The so-called "atonement" is recycled pagan "blood magic"

[Diserner]

And when my co-worker who is an unbelievers sins where is Gods wrath against them ? They got a raise for sinning against me, taken out to lunch and celebrated. How is that Gods wrath ? It looks more like a reward, a blessing.

But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, (Rom. 2:5 NKJ)

Also do you sin ? where is Gods wrath ?

On the Cross. "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?" (Matt. 27:46 NKJ)

 

[civic]

The first thing to understand is that God's wrath was on people KjV Ex 20:24.
This answers your second question:KJV Ex 20:24

Did you read the first quote you posted Acts 2:23 Whose plan was it for Jesus to die? Whose plan delivered him up?

Plan and wrath are not the same thing you are equivocating

 

[civic]

But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, (Rom. 2:5 NKJ)



On the Cross. "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?" (Matt. 27:46 NKJ)

Yep unbelievers who reject the gospel who are enemies of Christ. Still no wrath on the righteous in scripture only on the ungodly , wicked , God haters , reprobates etc…

 

[sethproton]

Plan and wrath are not the same thing you are equivocating

of course if I plan to send your familly to Disneyland that plan is different if I plan to murder another family all in their beds.
So of course wrath and plan are different concepts.

God had the plan to subject Jesus to His wrath. It has been stated oner and over that God planned what happend to Jesus. He was behind it.
YOu have a doctrinal fault if you deny God planned the cross

 

[sethproton]

Besides this response being unreasonable, you did not adresss the three scripture I gave you.
Making a wild, irrational post instead of an actual response shows you have no answers.

 

[civic]

of course if I plan to send your familly to Disneyland that plan is different if I plan to murder another family all in their beds.
So of course wrath and plan are different concepts.

God had the plan to subject Jesus to His wrath. It has been stated oner and over that God planned what happend to Jesus. He was behind it.
YOu have a doctrinal fault if you deny God planned the cross

No plan from the Father to the Son pouring wrath on Him. That’s nothing but a misnomer perpetuated by people who don’t understand God and the atonement. God is not angry with God. It’s an oxymoron.

 

[civic]

Besides this response being unreasonable, you did not adresss the three scripture I gave you.
Making a wild, irrational post instead of an actual response shows you have no answers.

What 3 scriptures? Post them here and I will respond or link me to them. Thanks!

 

[sethproton]

What 3 scriptures? Post them here and I will respond or link me to them. Thanks!

too far back. i don't what they were anymore