It's all the same copied Greek Text. God preserved his word in the Greek Text. Only Heretics believe in a weak God who can't even protect his word.
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The Greek texts are all made from Catholicism translating. No originals remainIt's all the same copied Greek Text. God preserved his word in the Greek Text. Only Heretics believe in a weak God who can't even protect his word.
Doug Brents
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Blanket statements like that can be very dangerous. There are many people who know what Jesus taught (it is there in His Word for anyone to read and understand (with the Spirit's guidance)). And we know that we can know for sure that we are saved (1 John 5:13).Few even knows what he actually taught, yet the blind guides assure them- you are saved.
Here is a super important truth from Jesus that every true follower knows by heart and don't need to look it up= Matt 6:33-Keep on seeking-FIRST- the kingdom and his( YHVH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)--Accomplished 24/7-365 by a true follower. Otherwise its impossible for them to accomplish this important truth from Jesus-John 4:22-24, Jesus assures every true follower accomplishes that.Blanket statements like that can be very dangerous. There are many people who know what Jesus taught (it is there in His Word for anyone to read and understand (with the Spirit's guidance)). And we know that we can know for sure that we are saved (1 John 5:13).
I attended different trinity religions-All teach to seek Jesus' righteousness first because they do not listen to Jesus.
Lords prayer=The #1 issue for all involved = his Fathers name( YHVH(Jehovah)
Hogwash. The existing Greek Text is copies from the Greek Text that the Apostles wrote. Catholics wrote Latin Text which nobody reads or cares about.The Greek texts are all made from Catholicism translating. No originals remain
Gods name was in the NT over 200 places. Your version is corrupt.Hogwash. The existing Greek Text is copies from the Greek Text that the Apostles wrote. Catholics wrote Latin Text which nobody reads or cares about.
Hogwash. The existing Greek Text is copies from the Greek Text that the Apostles wrote. Only Heretics would claim that God is so weak that he couldn't preserve his word.Gods name was in the NT over 200 places. Your version is corrupt.
Doug Brents
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LOL, YHVH simply means "Lord". It is not the name of the Father; it is simply a title for Him. We do not know the name of the Father. The only one of the three representations of God we know is Jesus' name. The Father is simply "the Father", the Spirit is simply "the Spirit" or "the Holy Spirit" or "the Spirit of God". You don't have to believe in the "trinity". They can all be understood to be one being which manifests itself in three different ways. But you must believe in the deity of Jesus (for He said He was God several times, and that is sin if it is not true, yet He did not sin).Here is a super important truth from Jesus that every true follower knows by heart and don't need to look it up= Matt 6:33-Keep on seeking-FIRST- the kingdom and his( YHVH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)--Accomplished 24/7-365 by a true follower. Otherwise its impossible for them to accomplish this important truth from Jesus-John 4:22-24, Jesus assures every true follower accomplishes that.
I attended different trinity religions-All teach to seek Jesus' righteousness first because they do not listen to Jesus.
Lords prayer=The #1 issue for all involved = his Fathers name( YHVH(Jehovah)
Since Jesus is God, seeking Jesus' righteousness IS seeking the Father's righteousness, because the two are ONE! Matt 6:33 says seek first the Kingdom of God. Notice that it does not say seek first the Kingdom of the Father. Seek the righteousness of God, not the Father's righteousness. And since Jesus is God, seeking one is seeking the other, because they are one and the same.
You better relook. It has been proven Gods name was in NT over 200 spots-- Even trinity religions know its fact. The divine name kjv came out in 2015 with Gods name back in the NT. I showed you the 3 sources that prove its truth about Gods name. You best open your heart and pray on the matter.Hogwash. The existing Greek Text is copies from the Greek Text that the Apostles wrote. Only Heretics would claim that God is so weak that he couldn't preserve his word.
LORD was put in the OT by men who had no right, its a title, YHVH is Gods personal name that he put in his bible because he wants it there. Where do you come up with that. Every bible scholar on Earth knows that is his personal name and not the title LORD.LOL, YHVH simply means "Lord". It is not the name of the Father; it is simply a title for Him. We do not know the name of the Father. The only one of the three representations of God we know is Jesus' name. The Father is simply "the Father", the Spirit is simply "the Spirit" or "the Holy Spirit" or "the Spirit of God". You don't have to believe in the "trinity". They can all be understood to be one being which manifests itself in three different ways. But you must believe in the deity of Jesus (for He said He was God several times, and that is sin if it is not true, yet He did not sin).
Since Jesus is God, seeking Jesus' righteousness IS seeking the Father's righteousness, because the two are ONE! Matt 6:33 says seek first the Kingdom of God. Notice that it does not say seek first the Kingdom of the Father. Seek the righteousness of God, not the Father's righteousness. And since Jesus is God, seeking one is seeking the other, because they are one and the same.
Catholicism=2Thess 2:3) translating makes it look like Jesus is God
If Jesus said he was God he would have lied. He is 100% clear at John 17:1-6,26--The one who sent him= Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD-verse 6=YHVH(Jehovah) verse 26= YHVH(Jehovah)
Paul teaches the same-1Cor 8:6-There is ONE God to all the Father.
Your bibles are filled with Catholicism contradictions to fit false council teachings by satans will. Not only contradictions but the removal of Gods name, by satans will, in over 7000 spots is against Gods will. It misleads all who use those translations. Misleads that they will not enter Gods kingdom.
Doug Brents
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JeHoVaH is simply the all consonants YHVH with vowels added to make it an English word. The word is defined as The LORD. It is not the Father's name, but is a title for Him. He calls Himself this many times in Scripture, but just as we cannot see His face, we cannot know His name.LORD was put in the OT by men who had no right, its a title, YHVH is Gods personal name that he put in his bible because he wants it there. Where do you come up with that. Every bible scholar on Earth knows that is his personal name and not the title LORD.
Catholicism=2Thess 2:3) translating makes it look like Jesus is God
If Jesus lied, then He cannot be our savior. Yet we are told that He never sinned, and a lie would be a sin, so He never lied.If Jesus said he was God he would have lied.
Yet He said, "Before Abraham was, I AM." Who is "I AM"? Wasn't that God who called Himself that from the burning bush? Yes! Jesus is claiming to be God (John 8:58). He also claimed to be God
John 10:30: Jesus claimed that he and the Father are one
John 5:17-18: Jesus claimed to be equal with the Father
Matthew 10:40: Jesus claimed that he and God are one in the same
John 8:58: Jesus claimed that “before Abraham was born, I am!”
John 4:25–26: Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he”
Mark 2:23-28: Jesus claimed that he was Lord of the Sabbath
Matthew 11:27, John 14:1-7: Jesus said that the way to the Father is through him
John 14:9: Jesus claimed that whoever saw him saw the Father
John 2:19, 10:17-18: Jesus claimed to have the power to raise himself from the dead
John 2:19-21: Jesus claimed to be replacing the temple
John 17:5: Jesus claimed to share “glory” with God before the world existed
Matthew 25:31-46: Jesus claimed to have the authority to judge the nations, which only God has the authority to do
Jesus cannot be anything other than God, or He does not have the power or authority to be our savior and our faith in Him is in vain (1 Cor 15:14).
The Father is the only God, and the Son is one with the Father, meaning that the Son is equally God just as the Father is God: the same God. If water is the "stuff of life", and ice is just very cold water, and steam is just very warm water, then ice and steam are also the stuff of life, just in a different form. Jesus is God, just as the Father is God, just as the Spirit is God.He is 100% clear at John 17:1-6,26--The one who sent him= Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD-verse 6=YHVH(Jehovah) verse 26= YHVH(Jehovah)
See John 17 comment above.Paul teaches the same-1Cor 8:6-There is ONE God to all the Father.
The catholic cult may have been in control of a lot of what was Christianity form many hundreds of years, but they are not now the only controllers of the original texts from which the Bible is translated. They may also have established many traditions that have been proven to be false. But the fact that Jesus is 100% equal to the Father in deity, glory, power, honor, and authority cannot be doubted. While He was on Earth, He emptied Himself of all of His glory, personal use of His power, and honor, but He did not lose His deity or authority.Your bibles are filled with Catholicism contradictions to fit false council teachings by satans will. Not only contradictions but the removal of Gods name, by satans will, in over 7000 spots is against Gods will. It misleads all who use those translations. Misleads that they will not enter Gods kingdom.
I just explained to you. Its 100% proven fact the tetragramoton( YHWH or YHVH) was in every spot of OT where-GOD or LORD all capitols is by Gods will, replaced by men who had no right. thus YHVH does not mean LORD. Only in confused altered translations that mislead as its doing to you.JeHoVaH is simply the all consonants YHVH with vowels added to make it an English word. The word is defined as The LORD. It is not the Father's name, but is a title for Him. He calls Himself this many times in Scripture, but just as we cannot see His face, we cannot know His name.
If Jesus lied, then He cannot be our savior. Yet we are told that He never sinned, and a lie would be a sin, so He never lied.
Yet He said, "Before Abraham was, I AM." Who is "I AM"? Wasn't that God who called Himself that from the burning bush? Yes! Jesus is claiming to be God (John 8:58). He also claimed to be God
John 10:30: Jesus claimed that he and the Father are one
John 5:17-18: Jesus claimed to be equal with the Father
Matthew 10:40: Jesus claimed that he and God are one in the same
John 8:58: Jesus claimed that “before Abraham was born, I am!”
John 4:25–26: Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he”
Mark 2:23-28: Jesus claimed that he was Lord of the Sabbath
Matthew 11:27, John 14:1-7: Jesus said that the way to the Father is through him
John 14:9: Jesus claimed that whoever saw him saw the Father
John 2:19, 10:17-18: Jesus claimed to have the power to raise himself from the dead
John 2:19-21: Jesus claimed to be replacing the temple
John 17:5: Jesus claimed to share “glory” with God before the world existed
Matthew 25:31-46: Jesus claimed to have the authority to judge the nations, which only God has the authority to do
Jesus cannot be anything other than God, or He does not have the power or authority to be our savior and our faith in Him is in vain (1 Cor 15:14).
The Father is the only God, and the Son is one with the Father, meaning that the Son is equally God just as the Father is God: the same God. If water is the "stuff of life", and ice is just very cold water, and steam is just very warm water, then ice and steam are also the stuff of life, just in a different form. Jesus is God, just as the Father is God, just as the Spirit is God.
See John 17 comment above.
The catholic cult may have been in control of a lot of what was Christianity form many hundreds of years, but they are not now the only controllers of the original texts from which the Bible is translated. They may also have established many traditions that have been proven to be false. But the fact that Jesus is 100% equal to the Father in deity, glory, power, honor, and authority cannot be doubted. While He was on Earth, He emptied Himself of all of His glory, personal use of His power, and honor, but He did not lose His deity or authority.
God's Title has always been in the Greek Text. That Greek Text is copies from what the Apostle wrote. So God's name has been preserved and translated from the Greek Text into many languages across the world. Heretics always think they know better than the Apostles. Only Heretics like JWs believe in a weak God who can't even protect his word.You better relook. It has been proven Gods name was in NT over 200 spots-- Even trinity religions know its fact. The divine name kjv came out in 2015 with Gods name back in the NT. I showed you the 3 sources that prove its truth about Gods name. You best open your heart and pray on the matter.
Doug Brents
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Then please, provide us with the real, authentic, proper original writings of the Old Covenant books that show God's real name. If all the documents that the experts have are altered, please provide us with the unaltered documents upon which you are basing your claim.I just explained to you. Its 100% proven fact the tetragramoton( YHWH or YHVH) was in every spot of OT where-GOD or LORD all capitols is by Gods will, replaced by men who had no right. thus YHVH does not mean LORD. Only in confused altered translations that mislead as its doing to you.
No, my poor deluded friend, the tetragramoton is NOT God's name. But even if it were, it makes no difference to this discussion. Jesus is just as much God as the Father is. Jesus is the I AM! He was with God before Creation, and through Him everything that came into being was made. Nothing that was made was not made by Him. And since He cannot make Himself, He cannot be a created being.
How does one obtain to The righteousness of YahwehHere is a super important truth from Jesus that every true follower knows by heart and don't need to look it up= Matt 6:33-Keep on seeking-FIRST- the kingdom and his( YHVH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)--Accomplished 24/7-365 by a true follower. Otherwise its impossible for them to accomplish this important truth from Jesus-John 4:22-24, Jesus assures every true follower accomplishes that.
I attended different trinity religions-All teach to seek Jesus' righteousness first because they do not listen to Jesus.
Lords prayer=The #1 issue for all involved = his Fathers name( YHVH(Jehovah)
Romans 5:1–11 (LEB) — 1 Therefore, because we have been declared righteous by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we boast in the hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only this, but we also boast in our afflictions, because we know that affliction produces patient endurance, 4 and patient endurance, proven character, and proven character, hope, 5 and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us. 6 For while we were still helpless, yet at the proper time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For only rarely will someone die on behalf of a righteous person (for on behalf of a good person possibly someone might even dare to die), 8 but God demonstrates his own love for us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Therefore, by much more, because we have been declared righteous now by his blood, we will be saved through him from the wrath. 10 For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, by much more, having been reconciled, we will be saved by his life. 11 And not only this, but also we are boasting in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.
The divine name kjv came out 2015 with Gods name in OT-NT from these sources they usedThen please, provide us with the real, authentic, proper original writings of the Old Covenant books that show God's real name. If all the documents that the experts have are altered, please provide us with the unaltered documents upon which you are basing your claim.
No, my poor deluded friend, the tetragramoton is NOT God's name. But even if it were, it makes no difference to this discussion. Jesus is just as much God as the Father is. Jesus is the I AM! He was with God before Creation, and through Him everything that came into being was made. Nothing that was made was not made by Him. And since He cannot make Himself, He cannot be a created being.
1)Scriptures by the institute for scriptural research
2) The exegesis by Herb Jahn
3)New Englishmans Hebrew concordance by George V. Wigram
You will find out different. Look up the facts about the 3 sources i showed you that the divine kjv used and put Gods name back-OT-NT over 7000 places.God's Title has always been in the Greek Text. That Greek Text is copies from what the Apostle wrote. So God's name has been preserved and translated from the Greek Text into many languages across the world. Heretics always think they know better than the Apostles. Only Heretics like JWs believe in a weak God who can't even protect his word.
Jesus' teachings show how-Matt 6:33 is an important one--Matt 7:21--Only those living now to do Jesus' Fathers will get to enter his kingdom-- And that will is- Man does not live by bread alone but by EVERY utterance from God=OT-NT--His real teachers on earth( Matt 24:45) without fail teach Every utterance from God to the flock, it never stops.How does one obtain to The righteousness of Yahweh
Romans 5:1–11 (LEB) — 1 Therefore, because we have been declared righteous by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we boast in the hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only this, but we also boast in our afflictions, because we know that affliction produces patient endurance, 4 and patient endurance, proven character, and proven character, hope, 5 and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us. 6 For while we were still helpless, yet at the proper time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For only rarely will someone die on behalf of a righteous person (for on behalf of a good person possibly someone might even dare to die), 8 but God demonstrates his own love for us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Therefore, by much more, because we have been declared righteous now by his blood, we will be saved through him from the wrath. 10 For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, by much more, having been reconciled, we will be saved by his life. 11 And not only this, but also we are boasting in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.
Do you deny righteousness by faith?Jesus' teachings show how-Matt 6:33 is an important one--Matt 7:21--Only those living now to do Jesus' Fathers will get to enter his kingdom-- And that will is- Man does not live by bread alone but by EVERY utterance from God=OT-NT--His real teachers on earth( Matt 24:45) without fail teach Every utterance from God to the flock, it never stops.
Romans 5:1–11 (LEB) — 1 Therefore, because we have been declared righteous by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we boast in the hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only this, but we also boast in our afflictions, because we know that affliction produces patient endurance, 4 and patient endurance, proven character, and proven character, hope, 5 and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us. 6 For while we were still helpless, yet at the proper time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For only rarely will someone die on behalf of a righteous person (for on behalf of a good person possibly someone might even dare to die), 8 but God demonstrates his own love for us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Therefore, by much more, because we have been declared righteous now by his blood, we will be saved through him from the wrath. 10 For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, by much more, having been reconciled, we will be saved by his life. 11 And not only this, but also we are boasting in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation
In every false religion on earth they have faith--they will all lose. The bible speaks of the real God and real Jesus-FEW know them.Do you deny righteousness by faith?
Romans 5:1–11 (LEB) — 1 Therefore, because we have been declared righteous by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we boast in the hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only this, but we also boast in our afflictions, because we know that affliction produces patient endurance, 4 and patient endurance, proven character, and proven character, hope, 5 and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us. 6 For while we were still helpless, yet at the proper time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For only rarely will someone die on behalf of a righteous person (for on behalf of a good person possibly someone might even dare to die), 8 but God demonstrates his own love for us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Therefore, by much more, because we have been declared righteous now by his blood, we will be saved through him from the wrath. 10 For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, by much more, having been reconciled, we will be saved by his life. 11 And not only this, but also we are boasting in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation
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