101G
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ok, you said the LAMB sits on the throne also with the Father.... (smile). so please tell us how the Lamb that is sitting on the throne is also standing before the throne? well .... your answer please.
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Trinitarianism verses Modalism debate
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if you're speaking of Revelation 4:2 "And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne."
101G is so glad you pointed that out for the word "ONE" is Italicized meaning it's not in the transcript. but listen to the very next verse, Revelation 4:3 "And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald."
well now, "he" is in the transcript..... (smile), LOL, LOL, LOL, and he is ONE PERSON. so that's MISTAKE 3 and 4 now, because that eliminates your two, and it eliminates your Lamb sitting on the THRONE, which you have not yet explained.
see you just keep digging yourself into a deeper hole...... (smile).... now ... please explain how the Lamb standing takes the book out of the hand who sits on the throne?
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@TomL & @civic
well now you fellas have stepped into the UNKOWN .... LOST. but 101G will not let you fellas stay lost. listen the Lamb that have the sevens Spirits of God is sent forth into all the EARTH..... is that not the Holy Spirit who was sent? Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." the Lamb now sitting on the throne, and standing before the throne is now sent forth into ALL THE EARTH..... Oh my, the mystery thickens. now, 101G has the answers, but it's up to you fellas to decide to stay in darkness or come to the LIGHT..... your choice.
101G ..... (smile).
did 101G give too much of a clue? ......
well now you fellas have stepped into the UNKOWN .... LOST. but 101G will not let you fellas stay lost. listen the Lamb that have the sevens Spirits of God is sent forth into all the EARTH..... is that not the Holy Spirit who was sent? Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." the Lamb now sitting on the throne, and standing before the throne is now sent forth into ALL THE EARTH..... Oh my, the mystery thickens. now, 101G has the answers, but it's up to you fellas to decide to stay in darkness or come to the LIGHT..... your choice.
101G ..... (smile).
did 101G give too much of a clue? ......
praise_yeshua
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@TomL & @civic
well now you fellas have stepped into the UNKOWN .... LOST. but 101G will not let you fellas stay lost. listen the Lamb that have the sevens Spirits of God is sent forth into all the EARTH..... is that not the Holy Spirit who was sent? Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." the Lamb now sitting on the throne, and standing before the throne is now sent forth into ALL THE EARTH..... Oh my, the mystery thickens. now, 101G has the answers, but it's up to you fellas to decide to stay in darkness or come to the LIGHT..... your choice.
101G ..... (smile).
did 101G give too much of a clue? ......
So the human being Jesus Christ has seven horns and seven eyes?
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yes, the RESURRECTED or NEW MAN. listen, Matthew 28:18 "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth." Horns is symbolic for POWER, and EYES are all KNOWING, and in sevens that God almighty, and being in Heaven and earth that Omni present.
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@praise_yeshua,
is not Jesus the Christ the "ARM" of God in Flesh? .... see Isaiah 63:5, yes "HIS" OWN, OWN, OWN, ARM.... meaning POWER.
the term "OWN" means POSSESSION. as the scriptures states, he POSSESSED me in the beginning. and that POSSESSION is expressed in "MY" as in MY Father, MY Spirit which art in heaven or MY Son, MY Body that art on Earth.
101G
is not Jesus the Christ the "ARM" of God in Flesh? .... see Isaiah 63:5, yes "HIS" OWN, OWN, OWN, ARM.... meaning POWER.
the term "OWN" means POSSESSION. as the scriptures states, he POSSESSED me in the beginning. and that POSSESSION is expressed in "MY" as in MY Father, MY Spirit which art in heaven or MY Son, MY Body that art on Earth.
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praise_yeshua
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You seem to be appealing to an literal application of these "horns and eyes". Yet, you're rightfully recognize the fact that they are symbolic.
Can I ask why?
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praise_yeshua
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An idom.
praise_yeshua
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Are you what some people reference as "Jesus Only"?
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No, .... (smile). "Diversified Oneness", just as the Lord and his apostles, and disciples taught.
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Common sense would have told you that these are not the same. Listen and Learn. the English term "ANOTHER" has two Greek meaning. G243 Allos and G2087 heteros have a difference in meaning, which despite a tendency to be lost, is to be observed in numerous passages. Allos expresses a numerical difference and denotes another of the same sort;" heteros expresses a qualitative difference and denotes "another of a different sort.
please understand the two GREEK meaning. my source is the Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words
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praise_yeshua
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Scriptures contain idioms.
praise_yeshua
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I vaguely remember. I did "Google" the reference and one of the top returns is the topic you posted here about a year ago. I don't believe anyone understood that you're trying to express. I'll try to make sense of it.
If the number "100" represents God, what part of God is represented in Christ?
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yes, but the "ARM" of God is a scriptural fact in MEAMING and ATTRIBUT. example... an "ARM" of Flesh. scripture, 2 Chronicles 32:7 "Be strong and courageous, be not afraid nor dismayed for the king of Assyria, nor for all the multitude that is with him: for there be more with us than with him:" 2 Chronicles 32:8 "With him is an arm of flesh; but with us is the LORD our God to help us, and to fight our battles. And the people rested themselves upon the words of Hezekiah king of Judah."
if you read the chapter, this ARM of flesh was Sennacherib king of Assyria ARMY.... his MIGHT/POWER.
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here is the sense for understanding. Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
'see that term "Offspring" it is the Greek word,
G1085 γένος genos (ǰe'-nos) n.
kin.
{abstract or concrete, literal or figurative, individual or collective}
[from G1096]
KJV: born, country(-man), diversity, generation, kind(-red), nation, offspring, stock
Root(s): G1096
and this "diversified" KINsman, or the KINSMAN REDEEMER is seen in several places in the OT, for example, Zechariah 13:7 "Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones." the man that's God's FELLOW?
Fellow: H5997 עָמִית `amiyth (aw-meeth') n-m.
1. companionship.
2. (hence, concretely) a comrade or kindred man.
[from a primitive root meaning to associate]
KJV: another, fellow, neighbour.
there he is, kindred man as in KINSMAN REDEEMER... the " another" of God in flesh .... Equally Shared. BINGO.
there are many other example in both the OT and NT
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@TomL & @civic
Please understand, 101G is trying to help you. ... ok. putting all aside, let discuss in earnest. the one who sits on the throne (who is the) Lord Jesus, as the resurrected man who was G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') while in natural flesh. one who was EMPTYED, in the ECHAD of the equal share. and he was "GIVEN" all POWER" in the resurrection. this is why the knowing as to who sits on the throne is important. 101G suggest that we start there and understand the true meaning of the "ARM" of God in new light. for it will answer many questions.
101G.
Please understand, 101G is trying to help you. ... ok. putting all aside, let discuss in earnest. the one who sits on the throne (who is the) Lord Jesus, as the resurrected man who was G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') while in natural flesh. one who was EMPTYED, in the ECHAD of the equal share. and he was "GIVEN" all POWER" in the resurrection. this is why the knowing as to who sits on the throne is important. 101G suggest that we start there and understand the true meaning of the "ARM" of God in new light. for it will answer many questions.
101G.
praise_yeshua
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The Greek word in Zechariah 13:7 = πολίτης
Strong's distinction = G4177
It also found 3 times in the NT. In the KJV it is translated as "citizen".
Luk 19:14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.
Luk 19:15 And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.
"country man" is an acceptable alternative. I have no idea how "diversity" has anything to do with it.
Can you elaborate?
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I have no idea how "diversity" has anything to do with it. ANSWER, "Diversity" describes the G243 NUMERICAL DIFFERENCE/Another of the ECHAD of God in flesh and bones. his OWN ARM shared in Flesh, or a Body. understand now?
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