Titus 3 order of salvation

Yes genuine faith results in repentance and obedience, fruit and good works are the result.

Well, yes, the Holy Spirit will propel a believer to be faithful to Him. The question though is how much after salvation works are you going to tie to salvation itself? If it is 100 percent Jesus saving you and not yourself.. then the measure of the salvation surely isn't the works they are doing after conversion.. but whether they purely and simply believed on the Lord Jesus Christ.
 
Well, yes, the Holy Spirit will propel a believer to be faithful to Him. The question though is how much after salvation works are you going to tie to salvation itself? If it is 100 percent Jesus saving you and not yourself.. then the measure of the salvation surely isn't the works they are doing after conversion.. but whether they purely and simply believed on the Lord Jesus Christ.
I believe salvation is synergistic, not monergistic. There is human responsibility with faith and obedience.
 
I believe salvation is synergistic, not monergistic. There is human responsibility with faith and obedience.

Well I'm not monergestic in the sense of being saved before you believe like a Calvinist.. but before conversion there is nothing effort wise we can do to gain salvation because we are still tainted before salvation. It's gotta be Jesus convicting us and then we accept that.. not us committing to a set of behaviours.
 
Well I'm not monergestic in the sense of being saved before you believe like a Calvinist.. but before conversion there is nothing effort wise we can do to gain salvation because we are still tainted before salvation. It's gotta be Jesus convicting us and then we accept that.. not us committing to a set of behaviours.
Agreed as Gods grace always precedes our coming to Him in faith and repentance
 
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