What is the Gospel

Studyman said:
I could not get into golf. I am always looking for bass beds in the water hazards.
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Same with my son he fishes lots of ponds on golf courses lol

Michigan has some great steelhead fishing. I had a buddy in the SF Bay Area that I use to fight with all the time who came from Michigan. He showed me some pics of the steelhead he use to catch growing up.
 
civic said:
Same with my son he fishes lots of ponds on golf courses lol

Michigan has some great steelhead fishing. I had a buddy in the SF Bay Area that I use to fight with all the time who came from Michigan. He showed me some pics of the steelhead he use to catch growing up.
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We have a great steelhead run near my home, as well as a great Salmon run.

My bride likes perch and bluegill and Crappie more than trout, so I spend more fishing time chasing them. Not as fun to fight, but better to eat.
 
Studyman said:
We have a great steelhead run near my home, as well as a great Salmon run.

My bride likes perch and bluegill and Crappie more than trout, so I spend more fishing time chasing them. Not as fun to fight, but better to eat.
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Dang I have to make a trip there lol and I know there are some great golf courses too :)
 
Johann said:
This is incorrect-Yeshua does not call out for His own salvation.

While Hebrews 5:7 shows that Jesus, in His humanity, expressed deep dependence on the Father, it does not imply that Jesus needed "salvation" in the same way humanity does. Rather, His prayers and cries demonstrate His role as the sympathetic High Priest (Hebrews 4:15) who fully entered into human suffering and dependence on God, yet without sin.

1. Jesus' Relationship to Death and Salvation
The passage does not indicate that Jesus required "salvation" from death as a sinner does but highlights that, through His reverent submission, He was heard by the Father. This signifies that, though He faced death, His ultimate trust was in God's will. As John 10:18 records, Jesus stated, "No one takes it [my life] from me, but I lay it down of my own accord," revealing that His death was a voluntary act of redemption for others, not for His own salvation.

2. The Purpose of Jesus' Petition
Hebrews 5:7’s "prayers and petitions" refer to Jesus’ earnest seeking of the Father's strength to accomplish the path set before Him, ultimately leading to His death on the Cross. This verse reflects His agony in Gethsemane (Matthew 26:39-42) where He submitted to the Father’s will, praying, “if it is possible, let this cup pass from me; yet not as I will, but as you will.” His prayers were heard, and though He faced physical death, God raised Him from the dead, demonstrating His victory over death for all who believe (Romans 6:9-10).

3. Jesus as Savior, Not as One in Need of Salvation
Scripture consistently presents Jesus as the source of salvation, not as one in need of saving. John 14:6 affirms that Jesus is "the way, the truth, and the life," through whom salvation is offered to humanity. Hebrews 5:9 further underscores this by describing Jesus as "the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him." His unique role as the Savior who perfectly fulfilled God's will is evidenced by His sinless life, sacrificial death, and resurrection.

Conclusion
Therefore, Hebrews 5:7 portrays Jesus’ humanity and obedience but does not imply a need for salvation. Rather, it emphasizes that He is the High Priest who, by entering into human suffering, accomplished salvation for others through His own sacrifice.


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Depsite Jesus calling out for salvation from death, he was not saved from a physical death, but rather saved from death in hades. In other words, Jesus needed to be resurrected from a state in which he was completely dead. Since Jesus was not able to resurrect himself, he needed to appeal to God for salvation. Hebrews 5:7 is clear that God heard Jesus on a strictly conditional basis rather than one of entitlement. God heard Jesus because Jesus has reverence for God. This gives the Christian a blueprint for how they should model their prayers to the Father.

Hebrews 5 (NIV)​
7During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.​
 
Richard said:
I think it's biblical.

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No doubt about it. When Fishing for Men what must have the gospel. I like the title of this thread "What is the gospel?" I think we all need to clear answer to that question.

12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. 13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Romans 10:12-13

No one has ever been saved outside of the gospel, for “it is the power of God for salvation to all who believe” (Rom. 1:16-17). The gospel calls all to repent and trust in the Lord for salvation, and be forgiven and credited with righteousness so as to receive the gift of eternal life.

There has always been one gospel and it is the eternal gospel. Whoever repents and trusts in the Lord for their salvation and calls upon His name in faith is forgiven and credited with righteousness, being set apart in the Son. They are set apart, being in Christ, based on His work on the cross, who came down to earth as a man and atoned for the sins of all people.
 
civic said:
Gospel literally means " good news ". What is the good news ?

the Greek word is where we get our English word from evangelism

euaggelion: good news
Original Word: εὐαγγέλιον, ου, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: euaggelion
Phonetic Spelling: (yoo-ang-ghel'-ee-on)
Definition: good news
Usage: the good news of the coming of the Messiah, the gospel; the gen. after it expresses sometimes the giver (God), sometimes the subject (the Messiah, etc.), sometimes the human transmitter (an apostle).

There is One God
There is One Lord
There is One Sovereign
There is One Master
There is One Faith
There is One Baptism
There is One Jesus
There is only One way to God
There is One Savior

And there is One Gospel

Galatians 1:6
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

So since there is only One God, One Savior, One way to God through Christ, One faith, One baptism and One Gospel- there is only one way to be saved.

Paul defines that Gospel by which we are saved below:

1 Corinthians 15:1-19
Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain.

3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. 6 After that He appeared to more than five hundred brethren at one time, most of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep; 7 then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles; 8 and last of all, as to one untimely born, He appeared to me also. 9 For I am the least of the apostles, and not fit to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me did not prove vain; but I labored even more than all of them, yet not I, but the grace of God with me. 11 Whether then it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed.

12 Now if Christ is preached, that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, not even Christ has been raised; 14 and if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain. 15 Moreover we are even found to be false witnesses of God, because we testified against God that He raised Christ, whom He did not raise, if in fact the dead are not raised. 16 For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised; 17 and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins. 18 Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19 If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most to be pitied.

Only One way to be saved, by One Person, One Gospel and One Faith. In Him alone. Scripture is really very exclusive here but inclusive to all that come to Him freely!

And Paul received this gospel directly from Christ by personal revelation

Galatians 1:11-12
I want you to know, brothers and sisters, that the gospel I preached is not of human origin. 12 I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ.

This gospel is Eternal !

Revelation 14:6
Then I saw another angel flying overhead, with the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who dwell on the earth—to every nation and tribe and tongue and people

Acts 4:12
And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

Jesus passed on the gospel to His Disciples. Its the same Gospel but Christ had not suffered, died, risen yet. The disciples didn't understand the Passion until after His Resurrection, they were in denial.

Jesus replied, “You do not realize now what I am doing, but later you will understand…. I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am who I am.” — John 13:7,19

After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken. — John 2:22

From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life. — Matthew 16:21

Now Jesus was going up to Jerusalem. On the way, he took the Twelve aside and said to them, “We are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be delivered over to the chief priests and the teachers of the law. They will condemn him to death and will hand him over to the Gentiles to be mocked and flogged and crucified. On the third day he will be raised to life!” — Matthew 20:17-19

After His Resurrection

He said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow to believe all that the prophets have spoken! Did not the Messiah have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?” And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself. — Luke 24:25-27

He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.” Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. — Luke 24:44-45

Are you teaching others the one true Gospel ?

Ones salvation depends upon the one true gospel !

The gospel is Christological or Christ centered. The message is about Jesus. So, the question becomes one of identity. Who is Jesus? Let’s see what Scripture declares about the identity of Jesus and the salvation message. We see in the opening of Matthews’s gospel that Jesus is identified as Immanuel which means literally that God is with us. In Luke’s gospel we see that Jesus was born the Savior of the world. In John’s gospel we read that the Word was with God and the Word became flesh. We beheld His Glory. We also read in the same gospel (meaning good news) that God sent His Son to be the Savior. Where did He send Him from? Jesus gives us the answer to the question in John 17:5. He was together with the Father before creation and shared His Glory which is Gods alone. Jesus also tells His followers why do you ask to see the Father? To see Me is to see the Father. The Father and I are One. Basically, He is telling them He is God, you are looking at Him. This is why the Pharisees tried to stone Him on many occasions for claiming to be God (see John 8:56-60)

Also, we see the His Apostles identify Jesus as God. Thomas in John 20:28. Paul in Romans 9:5, Titus 2:13. Peter in 2 Peter 1:1,11. Hebrews 1-2, Jude and John in 1 John 1 and 5:20. Also the entire book of Revelation.

Acts it declares there is no other name given by which men must be saved! Not the name of the Father, not the name of the H.S. but the name of Jesus who represents the Godhead.

So, the gospel is Christ centered and one must know in whom they are placing their faith in to be saved.

Can I place my faith in Paul and be saved?
Can I place my faith in Peter and be saved?
Can I place my faith in Mary and be saved?
Can I place my faith in the pope and be saved?
Can I place my faith in the Holy Spirit and be saved?
Can I place my faith in the Father and be saved?
Can I place my faith in a god and be saved?

The answer to the above is a resounding no according to Scripture. There is no other name by which men must be saved period, end of story.

So, one must know and understand who the gospel is about and what He did for us. He came from heaven as God( the Word was God John 1:1, the Word became flesh John 1:14) to earth as a man to die for the sins of the world. This is the gospel by which men must be saved. He rose from the dead by the power of the Godhead (the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit) together raised Jesus the man from the dead.

hope this helps,
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There are several threads that do not spell out the gospel. There is only One gospel that saves on from their sins. Its important that we get the gospel of our salvation correct.

And there are many who reverse the order of hearing, believing the gospel and after becoming born again.

The new birth being born again comes through the message of the gospel. It doesn't come before but after faith.

1 Peter 1:21-24
Through him you believe in God, who raised him from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God. 22 Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for each other, love one another deeply, from the heart. 23 For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 24 For,

“All people are like grass,
and all their glory is like the flowers of the field;
the grass withers and the flowers fall,
25 but the word of the Lord endures forever.”
And this is the word that was preached to you.

So Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of Christ !

Romans 10
How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? 15 And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!” 16 But not all the Israelites accepted the good news. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our message?” 17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ.

hope this helps !!!
 
civic said:
There are several threads that do not spell out the gospel. There is only One gospel that saves on from their sins. Its important that we get the gospel of our salvation correct.

And there are many who reverse the order of hearing, believing the gospel and after becoming born again.

The new birth being born again comes through the message of the gospel. It doesn't come before but after faith.

1 Peter 1:21-24
Through him you believe in God, who raised him from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God. 22 Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for each other, love one another deeply, from the heart. 23 For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 24 For,

“All people are like grass,
and all their glory is like the flowers of the field;
the grass withers and the flowers fall,
25 but the word of the Lord endures forever.”
And this is the word that was preached to you.

So Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of Christ !

Romans 10
How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? 15 And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!” 16 But not all the Israelites accepted the good news. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our message?” 17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ.

hope this helps !!!
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The new birth being born again comes through the message of the gospel.
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Correct

It doesn't come before but after faith.
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Correct

Saving FAITH has a Source which is The Elohim from Genesis chapter 1

Therefore, God always comes first to bring Salvation to a man.
 
civic said:
There are several threads that do not spell out the gospel. There is only One gospel that saves on from their sins. Its important that we get the gospel of our salvation correct.

And there are many who reverse the order of hearing, believing the gospel and after becoming born again.

The new birth being born again comes through the message of the gospel. It doesn't come before but after faith.

1 Peter 1:21-24
Through him you believe in God, who raised him from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God. 22 Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for each other, love one another deeply, from the heart. 23 For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 24 For,

“All people are like grass,
and all their glory is like the flowers of the field;
the grass withers and the flowers fall,
25 but the word of the Lord endures forever.”
And this is the word that was preached to you.

So Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of Christ !

Romans 10
How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? 15 And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!” 16 But not all the Israelites accepted the good news. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our message?” 17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ.

hope this helps !!!
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Truly truly it is very simple indeed .
Had we beleived The gospel , had we beleived in Christ as do a child
then we would also have BELEIVED HIS WORDS .
Are you wondering why i wrote this.
I wrote this for many can lip the gospel , as could i once , but the jesus they love and embrace
never pulled them out of darkness but rather embraced the darkness and left them in bondage
and in sin . rainbow jesus dont save even if it can quoate the gospel .
All inclusive jesus does not save . JESUS SAVES . And yet many follow another jesus .
Even one that now omits THE DIRE NEED to beleive on him
and kisses korans and budda statues for world peace doing all to preach this false finding common ground
with the false religoins of darkness .
However i have one simple question concerning that mess , that lie of anti christ .
SINCE WHEN did the church begin to beleive WE EVER HAD ANYTHING IN COMMON with darkness .
Cause we DONT . a table has been offered up
and this table has What they think as CHRIST and muahmmed and budda and all sitting at it .
BUT , ITS ONLY what think THINK is CHRIST , cause JESUS darn sure would not have
us finding any kind of common ground with satan and the darkness .
We really should have kept to the pattern Christ set and later the aposetls had set .
AND i sure never seen them trying to find common ground
I DID SEE THEM preaching JESUS and even warning those who rejected OF the dire and deadly consequences
that lay up for they who rejected CHRIST on HIS DAY . that is what I SEEN in the bible .
NOT this lets overlook our differences and gets us some common ground . THAT IS a total recipe for disaster
and all who do so have fallen and will fall .
 
Allah forgives sins just like Yahweh, and rewards the righteous.

Only Christianity says we are all sinners and no one can be good enough.

Only Yahweh paid for our sins on the Cross, the defining and central element of Christianity.

Remove the atonement from the Gospel and you just have another moralistic works-based religion.
 
Dizerner said:
Allah forgives sins just like Yahweh, and rewards the righteous.

Only Christianity says we are all sinners and no one can be good enough.

Only Yahweh paid for our sins on the Cross, the defining and central element of Christianity.

Remove the atonement from the Gospel and you just have another moralistic works-based religion.
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allah doesn't exist therefor there is no forgiveness of sins. :)

as you know he is a false god.
 
civic said:
allah doesn't exeist therefor there is no forgiveness of sins. :)

as you know he is a false god.
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This response is worthy of ten trillion lovely likes .
For there be only ONE GOD
And ONLY ONE WAY TO THIS GOD . And if folks dont beleive in or know that way
THEY KNOW NOT THAT GOD .
WHICH IS THE ONLY GOD .
WHO CREATED ALL .
And was BEFORE all
Even before abraham or adam was , HE WAS .
Is this beginning to sound real familiar .
THE ONE THE ONLY ONE who created all things IS GOD .
And i sure seem to notice things BOTH JESUS said
and later the apostels said
As well as the prophets even in torah said and pointed too .
But if folks want to hear some of His words
YES the very words OF HE WHO WAS BEFORE all that was , even was
and that BY HIM were all things created that even are and were .
THEN lets hear his words .
O FATHER glorify thou ME with the glory which i had WITH THEE before the WORLD EVEN WAS .
THAT JESUS IS SHUNNED BY THE MUSLIMS
SEEING to them GOD has NO SON , let alone they even dare to put muhammed , A MAN OF SATAN , YEAH I SAID
SATAN . HE WAS OF SATAN . HE WAS OF SATAN . THEY dare and even try and put MUHAMMED
and JESUS ON THE SAME LEVEL . I would not even have dared to put MOSES , WHO I KNOW
heard from GOD , on the same level as JESUS .
I SHUN THE ALL INCLUSIVE INTERFIATH LIE TO THE PITS FROM WHICH IT SPRANG . OF TOTAL DARKNESS .
I know this makes me sound like a hater to most .
AND EVEN MOST within christendom . BUT what i say to you
i would and do say to all , MUHAMMED SERVED SATAN as did budda
and any other false religoin . AND JESUS
as for JESUS . HE WAS BEFORE EVEN ADAM WAS , HE was BEFORE EVEN THE WORLD WAS .
JUST who do we really THINK GOD IS .
I TELL US ALL THAT GOD IS HIS SPIRIT and HE IS HIS WORD .
AND that in the very beginning was THE WORD
and that all things created were done so BY THE WORD , BY GOD ALL MIGHTY WHO SPOKE
and that THE WORD WAS GOD . Folks better bible up real fast . Wouldnt you agree .
ITS TIME folks stop being fleeced by men and start learning FROM THE GOD
AS IN THE ONLY GOD . TIME to love TRUTH . AND GOD IS TRUTH , as HIS SPIRIT IS TRUTH
as HIS WORD IS TRUTH .
 
DavidTree said:
Who is allah???
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The same one that all false religoins do serve .
Though not all false religoins call him allah .
WHO IS this allah of the muslim religoin .
THE SAME ONE who got booted out of heaven FOR REBELLING AGAINST THE ONE TRUE GOD .
And frankly i dont care if that makes me sound as a hater .
I KNOW , and that BY GRACE , that the god of all atheists , buddists , muslims , new age , mormons ,
WOE this list can get real long , IS none other than the one
that even the JESUS rejecting jews served . AND JESUS called them out for it .
YE are of your father , any guesses on why that father is not captlized , oh wait for it
THE DEVIL .
HE WHO COMES IN HIS OWN NAME MANY NOW HEAR AND MANY NOW LOVE
and he has led them and even most of christendom into total rebellion
and soon into great murder , a massive tribulation against the last saints standing .
OH if this seems hard to beleive . IF many think there is no way
that such a EVOLVED so called GOD loving world could put to death so many true saints
THEN THINK AGAIN . this world DONT LOVE GOD and its love darn sure aint of him .
THIS generation has been DUPED . And GREAT TRIBULATION , and i mean GREAT TRIBULATION
will explode against , THE TRUE SAINTS and in short time david.
THIS CAN KICK OFF at any moment . AND BELIEVE ME , THEY GONNA THINK they do this all inclusive
gods will WHEN THEY DO cast us out . OH ITS COMING DAVID . ITS COMING .
And now a word , a friendly reminder for us all .
One would think , knowing what i know that i might have fear .
NO SIR . MY GOD IS WITH ME and TO LIVE IS CHRIST AND TO DIE IS ONLY GAIN .
NO RETREAT , NO SURRENDER , IF I DIE then i die , AND YET I SHALL NEVER DIE THANKS BE TO GOD AND TO HIS CHRIST .
i know i sound insane to most . BUT WHY fear death WHEN JESUS DONE conquered death .
I SAY fear the SECOND DEATH and HE WHO has POWER to cast both soul and body INTO THAT .
TIME to fear the LORD . TIME TO HOPE ONLY IN GOD . cause frankly THERE IS NO HOPE IN MAN .
BUT IN GOD , IN CHRIST is our hope . SO there it is . IF folks think me crazy
THEN I SUPPOSE I am in real good shoes cause they even THOUGHT JESUS was beside himself .
I MADE MY CHOICE david . HAVE MADE my choice . ITS GOD , ITS CHRIST and if it costs me all
THEN SO BE IT .
 

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