What is the Gospel

[DavidTree]

Love jigging for the Whitefish.

If you are near NJ, you are welcome to join me.

 

[Studyman]

If you are near NJ, you are welcome to join me.

Michigan. If I ever get up that way, I’ll let you know. Good luck.

 

[civic]

Michigan. If I ever get up that way, I’ll let you know. Good luck.

@DavidTree lets plan a fishing trip

We could plan a Berean fishing trip for the fishermen and a golf trip for the golfers

 

[Studyman]

@DavidTree lets plan a fishing trip

We could plan a Berean fishing trip for the fishermen and a golf trip for the golfers

I could not get into golf. I am always looking for bass beds in the water hazards.

 

[civic]

I could not get into golf. I am always looking for bass beds in the water hazards.

Same with my son he fishes lots of ponds on golf courses lol

Michigan has some great steelhead fishing. I had a buddy in the SF Bay Area that I use to fight with all the time who came from Michigan. He showed me some pics of the steelhead he use to catch growing up.

 

[Studyman]

Same with my son he fishes lots of ponds on golf courses lol

Michigan has some great steelhead fishing. I had a buddy in the SF Bay Area that I use to fight with all the time who came from Michigan. He showed me some pics of the steelhead he use to catch growing up.

We have a great steelhead run near my home, as well as a great Salmon run.

My bride likes perch and bluegill and Crappie more than trout, so I spend more fishing time chasing them. Not as fun to fight, but better to eat.

 

[civic]

We have a great steelhead run near my home, as well as a great Salmon run.

My bride likes perch and bluegill and Crappie more than trout, so I spend more fishing time chasing them. Not as fun to fight, but better to eat.

Dang I have to make a trip there lol and I know there are some great golf courses too

 

[Runningman]

This is incorrect-Yeshua does not call out for His own salvation.

While Hebrews 5:7 shows that Jesus, in His humanity, expressed deep dependence on the Father, it does not imply that Jesus needed "salvation" in the same way humanity does. Rather, His prayers and cries demonstrate His role as the sympathetic High Priest (Hebrews 4:15) who fully entered into human suffering and dependence on God, yet without sin.

1. Jesus' Relationship to Death and Salvation
The passage does not indicate that Jesus required "salvation" from death as a sinner does but highlights that, through His reverent submission, He was heard by the Father. This signifies that, though He faced death, His ultimate trust was in God's will. As John 10:18 records, Jesus stated, "No one takes it [my life] from me, but I lay it down of my own accord," revealing that His death was a voluntary act of redemption for others, not for His own salvation.

2. The Purpose of Jesus' Petition
Hebrews 5:7’s "prayers and petitions" refer to Jesus’ earnest seeking of the Father's strength to accomplish the path set before Him, ultimately leading to His death on the Cross. This verse reflects His agony in Gethsemane (Matthew 26:39-42) where He submitted to the Father’s will, praying, “if it is possible, let this cup pass from me; yet not as I will, but as you will.” His prayers were heard, and though He faced physical death, God raised Him from the dead, demonstrating His victory over death for all who believe (Romans 6:9-10).

3. Jesus as Savior, Not as One in Need of Salvation
Scripture consistently presents Jesus as the source of salvation, not as one in need of saving. John 14:6 affirms that Jesus is "the way, the truth, and the life," through whom salvation is offered to humanity. Hebrews 5:9 further underscores this by describing Jesus as "the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him." His unique role as the Savior who perfectly fulfilled God's will is evidenced by His sinless life, sacrificial death, and resurrection.

Conclusion
Therefore, Hebrews 5:7 portrays Jesus’ humanity and obedience but does not imply a need for salvation. Rather, it emphasizes that He is the High Priest who, by entering into human suffering, accomplished salvation for others through His own sacrifice.


J.

Depsite Jesus calling out for salvation from death, he was not saved from a physical death, but rather saved from death in hades. In other words, Jesus needed to be resurrected from a state in which he was completely dead. Since Jesus was not able to resurrect himself, he needed to appeal to God for salvation. Hebrews 5:7 is clear that God heard Jesus on a strictly conditional basis rather than one of entitlement. God heard Jesus because Jesus has reverence for God. This gives the Christian a blueprint for how they should model their prayers to the Father.

Hebrews 5 (NIV)​

7During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.​

 

[DavidTree]

@DavidTree lets plan a fishing trip

We could plan a Berean fishing trip for the fishermen and a golf trip for the golfers

Just checked in now.

ABSOLUTELY

FELLOWSHIP/WORSHIP/PRAISE, Fishing/Golf and also Fishing for souls ALL-ONE-TRIP

Let's PRAY and ask the LORD to direct our steps on this venture.