Trinitarianism verses Modalism debate

Revelation 5:13 (KJV 1900) — 13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
is this the Father sitting on the throne, and the Lord Jesus/thye Lamb standing before the throne? yes or no.

101G
 
well fine, just answer the question, is it the Father as you say that is sitting on the throne? yes or no.

101G
no its both the Father and the Son on the One throne. :)

we have been down this road before several times. :)
 
no its both the Father and the Son on the One throne. :)
your first BIG ERROR of the DAY, listen, Revelation 4:2 "And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne."

only ONE SITS on the THRONE. so try again.

101G.
 
Yep the Father and the son are distinguished from one another.
Yes just like husband and wife
mother and daughter
sister and brother
Christ and the church
the sun and the moon
Monday from Tuesday
9am from 10am
day from night
hour and minute

and so on and so forth.

common sense 101. :)
 
good then so your scripture that require two "MEN" do not apply. so, YOUR FIRST ERROR of the DAY.

101G.
The word man has an extended use to denote a person

You cannot escape the fact Jesus employed this argument to prove his point

Were the father and the son one person then he would have no argument
 
Yes just like husband and wife
mother and daughter
sister and brother
Christ and the church
the sun and the moon
Monday from Tuesday
9am from 10am
day from night
hour and minute

and so on and so forth.

common sense 101. :)
well good then. just answer the question, "Is this the Father who sits on the throne" yes or NO?

101G
 
The word man has an extended use to denote a person
it do. and the question 101G ask proves it. LISTEN, for last time, "is it the Father the one who sits on the throne?", yes or NO, this will prove if God your Father is a Man or NOT

101G
 
good then so your scripture that require two "MEN" do not apply. so, YOUR FIRST ERROR of the DAY.

101G.
Wrong and already addressed

The word anthropos has an extended meaning of person

Your problem is with Jesus who was arguing for two witness not one

as your theology would require
 
it do. and the question 101G ask proves it. LISTEN, for last time, "is it the Father the one who sits on the throne?", yes or NO, this will prove if God your Father is a Man or NOT

101G
The father and the lamb are both on the throne
 
your first BIG ERROR of the DAY, listen, Revelation 4:2 "And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne."

only ONE SITS on the THRONE. so try again.

101G.
Keep reading

Revelation 5:1–6 (KJV 1900) — 1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. 2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? 3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. 4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. 5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. 6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

And BTW the word one does not appear in the Greek text
 
Wrong and already addressed

The word anthropos has an extended meaning of person

Your problem is with Jesus who was arguing for two witness not one

as your theology would require
now you're disqualified, you cannot answer who sits on the throne, so you no longer can qualify for reply.

now if you can tell us who is the ONE person who sits on the throne then you can qualify for a response. until then radio silence for you.... (smile)

101G.
 
The father and the lamb are both on the throne
well then who stand before the throne...... the LAMB yes, so tell us how the Lamb both sit and stand before the throne? .... (smile)... well? your answer please.

101G
 
@civic ,
it has been said, that the Lamb sits on the throne, and stand before the throne, can you also answer this for us also? looking to hear your answer.

101G
 
well then who stand before the throne...... the LAMB yes, so tell us how the Lamb both sit and stand before the throne? .... (smile)... well? your answer please.

101G
scripture

Revelation 5:1–6 (KJV 1900) — 1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. 2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? 3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. 4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. 5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. 6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
 
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