Thomas... My Lord and my God

Peterlag said:
The Catholics do not believe the son of God was resurrected.
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After his Resurrection, Jesus' divine sonship becomes manifest in the power of his glorified humanity. He was "designated Son of God in power according to the Spirit of holiness by his Resurrection from the dead". The apostles can confess: "We have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth."

Part One Section Two I. The Creeds Chapter Two I Believe In Jesus Christ, The Only Son Of God Article 2 And In Jesus Christ, His Only Son, Our Lord III. The Only Son Of God

www.vatican.va www.vatican.va


Thanks for making this easy for me.
 
Fred said:
After his Resurrection, Jesus' divine sonship becomes manifest in the power of his glorified humanity. He was "designated Son of God in power according to the Spirit of holiness by his Resurrection from the dead". The apostles can confess: "We have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth."

Part One Section Two I. The Creeds Chapter Two I Believe In Jesus Christ, The Only Son Of God Article 2 And In Jesus Christ, His Only Son, Our Lord III. The Only Son Of God

www.vatican.va www.vatican.va


Thanks for making this easy for me.
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The Catholics do not believe in the Christ and neither do you. Both of you believe in God and thing Jesus is God. And by the way, the Catholics mostly have Jesus either a baby or dying on the cross and that's where they want him... in the most defeated position.
 
Fred said:
That applies to you and your demonic "jesus."

Thanks again for making this easy for me. You assert things that you are so terribly wrong and foolish.
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It is rather ludicrous for someone to say that 99% of Christians are wrong and that only his view makes people right with God. That is a sure indicator of his bad thinking process or argumentation skills.
Also, that view takes a rather negative sense of God's ability to reach people and change their lives.
 
Could someone please explain to me how a man who doesn't even obey Hebrews 10:25 - to regularly meet and fellowship with other believers and to facilitate Christ's command to "love one another" - should even be listened to? Much less should we be "taught" by him.

Paul said "Reject a factious man after a first and second warning, knowing that such a man is perverted and is sinning, being self-condemned." Titus 3:10-11

Peterlag has been warned countless times. Paul says "reject him" until such time as he actually repents.

If someone says, 'I love God', and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen." 1 John 4:20

It's no wonder he has been kicked out of churches before.
 
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Selah said:
Sure there is; right here:

Revelation 1:11-18 (NKJV) 11 saying, “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last,” and, “What you see, write in a book and send [it] to the seven churches which are in Asia: to Ephesus, to Smyrna, to Pergamos, to Thyatira, to Sardis, to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea.” 12 Then I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands, 13 and in the midst of the seven lampstands [One] like the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to the feet and girded about the chest with a golden band. 14 His head and hair [were] white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes like a flame of fire; 15 His feet [were] like fine brass, as if refined in a furnace, and His voice as the sound of many waters; 16 He had in His right hand seven stars, out of His mouth went a sharp two-edged sword, and His countenance [was] like the sun shining in its strength. 17 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. 18 “I [am] He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.
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And other places also prove this .
Remember long long ago before any of us were anywhere near to be born into this world ,
JESUS walked the earth .
And to the House of israel FIRST was HE sent .
The sheep heard . but many who were not the sheep did not hear .
They even asked HIM , HEY man if you ARE THE CHRIST just tell us PLAINLY .
HE said , I HAVE but you have beleived me not .
Quite interesting huh . HE had been . His words and his works PROVED HIM TO BE THE CHRIST
and the sheep received him .
WHY did i bring this up .
cause now we have us a peter lag always going around
saying show me where JESUS said such a thing
SHOW ME where it even says such a thing in the scrips .
AND I SAY , THE WORDS PROVE IT . but he cannot see because his mind has been twisted
to see what men taught him NOT THE WORDS which would have easily have proven .
THERE IS ONLY ONE I KNOW that ever once said I AM ALPHA and omega .
DID YOU EVER See an angel say that . DID YOU ever see an apostel , or a prophet . NO .
BUT GOD SAID IT . BEFORE ME there as no GOD nor shall they be after me .
I AM the ALPHA and OMEGA , the first and the last .
JESUS said that too . AINT THAT SOMETHING . THE WORD did become flesh .
THE WORD was in the BEGINNING and all things made were made BY HIM .
THE WORD was GOD . peterlag is BLIND and i do fear for him .
THE PROOF of WHO IS WHO , IS ALL OVER the place in that bible . THE WORDS prove
but many twisted the words to fit what men taught . not loooking good at all .
 
Fred said:
They believe in the resurrection of Jesus.

Get your facts straight.
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This is the problem my friend . Peterlag knows not the TRUTH .
Nor does he seem to understand that even a broke clock can be right twice a day .
To those who do discern the truth
they do not throw out the baby with the filthy water .
THEY KNOW what is true , they just flee what is false .
MANY KNOW THIS ONE THING . the truth they doctrine of men told and taught them
was the TRUTH . but friend as you can see , BOY has that caused a ton of problems indeed .
SO allow me a saying .
ALL MEN must always be tested , ONLY TRUTH to be accepted and the lie and lies to be fled from .
AND HOW i do know of a book that often collects dust
that often IS TWISTED with a cherry pickers love
YET HAD ONE JUST ENJOYED and READ IT , wow what a wonderful thing could have occurred .
SO allow this man two words to remind us all about .
BIBLE TIME .
 
dwight92070 said:
There is not one verse that says Jesus is not God the Son. Nor has there ever been a teaching on it anywhere in the Bible. A teaching... a whole paragraph or chapter. The Jews never saw it anywhere in the entire Old Testament nor anyone in the New Testament ever taught it. Unitarians piece together statements that are scattered all over the Bible. They basically use bits and pieces of words and half verses along with their own human reasoning, imagination, speculation and assumptions as they pick one verse here, and another verse there, a hint here, and a clue there, and then they construct their "own God" which is the product of their own human thinking. This is why they cannot present one single biblical verse that clearly teaches that we should believe or confess that Jesus is not God.
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Maybe, just maybe, it is a result of them not wanting JESUS to be of God from God and One with His FATHER who is GOD.
 
DavidTree said:
Well you circumvent your own attempt to understand
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What it is that i so often love to remind us about .
The sheep hear the voice of the great shepard
but man does as man does .
sheep do and beleive as JESUS said .
Allow a reminder my friend .
There once walked a man who was sent to the lost sheep of the house of israel first
And spoke and taught he did , said many things , done many works .
The sheep said things like , COME we have found the one spoken of by moses
but the others said things like
IF YE BE THE CHRIST WHY NOT JUST TELL US PLAINLY
TO which JESUS said , I HAVE but you have not heard me .
I HAVE . said JESUS . AND INDEED HE HAD . IT WAS HIS WORDS and WORKS that PROVED HIM TO BE THE CHRIST
but the blind could not see , hear , HIS WORDS nor regaurded his works .
WHY DID I Bring this up .
WELL , THANKS for possibly asking .
HERE is why i brought it up . WE gots folks like peter lag saying
WHEN DID JESUS EVER ONCE say this
WHEN
TO which i say this , LOOK AT HIS WORDS real closely
AND YOU WILL SEE what is clearly being said , well the sheep do anyway .
I SEEN HIS WORDS
AND me oh my HOW they mirror the WORDS OF GOD ALL MIGHTY HIMSELF .
JESUS did not say that he just knew TRUTH . BUT THAT HE IS THE TRUTH .
HE did not say that i can just give life , BUT THAT I AM THE LIFE .
No angel ever dared , no prophet ever dared , no apostel ever dared
TO SAY and to cliam the very TITLES JESUS DID . which DO INCLUDE I AM ALPHA and OMEGA , FIRST and the last .
AND TRUTH ALWAYS CONFIRMS TRUTH .
THUS it is also written IN the BEGINNING was THE WORD , that WORD created all things
and without HIM was not anything made . MAN that sounds just like GOD dont it .
THEN it even goes on to say , THE WORD WAS GOD . see scrip dont contradict scrip
BUT ACCORDING TO PETER LAG HIS IDEALS SURE DO CONTRADICT SCRIP and twists things
to support , A FAT LIE .
 
DavidTree said:
and His virgin birth

and His claim of coming down from Above/the FATHER

Let's just say that most catholics 'acknowledge' these things from catechism

Heart belief in Christ's Blood Atonement on the Cross and His Resurrection is that which Saves us, no matter your denomination
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heart belief would , but a heart that truly believes IN JESUS THE CHRIST
IN his death and ressurection
WELL IT HAD ALSO BELIEVED HIS WORDS .
MANY are as i once was , they can lip but do NOT KNOW .
 
DavidTree said:
Maybe, just maybe, it is a result of them not wanting JESUS to be of God from God and One with His FATHER who is GOD.
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actually this is not a maybe, ITS a fact .
BUT now for the real question . NOW WHY IS THAT do ya think .
JESUS was exposing something they so loved .
THAT IS WHY . They loved sin , they loved the glory of men , they loved the worship and titles
They loved the praise of men . AND the sheep were being taken from them .
THEY LOVED the following of men . they loved the pre emince of men , they loved sin
and played the hyprocrite . But JESUS was taking peoples from them
ENVY . oh me oh my that sure can lead to murder .
ENVIOUS of men , of their worship ,
THEY HAD ZERO LOVE FOR GOD , their love WAS FOR THEMSELVES .
 
DavidTree said:
Yepper
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Do it remind you of other places .
I know a HO that has much influence over many peoples .
WHO desires all the premience , desires all the praise of men
THE HO EVEN CLAIMS SHE HOLDS THE KEYS to SALVATION .
rather odd , What she do is SHE claims to hold the keys , SHE HERSELF has not ENTERED INTO
and does all to HINDER ANYONE from doing so .
JUST like JESUS said himself about the jewish leadership . MAMA NEVER DIED .
 
Tothalordbeallglory said:
Do it remind you of other places .
I know a HO that has much influence over many peoples .
WHO desires all the premience , desires all the praise of men
THE HO EVEN CLAIMS SHE HOLDS THE KEYS to SALVATION .
rather odd , What she do is SHE claims to hold the keys , SHE HERSELF has not ENTERED INTO
and does all to HINDER ANYONE from doing so .
JUST like JESUS said himself about the jewish leadership . MAMA NEVER DIED .
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rather odd , What she do is SHE claims to hold the keys
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Last time i checked only ONE holds those keys and the ONE is a HE and called the Word of God

SHE HERSELF has not ENTERED INTO
and does all to HINDER ANYONE from doing so .
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sounds familiar...........................pharisees
 

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