What Does “Another Gospel” Mean?

This is a good example that many even within christendom who cliam to believe ON JESUS the CHRIST
are following another version of JESUS which is no version of him at all .
IF we walk into most churches , the churches of the we are diverse , we are inclusive
THEY sure seem to love on the unrepentant , never correcting their sin and even accepting it
About the only ones they seem to hate on is , THE TRUE BRETHREN who do LOVE GOD and do correct the erring members .
THEY love those who hate GOD ,they have made a covenant of interfaith with those who hate GOD
and worse still they tell them lost religoins a fat lie that we are all serving the same GOD
and yet when men appear who try and warn them lost souls , THEY CALL prolestyzing and those who do so
NOT EVEN BEING CHRISTAIN . Something has went dead dead wrong and yet most just think its loving and the love of God .
THAT is known as a rather strong delusion . Led them all right to the upmost rebellion towards GOD
and yet they thinks its the love of GOD . Not looking good at all sister .
 
The gospel of Jesus Christ is the greatest of all treasures given to the church and us Christian. It is not a message among many but the message above them all. It is the power of God for salvation and the greatest revelation of the manifold wisdom of God to us.

It is for this reason that Paul gave the gospel the first place in his preaching, endeavored with all his might to proclaim it clearly, and even pronounced a curse upon all those who would pervert its truth.

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to and different from that which we preached to you, let him be accursed (anathema, devoted to destruction, doomed to eternal punishment
Galatians 1:8
 
Why did he not do so? John 17:2! He was sent to do the will of his Father, not his will as a man.

Matthew 26:39​

“And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.”

Pointing to another context to support your conclusion is poor hermeneutics. The context is clear. He was speaking as their maker.
 
Jim, I do not disagree that men make choices according to the nature they have. But, a person not regenerate (still in the flesh) cannot make a choice toward doing the will of God, impossible.

Romans 8:8​

“So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”
But you see, Red, you have made a definition of "in the flesh" which is based upon the false doctrine of total depravity, not on its definition according to the Bible. You have the truly diabolical belief that the unregenerate is a murderer since to not murder is God's law and the unregenerate is not capable of obeying God's law. I reject completely that line of thinking. And I suspect that down deep in your heart, you reject that too, but still hold onto the idea that the "not regenerate (still in the flesh) cannot make a choice toward doing the will of God, impossible".

The point is that if one has lived his entire life and disobeyed God only once, then he has not pleased God and cannot please God. That single sin has condemned him. That doesn't mean he cannot continue to obey God's law as he always has except that once.

What passages such as Roman 8:1-11 are telling us is the absolute seriousness of sin. Even one sin condemns. There is no such thing as "a little white lie (sin)". So, such passages, do not so much describe the actions and abilities of the unsaved but rather the absolute holiness of God. There is so much more to be said in this regard, but I will stop here.
 
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Pointing to another context to support your conclusion is poor hermeneutics. The context is clear. He was speaking as their maker.
Your opinion means nothing, and neither does mine, or, any other person. Use the scriptures to prove your point, or you have truly nothing to say in the way of biblical exhortation for others profit.
 
Your opinion means nothing, and neither does mine, or, any other person. Use the scriptures to prove your point, or you have truly nothing to say in the way of biblical exhortation for others profit.

Don't get angry. You know you missed it. Most people do......

You were looking to prove your point. I go where the information leads me. You will never get to where you want to go until you change your approach.
 
But you see, Red, you have made a definition of "in the flesh" which is based upon the false doctrine of total depravity, not on its definition according to the Bible.
Jim, I have addressed this many times over with you, so, not going to do so again, unless someone ask me to do so for their profit, then, of course I would.

Quickly, Romans 8:1-14, etc. is teaching the depravity of the flesh, along with other scripture...from birth! Psalms 51, etc. Some scriptures already provided above.

Galatians three and other places teach that even if a person think justification comes by him doing works the law, trough the energy of his flesh ~ Paul reminds them that they must continue perfectly in all of them, one little sin puts them under its curse, though the truth is, we sin in all points each and every day, even the very best of God's children fall short in all things~ Romans 7.
You have the truly diabolical belief that the unregenerate is a murderer since to not murder is God's law and the unregenerate is not capable of obeying God's law.
Jim, have you ever been angry at someone without a reason ~ of course we all have, then truly that's murder in our hearts, even though most would never take it as far killing the body of someone? I have heard many on Christian forums murder John Calvin's character and truly do not even know him, they are guilty in God's sight of murder. On and on we could go.
 
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Don't get angry.
You are a poor judge of character, along with being ignorance of biblical truths. God is my judge, I have very seldom got angry of forums, truly cannot remember when. I refuse to allow folks get under my skin, for then then have the upper hand, to get into your mind and frustrate you. It would take more than what you have to offer to do that to me.
I go where the information leads me
Is that why you are thinking about joining with the Catholic church as you said a couple of weeks ago? That spoke volumes to me on your faith and your understanding of the truth! The biggest religious whore in Mystery Babylon. Maybe that's where you should go, go where your heart truly is
You will never get to where you want to go until you change your approach.
I'm there, thank you very much!

John 8:32​

“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”

John 10:27​

“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:”
 
You are a poor judge of character, along with being ignorance of biblical truths. God is my judge, I have very seldom got angry of forums, truly cannot remember when. I refuse to allow folks get under my skin, for then then have the upper hand, to get into your mind and frustrate you. It would take more than what you have to offer to do that to me.

There are levels to anger. Reconsider.

Is that why you are thinking about joining with the Catholic church as you said a couple of weeks ago? That spoke volumes to me on your faith and your understanding of the truth! The biggest religious whore in Mystery Babylon. Maybe that's where you should go, go where your heart truly is

Okay......

Please understand. I find no "home" anywhere today among various "sects" of theology. I have my own. I believe every man should have their own. I disagree with Roman Catholics in many areas. However, the same is true of most any theology that exists anywhere. I have put forth the effort to know what "I" believe. I'm not following anyone but Christ. Other than this, I consider what most anyone has to say about Jesus.

You shouldn't "read too much" into what I said. I do know ONE thing. This will help you understand my comments better.

You can be a "sinner" and yet still be accepted by the faithful in Roman Catholic church. Most Protestants "kill" their own.

As far as beliefs are concerned.....

1. I don't believe in water baptismal regeneration. However, I don't see too much danger to baptizing children.
2. I'm torn between transubstantiation.
3. I do believe Catholics show too much affection toward "Mary" but I do believe she is highly favored. More so than Protestants care to admit.
4. I do believe in praying to saints.
5. I don't believe in the "priestly order" of Roman Catholics, However, your "leaders" do much the same things. They just don't call it a "priestly work".
6. I do believe in confessing sins to one another. I believe this endears us to one another.

I could go on and on but don't draw too many conclusions from this. If you want to know, ask. I'm unique in many ways. I don't find value it being "unique". I've just decided to OWN my life myself. That way when I face God, I have no one to blame but myself.

I don't find too many people anymore that feel this way.

I'm there, thank you very much!

John 8:32​

“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”

John 10:27​

“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:”

You preach yourself. That is why you're focusing on "election" in your theology. God chose Christ. I will focus upon Him. Christ is God's elect. God's choice. Not you.
 
Please understand.
It would be impossible to understand how a person who said he was ordained in the Independent Baptist fundamentalist movement, would even contemplate worshipping with Catholic heretics, and heretics they are.....again, the biggest whore in religious Babylon. This is not to say, IB do not have their false gospel, for they certainly do, even though there are so many more God fearing people among them, than the religion of the pious long robe wearing men, who have for the most part given themselves over as sexual sexual predators of young boys ~ and their boldness of calling themselves "father" when they know nothing of what it truly means to be a father naturally, much less spiritually.

Matthew 23:8-12​

“But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.”

These proud Pharisees love to be called pope, cardinals, fathers, etc. you can have them, they are an abomination to the God of heaven, and to all righteous men and women.
I'm not following anyone but Christ.
You are deceiving your soul ~ you are considering a main enemy of Jesus Christ and his people ~ read Foxe's Book of Martyrs
They are no friends of Christ and his people.
I consider what most anyone has to say about Jesus.
Except those men and women who down through the ages have taught free justification by God's grace through the faith and obedience of Jesus Christ alone ~ the very people you find in Foxe's book of Martyrs killed by the false rellgion of Mystery Babylon headed up by RCC/EOC.
You shouldn't "read too much" into what I said.
It does not take much to know where a man's heart is, just follow what he said, and it all will come out to wise enough to see through their false profession.
You can be a "sinner" and yet still be accepted by the faithful in Roman Catholic church.
Not unless you "come home" as they call it!

Example: many years ago, before I was converted, I had a friend who was of the Catholic faith, which truly then meant nothing to me, since I was nothing but a sinner. My friend asked me to go with him and his wife to have his five month old son baptized, which I said I would. When we arrived and ready to have his son baptized into the Catholic faith, the priest look at me and asked: "are you a Catholic", to which I replied and said...I am nothing, but a sinner! The self-righteous priest said: you cannot watch this and be present ~ to which I said find, I'll leave, but my friend insisted that I stay and the priest allow it. My friend btw, was just as evil as I was at time, we both ran wild. That happen about a year before I this lost sheep was found, and once I committed myself to serving God, I no longer had that friend, mutually agreed on from both sides to separate as friends.
Most Protestants "kill" their own.
Do not know, since I have never considered myself as a protestant, never. I have never protested against any truths of the scriptures ~ the Catholics want to label all protestant's who are not Catholics, but, I do not buy into that lie. I see that you have.
1. I don't believe in water baptismal regeneration.
Agreed
I don't see too much danger to baptizing children.
There are no example of this in the word of God.

Baptizing children not properly qualified for the ordinance is a perversion of the gospel of Christ. All things must be done decently and in order: baptizing foolish children is wrong (I Cor 14:40). Baptism is important, for it is the first act of Christian obedience (Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; 10:48). Baptism requires repentance, which in turn requires consciousness of sins (Matt 3:6; Mark 1:4). Baptism is the answer of a good conscience, so we must have a conscience, sufficient knowledge of the gospel to make it good, and the ability and willingness to act conscientiously (I Pet 3:21). John required fruits, or actions, to prove a true spirit of repentance before baptism (Matt 3:7-9).

We will avoid and reject Roman influence that would value sacramentalism without knowledge. Baptism is not needed for eternal life, so there is no obligation or need to baptize children early. In the book of Acts only men and women were baptized showing us that we must not push the issue with even young folks between 6-19~if they are God's elect they will not spoil, they will be okay, baptism is a serious act of commitment which even most youth are not willing to do, they are too busy serving their lust.

I may come back later to finish~been up all night sick, so I'm going to get a little rest before seeing If I can get into to see the doctor.
 
It would be impossible to understand how a person who said he was ordained in the Independent Baptist fundamentalist movement, would even contemplate worshipping with Catholic heretics, and heretics they are.....again, the biggest whore in religious Babylon. This is not to say, IB do not have their false gospel, for they certainly do, even though there are so many more God fearing people among them, than the religion of the pious long robe wearing men, who have for the most part given themselves over as sexual sexual predators of young boys ~ and their boldness of calling themselves "father" when they know nothing of what it truly means to be a father naturally, much less spiritually.

Matthew 23:8-12​

“But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.”

These proud Pharisees love to be called pope, cardinals, fathers, etc. you can have them, they are an abomination to the God of heaven, and to all righteous men and women.

You are deceiving your soul ~ you are considering a main enemy of Jesus Christ and his people ~ read Foxe's Book of Martyrs
They are no friends of Christ and his people.

Except those men and women who down through the ages have taught free justification by God's grace through the faith and obedience of Jesus Christ alone ~ the very people you find in Foxe's book of Martyrs killed by the false rellgion of Mystery Babylon headed up by RCC/EOC.

It does not take much to know where a man's heart is, just follow what he said, and it all will come out to wise enough to see through their false profession.

Not unless you "come home" as they call it!

Example: many years ago, before I was converted, I had a friend who was of the Catholic faith, which truly then meant nothing to me, since I was nothing but a sinner. My friend asked me to go with him and his wife to have his five month old son baptized, which I said I would. When we arrived and ready to have his son baptized into the Catholic faith, the priest look at me and asked: "are you a Catholic", to which I replied and said...I am nothing, but a sinner! The self-righteous priest said: you cannot watch this and be present ~ to which I said find, I'll leave, but my friend insisted that I stay and the priest allow it. My friend btw, was just as evil as I was at time, we both ran wild. That happen about a year before I this lost sheep was found, and once I committed myself to serving God, I no longer had that friend, mutually agreed on from both sides to separate as friends.

Do not know, since I have never considered myself as a protestant, never. I have never protested against any truths of the scriptures ~ the Catholics want to label all protestant's who are not Catholics, but, I do not buy into that lie. I see that you have.

Agreed

There are no example of this in the word of God.

Baptizing children not properly qualified for the ordinance is a perversion of the gospel of Christ. All things must be done decently and in order: baptizing foolish children is wrong (I Cor 14:40). Baptism is important, for it is the first act of Christian obedience (Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; 10:48). Baptism requires repentance, which in turn requires consciousness of sins (Matt 3:6; Mark 1:4). Baptism is the answer of a good conscience, so we must have a conscience, sufficient knowledge of the gospel to make it good, and the ability and willingness to act conscientiously (I Pet 3:21). John required fruits, or actions, to prove a true spirit of repentance before baptism (Matt 3:7-9).

We will avoid and reject Roman influence that would value sacramentalism without knowledge. Baptism is not needed for eternal life, so there is no obligation or need to baptize children early. In the book of Acts only men and women were baptized showing us that we must not push the issue with even young folks between 6-19~if they are God's elect they will not spoil, they will be okay, baptism is a serious act of commitment which even most youth are not willing to do, they are too busy serving their lust.

I may come back later to finish~been up all night sick, so I'm going to get a little rest before seeing If I can get into to see the doctor.
Get well soon brother.

J.
 
Jim, I have addressed this many times over with you, so, not going to do so again, unless someone ask me to do so for their profit, then, of course I would.
Yes you have. And I have addressed this many times with you pointing out where you are wrong. I will continue to do so because of the truly great error injected into the gospel of God with Total Depravity.
Quickly, Romans 8:1-14, etc. is teaching the depravity of the flesh, along with other scripture...from birth! Psalms 51, etc. Some scriptures already provided above.
It is interesting that you see in Romans 8:1-14 the teaching of the depravity of the flesh. I tend to see in Romans 8:1-14 the teaching of life in the Spirit. Also while there is indeed the teaching of depravity in the flesh, there is not any teaching of total depravity and certainly not from birth.
Galatians three and other places teach that even if a person think justification comes by him doing works the law, trough the energy of his flesh ~ Paul reminds them that they must continue perfectly in all of them, one little sin puts them under its curse, though the truth is, we sin in all points each and every day, even the very best of God's children fall short in all things~ Romans 7.
Certainly no argument there.
Jim, have you ever been angry at someone without a reason ~ of course we all have, then truly that's murder in our hearts, even though most would never take it as far killing the body of someone? I have heard many on Christian forums murder John Calvin's character and truly do not even know him, they are guilty in God's sight of murder. On and on we could go.
Be careful there my good friend. In being liable to judgment for being angry does not place one in being liable to judgment for murder. The law with its commandments and temporal penalties for disobedience clearly show that God does not consider all sin to be the same even though the least or smallest sin leads to spiritual death and potentially to eternal death.
 
Be careful there my good friend. In being liable to judgment for being angry does not place one in being liable to judgment for murder. The law with its commandments and temporal penalties for disobedience clearly show that God does not consider all sin to be the same even though the least or smallest sin leads to spiritual death and potentially to eternal death.
Brother, Jim, I just got in from the hospital where I went around 3:00 a.m. this morning, since I could breath. They said I was a step from death, more less. They gave me two treatments, put other medicine in me, plus order more at the pharmacy to be pick up..... (thank God for witty inventions and the gift of the apothecary.....they and put me on a short lease to allow me to come back home, only as long as I do not get worse than what I was doing when I left. Plus made two more appointment with a lung doctor and my own doctor. So. I'm going to rest a little, but I must work while I'm still living, this is all I know to do.

So for now let me said this, and it might surprise you, but if you give it some thoughts, I truly beleive you will agree.

Every one of Adam's off springs are spiritual serial killers, (yes, you heard me right) and they will give an account for their killing spree on Judgment Day. Many hated our Lord "without even a cause".......can you believe that?!

I'll come back and prove it, it will not take very much effort on my part to do so. I covet your prayers in all sincerity.
 
It would be impossible to understand how a person who said he was ordained in the Independent Baptist fundamentalist movement, would even contemplate worshipping with Catholic heretics, and heretics they are.....again, the biggest whore in religious Babylon. This is not to say, IB do not have their false gospel, for they certainly do, even though there are so many more God fearing people among them, than the religion of the pious long robe wearing men, who have for the most part given themselves over as sexual sexual predators of young boys ~ and their boldness of calling themselves "father" when they know nothing of what it truly means to be a father naturally, much less spiritually.

Matthew 23:8-12​

“But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.”

These proud Pharisees love to be called pope, cardinals, fathers, etc. you can have them, they are an abomination to the God of heaven, and to all righteous men and women.

You are deceiving your soul ~ you are considering a main enemy of Jesus Christ and his people ~ read Foxe's Book of Martyrs
They are no friends of Christ and his people.

Except those men and women who down through the ages have taught free justification by God's grace through the faith and obedience of Jesus Christ alone ~ the very people you find in Foxe's book of Martyrs killed by the false rellgion of Mystery Babylon headed up by RCC/EOC.

It does not take much to know where a man's heart is, just follow what he said, and it all will come out to wise enough to see through their false profession.

Not unless you "come home" as they call it!

Example: many years ago, before I was converted, I had a friend who was of the Catholic faith, which truly then meant nothing to me, since I was nothing but a sinner. My friend asked me to go with him and his wife to have his five month old son baptized, which I said I would. When we arrived and ready to have his son baptized into the Catholic faith, the priest look at me and asked: "are you a Catholic", to which I replied and said...I am nothing, but a sinner! The self-righteous priest said: you cannot watch this and be present ~ to which I said find, I'll leave, but my friend insisted that I stay and the priest allow it. My friend btw, was just as evil as I was at time, we both ran wild. That happen about a year before I this lost sheep was found, and once I committed myself to serving God, I no longer had that friend, mutually agreed on from both sides to separate as friends.

Do not know, since I have never considered myself as a protestant, never. I have never protested against any truths of the scriptures ~ the Catholics want to label all protestant's who are not Catholics, but, I do not buy into that lie. I see that you have.

Agreed

There are no example of this in the word of God.

Baptizing children not properly qualified for the ordinance is a perversion of the gospel of Christ. All things must be done decently and in order: baptizing foolish children is wrong (I Cor 14:40). Baptism is important, for it is the first act of Christian obedience (Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; 10:48). Baptism requires repentance, which in turn requires consciousness of sins (Matt 3:6; Mark 1:4). Baptism is the answer of a good conscience, so we must have a conscience, sufficient knowledge of the gospel to make it good, and the ability and willingness to act conscientiously (I Pet 3:21). John required fruits, or actions, to prove a true spirit of repentance before baptism (Matt 3:7-9).

We will avoid and reject Roman influence that would value sacramentalism without knowledge. Baptism is not needed for eternal life, so there is no obligation or need to baptize children early. In the book of Acts only men and women were baptized showing us that we must not push the issue with even young folks between 6-19~if they are God's elect they will not spoil, they will be okay, baptism is a serious act of commitment which even most youth are not willing to do, they are too busy serving their lust.

I may come back later to finish~been up all night sick, so I'm going to get a little rest before seeing If I can get into to see the doctor.
you are not kidding about that my friend . Them bold catholics always try and label me a protestant .
THEY always try and say ANYONE who is not catholic IS protestant . Rather odd cause i sure dont sit in them churches either .
OH some of them may have had some good truth at one time , most did not , but now its just getting worse all the time .
Everyone seems to want to just have this unity stuff and yet the leader of THIS great unity stuff
is even having us through interfaith to unify with the false religoins . as they cliam we all serving the same GOD . its all a lie and a mess .
 
Do you believe that satan can make something we were not supposed to do
seem as though its something we should do and that it will usher in something good for us .
IF NOT read genesis .
SO dont marvel that he can make interfaith seem GOOD and as though it can lead to world peace
WHEN IN FACT the evil of its interreligious dialagoue that DENIES the need to BELEIVE JESUS is the CHRIST
and rather implies all religoins serve the same GOD and that this is a good cause to attain peace n safety .
I SEE many who support interfaith and often go after men like me
with phrases that say OH SO YOU ARE FOR WAR . INTERFIATH is the means to attain world peace n safety they cry .
OH I KNOW it might seem likes its for a good cause
BUT UPON examination OF HOW they go about to attain this so callled world peace n safety ,
MAN HAS JESUS BEEN DENIED . SO here is the peace n safety that shall come upon them
SUDDEN DESTRUCTION FROM ON HIGH AND FROM ABOVE from THE ONE TRUE CHRIST OF GOD
who LAYS DOWN WITH FURIOUS VENGEANCE upon all who entered into that covenant
and were in any way and in any part a co helper and supporter of it .
GUESS folks seem to have forgotten ANTI CHRIST MAKES A PEACE covenant
WE BEEN DECIEVED . I TELL US ALL WE BEEN DECIEVED . Time to flee that dung hole called interfaith co exist
common ground bridge building dung . cause its all coming DOWN on the DAY OF THE LORD .

Am I the only one who thinks that TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY, (which by the way, is misspelled) is really 101G?
 
No, are not the only one...... He (not sure) may be also....Studyman, just a thought that came into my mine by the mannerism of his wording. The moderators can check his IP number
now i am study man too . I have no idea what studyman even teaches .
If i am all these people , WHEN on earth do i have time to even breath , LOL . NOW BIBLE TIME . thats been my mission .
I dont use greek , hebrew , lexicons , or etc . I just say GET in that bible to learn what many men no longer
teach , TRUTH .
 
No, are not the only one...... He (not sure) may be also....Studyman, just a thought that came into my mine by the mannerism of his wording. The moderators can check his IP number
Do this . i challenge the two of you to go to the mods and Have them do this . You all will soon be proved wrong my friend .
BUT by all means i do encourage you to do this , SO at least you can then know you were wrong . Hurry .
 
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