What is Oneness Theology ?

[civic]

Oneness doctrine is a rejection of the Trinity and is found in some branches of Pentecostalism. Oneness doctrine teaches that the one God reveals Himself in various forms: sometimes as the Father, sometimes as Jesus, and sometimes as the Holy Spirit. Oneness Pentecostalism, or Jesus-only teaching, is a modern recycling of the old Sabellianism and modalism of ages past.

The classic statement of Trinitarian doctrine is that there is One God who exists eternally in three Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. However, the Father is neither the Son nor the Holy Spirit. The Son is not the same person as the Father or the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is neither the Father nor the Son. The word Trinity is never used in the Bible, but Trinitarian doctrine is a summary of the teaching about God found in the New Testament.

Oneness advocates resemble Unitarians in that they both deny the Trinity. Unitarians believe in one God who exists as one person, God the Father. The Son is not God but rather a man. Perhaps He was a man who was more fully in tune with God than any other, but a man nonetheless. The Holy Spirit is not thought of as a person but rather as the power of God.

Although the words Oneness and Unitarianwould seem to mean the same thing, there is a significant difference theologically. Those who hold to Oneness doctrine believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all God. But instead of one God who exists eternally in three Persons, they believe in One God (a single Divine Spirit) who manifests Himself in three Persons or, perhaps more accurately, three personalities. Sometimes the One God interacts with humanity as the Father. Sometimes He interacts with humanity as the Son, and sometimes as the Holy Spirit. This is an ancient heretical teaching called modalism, which taught that God reveals Himself in different modes including Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

For many who hold to “Oneness doctrine,” Jesus is the primary manifestation of God. Jesus is the Father and the Holy Spirit.

Scripture plainly speaks of one God but also of distinct Persons. These Persons interact with each other. Jesus prays to the Father (John 17 is just one example). If the Father and the Son are not distinct persons, then this prayer is simply a monologue. To whom did Jesus surrender Himself on the cross (Luke 23:46)? And what did John mean when he wrote, “Whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son” (2 John 1:9)?

While Oneness doctrine would seem to be an improvement over Unitarian doctrine, it still falls short of what the New Testament teaches about the tri-unity of God.Got?

hope this helps !!!

 

[Truther]

I taught oneness for 30 years and realized it is simply a modification of the trinity which originated in the RCC.

Oneness are trinitarian cousins that the RCC oversees.

The true oneness of the Apostles and Jesus' teachings were the unification of God inside Jesus' body, which all incarnationists vehemently oppose.

Oneness teaches God the son.(small s)

Trins teach God the Son.(capital s)

The Apostles and Jesus taught the son of God.(completely opposite from the former)

What a mess.

 

[Truther]

The good thing that modern oneness did was to obey Acts 2:38, which her cousins can't seem to yet shake her RCC mother's hook.

 

[Speculator]

Oneness doctrine is a rejection of the Trinity and is found in some branches of Pentecostalism. Oneness doctrine teaches that the one God reveals Himself in various forms: sometimes as the Father, sometimes as Jesus, and sometimes as the Holy Spirit. Oneness Pentecostalism, or Jesus-only teaching, is a modern recycling of the old Sabellianism and modalism of ages past.

The classic statement of Trinitarian doctrine is that there is One God who exists eternally in three Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. However, the Father is neither the Son nor the Holy Spirit. The Son is not the same person as the Father or the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is neither the Father nor the Son. The word Trinity is never used in the Bible, but Trinitarian doctrine is a summary of the teaching about God found in the New Testament.

Oneness advocates resemble Unitarians in that they both deny the Trinity. Unitarians believe in one God who exists as one person, God the Father. The Son is not God but rather a man. Perhaps He was a man who was more fully in tune with God than any other, but a man nonetheless. The Holy Spirit is not thought of as a person but rather as the power of God.

Although the words Oneness and Unitarianwould seem to mean the same thing, there is a significant difference theologically. Those who hold to Oneness doctrine believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all God. But instead of one God who exists eternally in three Persons, they believe in One God (a single Divine Spirit) who manifests Himself in three Persons or, perhaps more accurately, three personalities. Sometimes the One God interacts with humanity as the Father. Sometimes He interacts with humanity as the Son, and sometimes as the Holy Spirit. This is an ancient heretical teaching called modalism, which taught that God reveals Himself in different modes including Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

For many who hold to “Oneness doctrine,” Jesus is the primary manifestation of God. Jesus is the Father and the Holy Spirit.

Scripture plainly speaks of one God but also of distinct Persons. These Persons interact with each other. Jesus prays to the Father (John 17 is just one example). If the Father and the Son are not distinct persons, then this prayer is simply a monologue. To whom did Jesus surrender Himself on the cross (Luke 23:46)? And what did John mean when he wrote, “Whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son” (2 John 1:9)?

While Oneness doctrine would seem to be an improvement over Unitarian doctrine, it still falls short of what the New Testament teaches about the tri-unity of God.Got?

hope this helps !!!

I'm all in for the trinity. I've been to a few Pentecostal churches but I don't think they were Oneness.

 

[Truther]

The RCC gave Christendom the trinity doctrine.

They created it via extra Biblical commentary.

Folks love commentary since they don't prescribe to sola scripura.

 

[Speculator]

Let's pray for Them!

 

[101G]

Thank God 101G is a "Diversified Oneness", the true Oneness of God..... (Smile).

101G

 

[Azriel]

Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Gen. 1:26–27

Note the word Our. We have been created in the full image of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

 

[101G]

Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Gen. 1:26–27

Note the word Our. We have been created in the full image of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

ERROR, OUR is to Come. for there is ONLY one Person there at Genesis 1:26..... for proof see the very next verse.

May God bless

PICJAG, 101G

 

[Truther]

Thank God 101G is a "Diversified Oneness", the true Oneness of God..... (Smile).

101G

What is exacly(in a nutshell) your oneness idea?

I can explain mine here...

God inside Jesus, unifying God and His son as one.

What is yours?

 

[Truther]

Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Gen. 1:26–27

Note the word Our. We have been created in the full image of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

How are we made in God's image?

A...omnipresence.

B...Spirit only.

C....incabable of sin.

D....14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

 

[civic]

ERROR, OUR is to Come. for there is ONLY one Person there at Genesis 1:26..... for proof see the very next verse.

May God bless

PICJAG, 101G

No the plural pronouns US, WE and OUR mean more than One.

 

[101G]

What is exacly(in a nutshell) your oneness idea?

Jesus Amalgamated in flesh.... (smile), B.A.M. BAM, BAM

PICJAG, 101G

 

[Truther]

Jesus Amalgamated in flesh.... (smile), B.A.M. BAM, BAM

PICJAG, 101G

We are amalgamated in flesh also.

 

[101G]

No the plural pronouns US, WE and OUR mean more than One.

Error, you believe the Lord Jesus, right and that he cannot Lie correct? let's hear it from the Lord Jesus Mouth that it's only ONE person at Genesis 1:26.

LISTEN and Learn. Matthew 19:3 "The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?" Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female," God is a HE at Genesis, yes God is a HE, according to the Lord Jesus, for our brother Mark confirms this in his Gospel that God is the He that the Lord Jesus spoke of. Mark 10:5 "And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept." Mark 10:6 "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female."

so the He who made Man Male and Female in the beginning is God. else the Gospels are not Lying, (God forbid). God is a HE. and the Lord Jesus said it is written,,,, WHERE? Genesis 1:27 right after 1:26. Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." B.A.M. BAM, BAM

so, how did God go from a US and OUR a plurality, to a HIS, and a He, a singularly in just one verse?

now, if the Lord Jesus sais God is a HE a single person, who are you to argue with the Lord Jesus, who cannot LIE.

well 101G KNOWS.... (smile)..... but do YOU?

so please explain, "How God went from a US and a OUR to a HIS, and a HE in one verse...... let the floor be open from discussion.

PICJAG, 101G.

 

[civic]

Error, you believe the Lord Jesus, right and that he cannot Lie correct? let's hear it from the Lord Jesus Mouth that it's only ONE person at Genesis 1:26.

LISTEN and Learn. Matthew 19:3 "The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?" Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female," God is a HE at Genesis, yes God is a HE, according to the Lord Jesus, for our brother Mark confirms this in his Gospel that God is the He that the Lord Jesus spoke of. Mark 10:5 "And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept." Mark 10:6 "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female."

so the He who made Man Male and Female in the beginning is God. else the Gospels are not Lying, (God forbid). God is a HE. and the Lord Jesus said it is written,,,, WHERE? Genesis 1:27 right after 1:26. Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." B.A.M. BAM, BAM

so, how did God go from a US and OUR a plurality, to a HIS, and a He, a singularly in just one verse?

now, if the Lord Jesus sais God is a HE a single person, who are you to argue with the Lord Jesus, who cannot LIE.

well 101G KNOWS.... (smile)..... but do YOU?

so please explain, "How God went from a US and a OUR to a HIS, and a HE in one verse...... let the floor be open from discussion.

PICJAG, 101G.

We are talking about Genesis 1:26. Lets stick to one verse at a time.

 

[101G]

We are amalgamated in flesh also.

NO, he, ONE PERSON, in the ECHAD), is amalgamated in Glorified flesh. please get it right

PICJAG, 101G.

 

[civic]

The literal Hebrew translation of the word 'Elohim' is Gods. Elohim is used of both the true God and also the many false gods. In Gen 1:26 it is used of the true God and in verses such as Exodus 20:3 and Deuteronomy 13:2 of false gods. Even one of the commandments say, "Thou shalt not have any other gods (Elohim) before Me." Point being, the Hebrew word for 'God' is a plural noun. Elohim has the Hebrew masculine plural ending. Whenever it is used of the true God, it is always translated in the singular. But, conversely, when used of the false gods, it is always translated into the plural. The fact that the Hebrew word is plural when speaking of the only one true God opens the door to the concept of plurality.

Normally, when Elohim is used of the one true God, the verb with it is singular. This goes contrary to normal Hebrew grammar because in Hebrew grammar the verb must agree with the noun in gender and number. Normally, one would expect that with Elohim, a plural noun, the plural verb would be used, which is true when it is used of false gods. Most of the time whenever the word Elohim is used of the true God, the verb used with it is in the singular number to prove that there is only one true God. But there are exceptions and these exceptions again open the door for the possibility of plurality in the Godhead.

For example, Genesis 20:13a reads:

Genesis 20:13 And it came to pass, when God caused me to wander ...

The Hebrew word that is translated "caused me to wander" is plural. Literally it reads, "And it came to pass, when They (in reference to God) caused me to wander..."

Another example is Genesis 35:7:

Genesis 35:7 And he built there an altar, and called the place Elbethel: because there God appeared unto him...

Here again, "appeared unto him" in Hebrew is a plural form which literally reads, "for there God appeared Themselves."

A third example being 2 Samuel 7:23:

2 Samuel 7:23 ... whom God went ...

Again, the Hebrew word for 'went' is plural, and literally reads, "...whom God They went..."

A fourth example is Psalms 58:11:

Psalms 58:11b "... verily he is a God that judgeth in the earth."

Again, the term "that judgeth" is a plural verb in Hebrew and literally it reads, "he is a God They judge."

Joshua 24:19 And Joshua said unto the people, Ye cannot serve the LORD: for he is an holy God; he is a jealous God; he will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins.

A jealous God - In the Hebrew, He is the holy Gods, holy Father, holy Son, holy Spirit. He will not endure a partner in his worship; you can not serve him and idols together. (Wesley)

"In the English translations, plural adjectives appear as nouns, but in the Hebrew text, these words are Hebrew adjectives. The adjective "holy" is a plural form which literally reads in the Hebrew "holy Gods""

Psalms 149:2 Let Israel rejoice in (his maker): let the children of Zion be joyful in their King.

"The adjective that is translated as "maker" is in Hebrew a plural so literally reads, "Let Israel rejoice in his Makers"

Ecclesiastes 12:1 Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them;

"Again, the word "Creator" in Hebrew is a plural adjective and literally reads, "Remember now thy Creators..."

Isaiah 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

"(This verse) has two examples. In English the verse reads, "thy Maker, thine husband". But both the term "Maker" and "husband" are in the Hebrew text plurals and literally read, "For thy Makers, thy Husbands" in reference to God.

This too emphasizes the concept of a plurality (within God)"

**The majority of the information above comes from 'Ariel Ministries', Manuscript # 50 entitled "The Trinity" by Dr. Arnold G. Fruchtenbaum, Messianic Jewish Hebrew scholar, - see http://www.ariel.org/amds.htm to read more of his works

 

[101G]

We are talking about Genesis 1:26. Lets stick to one verse at a time.

I am... (smile), did you not hear you Lord when he said GOD is a He who made man Male and Female in the beginning which is exactly what we're talking about. Genesis 1:26 and 27

PICJAG, 101G

 

[101G]

he literal Hebrew translation of the word 'Elohim' is Gods.

ERROR, listen,
H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem') n-m.
אֱלֹהֵי 'elohiy (el-o-hee') [alternate plural]
1. (literally) supreme ones.
2. (hence, in the ordinary sense) gods.
3. (specifically, in the plural, especially with the article) the Supreme God (i.e. the all supreme).
4. (sometimes) supreme, used as a superlative.
5. (occasionally, by way of deference) supreme magistrates, the highest magistrates of the land.
6. (also) the supreme angels (entities of unspecified type).
[plural of H433]
KJV: angels, X exceeding, God (gods)(-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.
Root(s): H433

Now, who is H433?
H433 אֱלוֹהַּ 'elowahh (el-o'-ah) n-m.
אֱלֹהַּ 'eloahh (el-o'-ah) [shortened (rarely)]
1. one with supreme strength and ability.
2. the Supreme Being, God the Creator, Yahweh by name.
3. a supreme entity, a god-like creature (that is, one of God's supreme creations, or one of man's inventions).
[probably prolonged (emphat.) from H410]
KJV: God, god.
Root(s): H410

My God, the ECHAD right in from of your face.....H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem') is the plural of H433. how plain can the ECHAD be

PICJAG, 101G.