jehovah=the Father)
Your translations are altered as well.
The council of Nicea 325 ce Jesus was added to a godhead--no holy spirit was until 381 ce at the council of Constantinople= 100% fact.

 

[Keiw1]

Jesus never denied his deity

John 20:17, Rev 3:12 proves your reasoning is false.

 

[TibiasDad]

Catholicism mistranslated is what you are believing. Your translations are altered-The removal of Gods name is a huge atrocity against God and mankind. ALL using the altered translations as main bible are being mislead to destruction.=100% fact.

I translate for myself; I do not rely on any particular translation, but compare all with the Greek texts.

Not one of the of the 5800 parcels of the Greek NT have Yahweh in them. The common practice of quoting the OT in the NT was to use Kurios out of respect for the name. There is no notion that Kurios is not Yahweh; it just a different word to say it- again, out of respect and to avoid misusing the name of God. 100% fact!

Your rhetoric is misleading and 100% false! You are merely repeating verbatim what the Watchtower says without thinking for yourself.


Doug

 

[charismaticlady]

This is not a hill to die on, but there is no logical reason why those mocking could not have also been amazed. The word for “amazed” is existémi: To amaze, to astonish, to be beside oneself, to be out of one's mind
Original Word: ἐξίστημι
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: existémi
Pronunciation: ex-is'-tay-mee
Phonetic Spelling: (ex-is'-tay-mee)
KJV: amaze, be (make) astonished, be beside self (selves), bewitch, wonder
NASB: amazed, astonished, amazement, astonishing, astounded, beside ourselves, lost His senses
Word Origin: [from G1537 (ἐκ - among) and G2476 (ἵστημι - standing)]

1. to put (stand) out of wits, i.e. astound
2. (reflexively) become astounded, insane

So then, I think that one can be astounded at something and still try to explain it away as something else. We do that all the time when experiencing something unusual and seemingly unexplainable. We try to explain it with something to which we can relate.


Doug

They HEARD only gibberish. If they understood the languages they would never had said they were drunk. The devout Jews HEARD their own languages.

Do you believe the devout Jews understood the tongues naturally, or supernaturally? That is the superior question if you believe God contradicts His Own Word or not. 1 Corinthians 14:2 is the rule, not a story that has been understood in two different ways. I understand it perfectly in sync with 1 Corinthians 14, it had to be supernaturally. So again, do you believe they did understand naturally or it had to be through a gift of the Spirit.

 

[TibiasDad]

They HEARD only gibberish. If they understood the languages they would never had said they were drunk. The devout Jews HEARD their own languages.

There is nothing that says they heard “gibberish”. Not every Jew that was there was capable of understanding the multitude languages being spoken by the 120. What amazed and perplexed them was that these Galileans were speaking in their native languages, apparently quite fluently. But not everyone would be hearing a language they could comprehend.

Again, when faced with a circumstance that is puzzling to us, we try to make sense of it by using a familiar concept that we have experienced, like someone being intoxicated and slurring their words which makes them hard to understand. ‘These people must be drunk” was a reasonable solution for what they were experiencing; a group of people speaking in an unfamiliar and unrecognizable way. I hear people speaking in their native tongue all the time in shopping malls and grocery stores. I don’t understand a single word coming out of their mouths. I don’t think they are speaking “gibberish”, but I certainly don’t understand them.

Moreover, the Pharisee and Saducee leaders would be quite mocking in their reactions to the disciples speaking in a language of which they shouldn’t have knowledge. Accusations that these Jesus followers were drunk would not be a far fetched idea.


Doug

 

[TibiasDad]

So again, do you believe they did understand naturally or it had to be through a gift of the Spirit.

The hearers heard their languages naturally; the 120 speaking in these languages was supernatural and by means of the Spirit.


Doug

 

[charismaticlady]

The hearers heard their languages naturally; the 120 speaking in these languages was supernatural and by means of the Spirit.


Doug

Naturally? Is that what 1 Corinthians 14:2 describes it? Doug, you are believing a contradiction that God would never do. Why do you not even consider the only way they could understand supernatural tongues scripturally, and that is interpretation of tongues, a supernatural understanding of speaking in tongues?

 

[Jim]

Equally Shared in Ordinal Designations of "TIME', "PLACE", "ORDER", and or "RANK", per scripture, Genesis 1:1 and Deuteronomy 6:4 just for starters. and N.T. scripture, John 1:1-4 and Philippians 2:6 also for starters. but the ENTIRE BIBLE support this doctrine of "Diversified Oneness". not just "Oneness", but "Diversified Oneness".

101G

I am still not certain what you intend by the use of that word. Are you suggesting that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not really three separate divine beings. Is your view really a monotheistic view of three only in functional relationship with the creation?

 

[FreeInChrist]

Catholicism mistranslated is what you are believing. Your translations are altered-The removal of Gods name is a huge atrocity against God and mankind. ALL using the altered translations as main bible are being mislead to destruction.=100% fact.

Titus 2:13 NWT from the JW.org link

13  while we wait for the happy hope and glorious manifestation of the great God and of our Savior, Jesus Christ,

2 Peter 1:1 NWT from the JW.org link

1 Simon Peter, a slave and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have acquired a faith as precious as ours* through the righteousness of our God and the Savior Jesus Christ:

Put all the spin on this you want but dont bloviate or blather...

Titus 2:13 here says..... waiting for the manifestation ( singular) of the great God and our Savior (whose name is ) Jesus Christ.

2 Peter 1:1 here says through the righteousness ((indicating singular, else it would be worded differently) here says..... of our God and the Savior (whose name is ) Jesus Christ.
HERE, IN BOTH OF THESE VERSES THAT YOU SAY COME FROM THE CATHOLICS THE JWs ARE SAYING JESUS IS GOD.

Look at all the following from the Catholic translations and the Aramaic translations and tell us all why the above is any different... they all say the same thing with maybe a minor jot or tittle adjustment that does not vary anyone's understanding........
Here are.... CATHOLIC AND ARAMAIC TRANSLAATIONS FOR TITUS 2:13

New International Version
while we wait for the blessed hope—the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,

New Living Translation
while we look forward with hope to that wonderful day when the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, will be revealed.

English Standard Version
waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Berean Standard Bible
as we await the blessed hope and glorious appearance of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Berean Literal Bible
awaiting the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,

King James Bible
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

New King James Version
looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

New American Standard Bible
looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,

NASB 1995
looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,

NASB 1977
looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus;

Legacy Standard Bible
looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,

Amplified Bible
awaiting and confidently expecting the [fulfillment of our] blessed hope and the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,

Christian Standard Bible
while we wait for the blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
while we wait for the blessed hope and appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.

American Standard Version
looking for the blessed hope and appearing of the glory of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Contemporary English Version
We are filled with hope, as we wait for the glorious return of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.

English Revised Version
looking for the blessed hope and appearing of the glory of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ;

GOD'S WORD® Translation
At the same time we can expect what we hope for-the appearance of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.

Good News Translation
as we wait for the blessed Day we hope for, when the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ will appear.

International Standard Version
as we wait for the blessed hope and glorious appearance of our great God and Savior, Jesus the Messiah.

NET Bible
as we wait for the happy fulfillment of our hope in the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.

New Heart English Bible
looking for the blessed hope and appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ;

Webster's Bible Translation
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God, and our Savior Jesus Christ;

Weymouth New Testament
in expectation of the fulfilment of our blessed hope--the Appearing in glory of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ;
Majority Text Translations
Majority Standard Bible
as we await the blessed hope and glorious appearance of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.

World English Bible
looking for the blessed hope and appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,
Literal Translations
Literal Standard Version
waiting for the blessed hope and appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Berean Literal Bible
awaiting the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,

Young's Literal Translation
waiting for the blessed hope and manifestation of the glory of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ,

Smith's Literal Translation
Expecting the blessed hope, and appearance of the glory of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
Looking for the blessed hope and coming of the glory of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ,

Catholic Public Domain Version
looking forward to the blessed hope and the advent of the glory of the great God and of our Savior Jesus Christ.

New American Bible
as we await the blessed hope, the appearance of the glory of the great God and of our savior Jesus Christ,

New Revised Standard Version
while we wait for the blessed hope and the manifestation of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Translations from Aramaic
Lamsa Bible
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
While we look for the blessed hope and the revelation of the glory of The Great God and Our Lifegiver, Yeshua The Messiah,
NT Translations
Anderson New Testament
looking for the blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Godbey New Testament
looking for the blessed hope even the appearing of the glory of our great God and our Saviour Christ Jesus;

Haweis New Testament
expecting the blessed hope, and glorious appearing of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ;

Mace New Testament
in expectation of that desirable happiness, the glorious appearance of the supreme God, and of our saviour Jesus Christ,

Weymouth New Testament
in expectation of the fulfilment of our blessed hope--the Appearing in glory of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ;

Worrell New Testament
looking for the blissful hope and appearing of the glory of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ;

Worsley New Testament
looking for the blessed hope, and glorious appearance of the great God, and our Saviour, Jesus Christ:


AND LOOK AT THESE CATHOLIC AND ARAMAIC TRANSLATIONS FOR 2 PETER 1:1

New International Version
Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:

New Living Translation
This letter is from Simon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ. I am writing to you who share the same precious faith we have. This faith was given to you because of the justice and fairness of Jesus Christ, our God and Savior.

English Standard Version
Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

Berean Standard Bible
Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:

Berean Literal Bible
Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those having obtained a faith equally precious with ours, through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

King James Bible
Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

New King James Version
Simon Peter, a bondservant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

New American Standard Bible
Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ:

NASB 1995
Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ:

NASB 1977
Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ:

Legacy Standard Bible
Simeon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have received the same kind of faith as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ:

Amplified Bible
Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle (special messenger, personally chosen representative) of Jesus Christ, To those who have received and possess [by God’s will] a precious faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ:

Christian Standard Bible
Simeon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ: To those who have received a faith equal to ours through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Simeon Peter, a slave and an apostle of Jesus Christ: To those who have obtained a faith of equal privilege with ours through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.

American Standard Version
Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained a like precious faith with us in the righteousness of our God and the Saviour Jesus Christ:

Contemporary English Version
From Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ. To everyone who shares with us in the privilege of believing that our God and Savior Jesus Christ will do what is just and fair.

English Revised Version
Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained a like precious faith with us in the righteousness of our God and Saviour Jesus Christ:

GOD'S WORD® Translation
From Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ. To those who have obtained a faith that is as valuable as ours, a faith based on the approval that comes from our God and Savior, Jesus Christ.

Good News Translation
From Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ--To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have been given a faith as precious as ours:

International Standard Version
From: Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus, the Messiah. To: Those who have received faith that is as valuable as ours through the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus the Messiah.

NET Bible
From Simeon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ, have been granted a faith just as precious as ours.

New Heart English Bible
Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained a like precious faith with us in the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ:

Webster's Bible Translation
Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Savior Jesus Christ:

Weymouth New Testament
Simon Peter, a bondservant and Apostle of Jesus Christ: To those to whom there has been allotted the same precious faith as that which is ours through the righteousness of our God and of our Saviour Jesus Christ.
Majority Text Translations
Majority Standard Bible
Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:

World English Bible
Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained a like precious faith with us in the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ:
Literal Translations
Literal Standard Version
Simeon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who obtained an equally precious faith with us in the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

Berean Literal Bible
Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those having obtained a faith equally precious with ours, through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

Young's Literal Translation
Simeon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who did obtain a like precious faith with us in the righteousness of our God and Saviour Jesus Christ:

Smith's Literal Translation
Simon Peter, servant and sent of Jesus Christ, to them having received by inheritance equally honoured faith with us in the justice of our God and Saviour Jesus Christ:
Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
Simon Peter, servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained equal faith with us in the justice of our God and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Catholic Public Domain Version
Simon Peter, servant and Apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have been allotted an equal faith with us in the justice of our God and in our Savior Jesus Christ.

New American Bible
Symeon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have received a faith of equal value to ours through the righteousness of our God and savior Jesus Christ:

New Revised Standard Version
Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have received a faith as precious as ours through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:
Translations from Aramaic
Lamsa Bible
SIMON Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who through the righteousness of our LORD and Saviour Jesus Christ have been made equal with us in the precious faith;

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Shimeon Petraus, a Servant and an Apostle of Yeshua The Messiah to those who, equal in honor with us, were worthy for the faith by the righteousness of Our Lord and Our Savior Yeshua The Messiah.
NT Translations
Anderson New Testament
SIMON PETER, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained faith, equally as precious as our own, in the plan of justification revealed by our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

Godbey New Testament
Simon Peter, the servant of God and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those receiving like precious faith with us in the righteousness of our God and our Saviour Jesus Christ.

Haweis New Testament
SIMON Peter, the servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained with us the same precious faith by the righteousness of our God and Saviour Jesus Christ:

Mace New Testament
Simon Peter the servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who equally share with us in the advantages of faith, thro' the veracity of our God, and of Jesus Christ.

Weymouth New Testament
Simon Peter, a bondservant and Apostle of Jesus Christ: To those to whom there has been allotted the same precious faith as that which is ours through the righteousness of our God and of our Saviour Jesus Christ.

Worrell New Testament
Simon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who obtained an equally precious faith with us, in the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

Worsley New Testament
Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us, in the righteousness of our God, and of our saviour Jesus Christ:

AND WHILE i AM CERTAIN YOU NEVER READ ONE OF THE ABOVE THEREFORE WILL NOT BE READING THIS.... FOR YOUR BELIEFS ON JESUS, THE WAY THAT YOU DO IT CERTAINLY APPEARS AS IF YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT AND PREACHED TO BY AN ANTICHRIST WITH AN AGENDA I DARE NOT SUGGEST.

MGHMOYS