What is the New Covenant?

[jeremiah1five]

Brother, when you understand that the law was added to the Abrahamic Covenant and that the Abrahamic Covenant was between Christ (before He became flesh) and Abraham, then you will understand that the same laws and commandments that Abraham obeyed are the same laws and commandments that are written on our heart and mind.

As the New Covenant in Jeremiah 31:31-34 states, which is a New Covenant between God and the House of Israel and the House of Judah, the imparting of God's Law - who is the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL (Joel) - there are no Gentiles named or mentioned as part of the New Covenant. The Law of Moses is that Law which God puts in the inward parts of the Hebrew people as prophesied by Joel and expressed through Jeremiah's prophecy of a New Covenant. You seem to want to add Gentiles into the New Covenant, but Jeremiah says nothing about Gentiles in his prophecy.

You stretch the Mosaic Covenant to include Abraham but there is no evidence Abraham was under the Law as the Mosaic Laws came centuries later. Abraham had his own covenant promises from God, and his covenant is entirely different than the Mosaic Covenant - which included animal sacrifices for the children of Israel to perform daily, monthly, and yearly. You are seriously confused about God's covenants with Abraham and with his seed, the children of Israel.

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
That I will make a new covenant
With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers
In the day that I took them by the hand
To bring them out of the land of Egypt;
Which my covenant they brake,
Although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
And write it in their hearts;
And will be their God,
And they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying,
Know the LORD:
For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Je 31:31–34.

The prophecy clearly states the New Covenant is between God and the House of Israel - NOT Gentiles.

because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws.
Genesis 26:5

5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
Genesis 26:5.

This statement says nothing about the Mosaic Covenant, which Scripture says came 400-430 years after the Hebrew people were brought into bondage by Egypt.

5 And he gave him none inheritance in it, no, not so much as to set his foot on: yet he promised that he would give it to him for a possession, and to his seed after him, when as yet he had no child.
6 And God spake on this wise, That his seed should sojourn in a strange land; and that they should bring them into bondage, and entreat them evil four hundred years. Acts 7:5–6.

Genesis 26:5-6 means they refer to the sum total of all God's revealed will and specific commands given to Abraham up to that point. This includes:

Specific, Extraordinary Commands (The "Charge" and "Voice"): These are the unique, direct instructions Abraham received from God throughout his life, which he obeyed with faith.

Leaving his home: "Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee" (Genesis 12:1).
The institution of Circumcision: The covenant sign for him and his male descendants (Genesis 17:9-14).
The ultimate test: The command to offer his son Isaac as a sacrifice (Genesis 22:1-3), which is often seen as the peak of his obedience mentioned in this context (see Genesis 22:18).
Other direct callings and directions from God to move or act (e.g., Genesis 12:7, 13:14, 15:1).

That is the first time I have ever heard anyone say Abraham was under the Mosaic Covenant Laws. This is completely unfounded.

Abraham obeyed His laws and commandments because he obeyed His voice to “walk before Me and be blameless”.
Walk before Me… walk with Me in My Presence… Walk in the Spirit and you will not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
Same LORD.

Joel prophesied the giving of God's Spirit hundreds of years later and no man ever had the Holy Spirit dwelling in them. Jesus says so:

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. John 14:16–17.

Pay attention to the words here. "Shall" is future tense. Abraham did not have the Holy Spirit dwelling in him.
No man did. Both Joel and Ezekiel (ca. 700s BC) speak of a future time when God would give His Spirit to men. They both prophesied of a future time when this would be. God's Presence was manifest after Abraham about 1500 years after later and this was only through a cloud of smoke by day and a pillar of fire by night. Without the shedding of blood (Christ's atonement) the Spirit could not inhabit men until atonement was made.

 

[brightfame52]

As the New Covenant in Jeremiah 31:31-34 states, which is a New Covenant between God and the House of Israel and the House of Judah, the imparting of God's Law - who is the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL (Joel) - there are no Gentiles named or mentioned as part of the New Covenant.

Because it was a mystery, Gentiles are included as recipients of the New Covenant, that is why Jesus sent the Gospel to them also. Ephesians 3

 

[jeremiah1five]

Because it was a mystery, Gentiles are included as recipients of the New Covenant, that is why Jesus sent the Gospel to them also. Ephesians 3

The problem that exists in your understanding of the Law and the Prophets (the Hebrew Scripture - Psalms included) is that you break with Scripture and violate what was written by your interpretation of "Gentiles" as being non-Hebrew Gentiles being included in the Abrahamic, Mosaic, and New Covenants when these writings and prophecies of the LORD'S prophets say NOTHING about non-Hebrew Gentiles ever being included in these covenants described in Scripture. The New Covenant most of all clearly states the parties in covenant with God as being the House of Israel and the House of Judah:

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
That I will make a new covenant
With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers
In the day that I took them by the hand
To bring them out of the land of Egypt;
Which my covenant they brake,
Although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
fI will put my law in their inward parts,
And write it in their hearts;
And will be their God,
And they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying,
Know the LORD:
For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jeremiah 31:31–34.

There is NO MENTION of non-Hebrew Gentiles in the New Covenant prophesied by Jeremiah that we now know is founded on the body and blood of the lamb of God, the Lord Jesus Christ, Israel's Redeemer.

 

[brightfame52]

The problem that exists in your understanding of the Law and the Prophets (the Hebrew Scripture - Psalms included) is that you break with Scripture and violate what was written by your interpretation of "Gentiles" as being non-Hebrew Gentiles being included in the Abrahamic, Mosaic, and New Covenants when these writings and prophecies of the LORD'S prophets say NOTHING about non-Hebrew Gentiles ever being included in these covenants described in Scripture. The New Covenant most of all clearly states the parties in covenant with God as being the House of Israel and the House of Judah:

The New Covenant promises to Israel includes Gentiles, that was the Mystery Eph 3

 

[jeremiah1five]

The New Covenant promises to Israel includes Gentiles, that was the Mystery Eph 3

You can interpret Ephesians any way you want but Jeremiah's prophecy does not include Gentiles, and you have to break with Scripture and violate the Word of God in order to add them after the fact and without Biblical support.

Any interpretation in and of the New Testament that does not have Old Testament precedent and support should be rejected as false teaching. And that's what you have: False teaching that adds to the Bible things that are unsupported by Scripture.

Jeremiah's New Covenant prophecy found in 31:31-34 does not mention or include Gentiles. There is no "mystery" in his prophecy as everything he said is clear and above-board and easily understood by those who receive the Word of God as written without having to add things and ideas that are not there.

 

[brightfame52]

You can interpret Ephesians any way you want but Jeremiah's prophecy does not include Gentiles,

Yes it does Eph 3:3-6


3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

 

[jeremiah1five]

Yes it does Eph 3:3-6


3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

I am talking about the original prophecy of a New Covenant prophesied by Jeremiah in 31:31-34, NOT a New Covenant as quoted by Saul of Jeremiah.

The "Gentiles" mentioned by Saul refer to the mixed-race Jews who grew up as Gentiles in Gentile lands heavily influenced by Greek culture and language. These Jews who lived outside Israel since the Assyrian and Babylonian Conquests of the ten northern kingdom tribes, and the two southern kingdom tribes, respectively, went into exile and lived thereafter in Gentile lands for 29-35 generations before Christ's birth. These Jews were assimilated into Greek culture for over 35 generations. It is very difficult if not impossible for anyone who is a strict Jew to have children and these children having more children for 35 generations to maintain their Hebrew heritage. But God made sure that these Samaritans and other mixed-race Jews will get to glory. It's by virtue of being a seed and descendant of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And since none of the three Hebrew covenants do not include Gentiles, the family line of Abraham is secured. Do go and challenge the Lord and violate His Word to NOT give that which is holy to dogs nor cast your pearls to swine. God doesn't do this and under His direct instruction in our lives as saved individuals, neither do we. At least, the obedient ones don't.

 

[brightfame52]

am talking about the original prophecy of a New Covenant prophesied by Jeremiah in 31:31-34, NOT a New Covenant as quoted by Saul of Jeremiah.

Yes the original promise in Jeremiah 31 is a Gospel Promise and it includes Gentiles, it was a Mystery Eph 3

 

[jeremiah1five]

Yes the original promise in Jeremiah 31 is a Gospel Promise and it includes Gentiles, it was a Mystery Eph 3

Jeremiah says nothing about Gentiles in his prophecy in chapter 31:31-34.

So, if Jeremiah says nothing at all about Gentiles in this prophecy of a New Covenant between God and the Houses of both Israel and Judah, then either Saul is incorrect and lying by adding to the Bible or you are incorrect in your interpretation of his statements.

It is YOU,

 

[brightfame52]

Jeremiah says nothing about Gentiles in his prophecy in chapter 31:31-34.

Again it was a mystery Eph 3

 

[jeremiah1five]

Again it was a mystery Eph 3

Jeremiah's prophecy of a New Covenant was no mystery to the Jews. Jeremiah's New Covenant prophecy was not a mystery in any sense of the word for the New Covenant he prophesied contained no mystery at all but was open to the Jews and the seed of Abraham. It is your interpretation of the New Covenant that is in error for your claim that Ephesians refers to the New Covenant and it doesn't. For the New Covenant prophesied by Jeremiah says nothing about Gentiles being included in any of the Hebrew covenants at all. It is your interpretation of the EWphesian letter that is in error, not the New Covenant.

To claim non-Hebrew Gentiles who are the seed of Ham and Japheth as being included in the New Covenant would mean that Jesus sinned against God to "now" include Gentiles as among the Jews a saved people for the Law says the no non-Hebrew Gentile is included in any of the three Hebrew covenants and to claim that "now" Gentiles are included would require Jesus to have broken the Law of Moses itself for the Law teaches that ONLY Abraham's seed are included in their covenants with God. That's why Scripture calls God the God of Abraham, NOT of Tom, Dick, and Harry. It would mean that Jesus lied and His coming was also to include Gentiles with Israel as a saved people for never was any of the animals sacrificed under the Law was also to atone the sins of Gentile people. It doesn't exist. You are adding to the Bible things not contained in its pages. Gentiles are the enemy of God and on the last day He will destroy from the face of the earth all things that offend and Gentiles do offend God.

15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 1 John 2:15–16.

Gentiles are enemy to God AND Israel:

2 For I will gather all [Gentile] nations against Jerusalem to battle;
And the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and ethe women ravished;
And half of the city shall go forth into captivity,
And the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zechariah 14:2.

What Zechariah prophesies about what the Gentile nations of the non-Hebrew world will be atrocities far worse than what Nazi Germany and a little corporal named Adolfus Hitler.
So, no, Gentiles are NOT included with the Jews in their covenants.

 

[brightfame52]

Jeremiah's prophecy of a New Covenant was no mystery to the Jews.

That Gentiles were included as fellow heirs was a mystery Eph 3 4-6

4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

5 ;Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

6 ;That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

Eph 3:6That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: The Jews of ancient Israel had looked at the Gentiles and saw them unclean as dogs and would never had believed that they would become part of God’s salvation plan. In fact it would be the Gentiles that would take the gospel to the ends of the earth through missions. The Jews had thought that only they were privy to the blessings and that they were God’s only people on earth. The problem is that they still think that way and have not partaken in any evangelism to the world because they themselves remain in darkness through their present hostility to the Lord Jesus Christ. The chosen Gentiles in Christ would be fellow heirs or co-heirs with Christ in salvation and the blessings. {16} The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: {17} And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. (Romans 8:16-17) Notice Paul uses the term “we” three times in these two verses which is a pronoun denoting the fact that he is speaking to only a select group namely the elect of God. The terms “fellowheirs, same body, partakers” in this verse all carry the meaning of a joint or common inheritance between two bodies of people. This means that both Gentiles and Jews stand on the same ground. Here is the essence of the revealed mystery that God’s elect will be from all races and countries. His covenant is the covenant of grace in which all the chosen believers from around the world and down through the ages will be partakers of. No one will be saved outside of the covenant of grace. https://www.scionofzion.com/ephesians3_1-6.htm

 

[jeremiah1five]

Because it was a mystery, Gentiles are included as recipients of the New Covenant, that is why Jesus sent the Gospel to them also. Ephesians 3

That Gentiles were included as fellow heirs was a mystery Eph 3 4-6 4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5 ;Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 6 ;That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

That Gentiles were included as fellow heirs was a mystery Eph 3 4-6 4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5 ;Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 6 ;That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: