What is an "idol"?

[praise_yeshua]

I think you're catching on. So nothing in the Bible says Jesus was prayed to nor are there any teachings to pray to him. Question for you then, since you don't receive your authority from God, Jesus, the prophets, apostles, or scripture then you receive your authority from your daddy Satan. That's why your prayers are failures. You don't know how to pray or who to pray to because you reject the truth.

You repeatedly ignore most of what I challenge you with. You're like a little child that Jesus referenced.

Mat 11:16 But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows,
Mat 11:17 And saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned unto you, and ye have not lamented.
Mat 11:18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.
Mat 11:19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

You can't tell me that my prayers are being answered. I asked Jesus all the time for things and He answers me. I'm no different than those who asked Him when He walked the face of this earth. He just isn't here at the moment. When He returns, you'll bow. You get to know Him personally. You can tell Him to His face what you've been telling me.

We'll see who is approved and who isn't.

You have not authority. I have embarrassed you. You should be embarrassed. Whatever followers you have, bring them here. We can talk to them about you. I bet they'll change their minds about you very quickly.

Elijah, you're not. The greatest among men did something you refuse to do yourself.

Joh 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
Joh 3:31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.
Joh 3:32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.
Joh 3:33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.
Joh 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
Joh 3:35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
Joh 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

You're not even worth bowing to touch His dirty shoes.

Mar 1:7 And preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose.
Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

 

[Runningman]

You repeatedly ignore most of what I challenge you with. You're like a little child that Jesus referenced.

Mat 11:16 But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows,
Mat 11:17 And saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned unto you, and ye have not lamented.
Mat 11:18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.
Mat 11:19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

You can't tell me that my prayers are being answered. I asked Jesus all the time for things and He answers me. I'm no different than those who asked Him when He walked the face of this earth. He just isn't here at the moment. When He returns, you'll bow. You get to know Him personally. You can tell Him to His face what you've been telling me.

We'll see who is approved and who isn't.

You have not authority. I have embarrassed you. You should be embarrassed. Whatever followers you have, bring them here. We can talk to them about you. I bet they'll change their minds about you very quickly.

Elijah, you're not. The greatest among men did something you refuse to do yourself.

Joh 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
Joh 3:31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.
Joh 3:32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.
Joh 3:33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.
Joh 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
Joh 3:35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
Joh 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

You're not even worth bowing to touch His dirty shoes.

Mar 1:7 And preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose.
Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

Scripture refutes your arrogant boasting.

2 Corinthians 8
18For it is not the one who commends himself who is approved, but the one whom the Lord commends.

At some point, you just need to get embarrassed when you fail and learn from your mistakes. Perhaps a personal great tribulation is what you need to wake up.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Scripture refutes your arrogant boasting.

2 Corinthians 8
18For it is not the one who commends himself who is approved, but the one whom the Lord commends.

At some point, you just need to get embarrassed when you fail and learn from your mistakes. Perhaps a personal great tribulation is what you need to wake up.

Every man that claims God suffers for Christ. You're not defending Jesus Christ. I am. You refuse to even talk to Jesus when He is the Only one that you have access to.

 

[Runningman]

Every man that claims God suffers for Christ. You're not defending Jesus Christ. I am. You refuse to even talk to Jesus when He is the Only one that you have access to.

I am defending Jesus as the human God made Lord and Christ. You are putting him somewhere where he doesn't belong which is an afront to the Father.

 

[praise_yeshua]

I am defending Jesus as the human God made Lord and Christ. You are putting him somewhere where he doesn't belong which is an afront to the Father.

Not being a father yourself, limits your understanding of how a Father and Son operate.

Let me guess. You're a lesser man than your father yourself. I bet you love that idea right?

 

[Runningman]

Not being a father yourself, limits your understanding of how a Father and Son operate.

Let me guess. You're a lesser man than your father yourself. I bet you love that idea right?

In the Bible, no one is equal to God because if what you are saying were true, it would apply to others. You keep forgetting that Jesus isn't the only son of God, isn't the only one who did miracles, isn't the only one who will be resurrected, or receive eternal life. Jesus is the prime example of what God expects out of His children and Jesus' brothers.

 

[praise_yeshua]

In the Bible, no one is equal to God because if what you are saying were true, it would apply to others. You keep forgetting that Jesus isn't the only son of God, isn't the only one who did miracles, isn't the only one who will be resurrected, or receive eternal life. Jesus is the prime example of what God expects out of His children and Jesus' brothers.

Good. I'm glad you said that.
Now can we talk about all the things Jesus did that these "other people" didn't do?

Can you deal with the fact you're a lesser man than your father. Are you a lesser man than Jesus Christ?

 

[civic]

An idol is a false god so the uni Christ qualifies as an idol.

hope this helps !!!

 

[Runningman]

Good. I'm glad you said that.
Now can we talk about all the things Jesus did that these "other people" didn't do?

Can you deal with the fact you're a lesser man than your father. Are you a lesser man than Jesus Christ?

Sure, go ahead and show what you think he did that others couldn't.

 

[Runningman]

An idol is a false god so the uni Christ qualifies as an idol.

hope this helps !!!

John 17:3 and 1 Corinthians 8:6 are your enemies and soundly refute your accusations.

 

[civic]

John 17:3 and 1 Corinthians 8:6 are your enemies and soundly refute your accusations.

they affirm God is Plural

 

[Runningman]

they affirm God is Plural

No they do not.

 

[civic]

No they do not.

Scripture sure does.


Gen 1:26
Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;

Gen 3:22
Then the Lord God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil;

Gen 11:7
Come, let Us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other."

Gen 19:24
Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;

Isa 6:8
Then I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, "Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us?

Isa 48:16
"Come near to Me, listen to this:
From the first I have not spoken in secret,
From the time it took place, I was there.
And now the Lord God has sent Me, and His Spirit."

Isa 61:1
The Spirit of the Lord God is upon Me,
Because the Lord has anointed Me
To bring good news to the afflicted;
He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
To proclaim liberty to captives
And freedom to prisoners;

Ps 110:1
The Lord says to my Lord:
"Sit at My right hand
Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet."


Zech 12:10
"And I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him, like the bitter weeping over a first-born.

hope this helps !!!

 

[Runningman]

Scripture sure does.


Gen 1:26
Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;

Gen 3:22
Then the Lord God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil;

Gen 11:7
Come, let Us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other."

Gen 19:24
Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;

Isa 6:8
Then I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, "Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us?

Isa 48:16
"Come near to Me, listen to this:
From the first I have not spoken in secret,
From the time it took place, I was there.
And now the Lord God has sent Me, and His Spirit."

Isa 61:1
The Spirit of the Lord God is upon Me,
Because the Lord has anointed Me
To bring good news to the afflicted;
He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
To proclaim liberty to captives
And freedom to prisoners;

Ps 110:1
The Lord says to my Lord:
"Sit at My right hand
Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet."


Zech 12:10
"And I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him, like the bitter weeping over a first-born.

hope this helps !!!

Nothing there identifies God as more than one person because it doesn't identify who the "us" is. We know based on the thousands of other examples that God identified Himself as a singular person. I am sure God is smart enough to not confused the pants off of everyone.

Why do you suppose God never called Himself an "us" or a "we" or and why do you think no one every referred to God as a they or them? It's because God isn't a trinity.