The Nature of God in the Atonement

This scripture shows that the people He died for, He purified them of their sins, that's Justification from sin. That word purified/purged is the greek word katharismos:
  1. a cleansing from the guilt of sins wrought by the expiatory sacrifice of Christ

They have no guilt of sin charged to them because of His Great sacrifice.
The point here was the deification of the son.

Hebrews 1:1–8 (LEB) — 1 Although God spoke long ago in many parts and in many ways to the fathers by the prophets, 2 in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the world, 3 who is the radiance of his glory and the representation of his essence, sustaining all things by the word of power. When he had made purification for sins through him, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4 having become by so much better than the angels, by as much as he has inherited a more excellent name than theirs. 5 For to which of the angels did he ever say, “You are my son, today I have begotten you,” and again, “I will be his father, and he will be my son”? 6 And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says, “And let all the angels of God worship him.” 7 And concerning the angels he says, “The one who makes his angels winds, and his servants a flame of fire,” 8 but concerning the Son, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of righteous is the scepter of your kingdom.

But he does remove the guilt of sin for those who believe in him.
 
Just out of curiosity, do you believe in substitutionary atonement?

Do you believe Christ suffered the punishment for what your sins deserved?

I actually find that far more important than the Trinity in fact.
I do, but if I may ask, what do you believe the punishment that sin deserves is?
 
So at least you believe in the deity of Christ?
Im not sure you do, since you seem to believe His Death accomplished no more than animal sacrifices which didn't and couldn't take away sin. His Death for sin took it away for His elect and so He sat down with the work finished. Thats why Hebrews starts out this way to emphasize His superior accomplishments because of His superior personage.
 
Um

Philippians 2:5–6 (KJV 1900) — 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

The subject here is the mind of Christ and equality with God. Nowhere is it suggested the Philippians should think themselves equal with God

John 5:18 (LEB) — 18 So on account of this the Jews were seeking even more to kill him, because he not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God his own Father, thus making himself equal with God

Here once again equality with God is the issue

John 1:1 (LEB) — 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

John 20:28 (LEB) — 28 Thomas answered and said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

Acts 20:27–28 (KJV 1900) — 27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. 28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Philippians 2:5–6 (KJV 1900) — 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God

Romans 9:5 (LEB) — 5 to whom belong the patriarchs, and from whom is the Christ according to human descent, who is God over all, blessed forever! Amen.

Titus 2:13 (LEB) — 13 looking forward to the blessed hope and the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Hebrews 1:8–9 (LEB) — 8 but concerning the Son, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of righteous is the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; because of this God, your God, has anointed you with the olive oil of joy more than your companions.

2 Peter 1:1 (LEB) — 1 Simeon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained a faith equal in value to ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Titus 2:13 (LEB) — 13 looking forward to the blessed hope and the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Isaiah 9:6 (LEB) — 6 For a child has been born for us; a son has been given to us. And the dominion will be on his shoulder, and his name is called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Jesus denied equality with God and he is not

John 14​
28You heard Me say, ‘I am going away, and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, because the Father is greater than I.
Mark 3​
32No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

If Jesus is God then he cannot be the same God as The God since he distinguishes himself from God:

John 20​
17“Do not cling to Me,” Jesus said, “for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go and tell My brothers, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God.’”
Revelation 3​
12The one who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will never again leave it. Upon him I will write the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God (the new Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven from My God), and My new name.​

Jesus was sent, not self-existent:

John 17​
3Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.
John 13​
16Truly, truly, I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.

Jesus is dependent on and obedient to God, proving that he is not equal with Go. Jesus is eternally subordinate to God:

Hebrews 5​
8Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from what He suffered. 9And having been made perfect, He became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey Him​
1 Corinthians 15​
27For “God has put everything under His feet.” Now when it says that everything has been put under Him, this clearly does not include the One who put everything under Him. 28And when all things have been subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will be made subject to Him who put all things under Him, so that God may be all in all.

Jesus is a mediator, not God Himself:
1 Timothy 2​
5For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
 
Jesus denied equality with God and he is not

John 14​
28You heard Me say, ‘I am going away, and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, because the Father is greater than I.
Mark 3​
32No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

If Jesus is God then he cannot be the same God as The God since he distinguishes himself from God:

John 20​
17“Do not cling to Me,” Jesus said, “for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go and tell My brothers, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God.’”
Revelation 3​
12The one who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will never again leave it. Upon him I will write the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God (the new Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven from My God), and My new name.​

Jesus was sent, not self-existent:

John 17​
3Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.
John 13​
16Truly, truly, I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.

Jesus is dependent on and obedient to God, proving that he is not equal with Go. Jesus is eternally subordinate to God:

Hebrews 5​
8Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from what He suffered. 9And having been made perfect, He became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey Him​
1 Corinthians 15​
27For “God has put everything under His feet.” Now when it says that everything has been put under Him, this clearly does not include the One who put everything under Him. 28And when all things have been subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will be made subject to Him who put all things under Him, so that God may be all in all.

Jesus is a mediator, not God Himself:
1 Timothy 2​
5For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
Greater does not mean a difference of essense


Philippians 2:5–6 (KJV 1900) — 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

The subject here is the mind of Christ and equality with God. Nowhere is it suggested the Philippians should think themselves equal with God

John 5:18 (LEB) — 18 So on account of this the Jews were seeking even more to kill him, because he not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God his own Father, thus making himself equal with God

Christ was clearly termed God

John 1:1 (LEB) — 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

John 20:28 (LEB) — 28 Thomas answered and said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

Acts 20:27–28 (KJV 1900) — 27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. 28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Philippians 2:5–6 (KJV 1900) — 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God

Romans 9:5 (LEB) — 5 to whom belong the patriarchs, and from whom is the Christ according to human descent, who is God over all, blessed forever! Amen.

Titus 2:13 (LEB) — 13 looking forward to the blessed hope and the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Hebrews 1:8–9 (LEB) — 8 but concerning the Son, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of righteous is the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; because of this God, your God, has anointed you with the olive oil of joy more than your companions.

2 Peter 1:1 (LEB) — 1 Simeon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained a faith equal in value to ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Titus 2:13 (LEB) — 13 looking forward to the blessed hope and the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Isaiah 9:6 (LEB) — 6 For a child has been born for us; a son has been given to us. And the dominion will be on his shoulder, and his name is called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
 
Jesus denied equality with God and he is not

John 14​
28You heard Me say, ‘I am going away, and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, because the Father is greater than I.
Mark 3​
32No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

If Jesus is God then he cannot be the same God as The God since he distinguishes himself from God:

John 20​
17“Do not cling to Me,” Jesus said, “for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go and tell My brothers, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God.’”
Revelation 3​
12The one who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will never again leave it. Upon him I will write the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God (the new Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven from My God), and My new name.​

Jesus was sent, not self-existent:

John 17​
3Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.
John 13​
16Truly, truly, I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.

Jesus is dependent on and obedient to God, proving that he is not equal with Go. Jesus is eternally subordinate to God:

Hebrews 5​
8Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from what He suffered. 9And having been made perfect, He became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey Him​
1 Corinthians 15​
27For “God has put everything under His feet.” Now when it says that everything has been put under Him, this clearly does not include the One who put everything under Him. 28And when all things have been subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will be made subject to Him who put all things under Him, so that God may be all in all.

Jesus is a mediator, not God Himself:
1 Timothy 2​
5For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
Greater in what sense?

Scripture clearly cites him as God

John 1:1 (LEB) — 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

John 20:28 (LEB) — 28 Thomas answered and said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

Acts 20:27–28 (KJV 1900) — 27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. 28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Philippians 2:5–6 (KJV 1900) — 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God

Romans 9:5 (LEB) — 5 to whom belong the patriarchs, and from whom is the Christ according to human descent, who is God over all, blessed forever! Amen.

Titus 2:13 (LEB) — 13 looking forward to the blessed hope and the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Hebrews 1:8–9 (LEB) — 8 but concerning the Son, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of righteous is the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; because of this God, your God, has anointed you with the olive oil of joy more than your companions.

2 Peter 1:1 (LEB) — 1 Simeon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained a faith equal in value to ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Titus 2:13 (LEB) — 13 looking forward to the blessed hope and the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Isaiah 9:6 (LEB) — 6 For a child has been born for us; a son has been given to us. And the dominion will be on his shoulder, and his name is called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

And Jesus affirmed he and the Father are one

John 10:30 (LEB) — 30 The Father and I are one.”

John 17:22 (LEB) — 22 And the glory that you have given to me, I have given to them, in order that they may be one, just as we are one—

Even claiming a mutual indwelling

John 10:38 (LEB) — 38 But if I am doing them, even if you do not believe me, believe the deeds, so that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.”

John 14:10 (LEB) — 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak from myself, but the Father residing in me does his works.
 
Im not sure you do, since you seem to believe His Death accomplished no more than animal sacrifices which didn't and couldn't take away sin. His Death for sin took it away for His elect and so He sat down with the work finished. Thats why Hebrews starts out this way to emphasize His superior accomplishments because of His superior personage.
You are totally lacking in understanding and truth.

It is not just scripture you fumble, but you even falsely present my theology.
 
You avoid any detailed interactions on the subject. You have since you've been here.

BTW partially quoting one verse while clearly criticizing Christ betrays your intent. Either way. Enjoy.
Already tried that with you guys. Are you saying you're open to it now or will you continue to reject the only true God being the Father?
 
Greater does not mean a difference of essense


Philippians 2:5–6 (KJV 1900) — 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

The subject here is the mind of Christ and equality with God. Nowhere is it suggested the Philippians should think themselves equal with God

John 5:18 (LEB) — 18 So on account of this the Jews were seeking even more to kill him, because he not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God his own Father, thus making himself equal with God

Christ was clearly termed God

John 1:1 (LEB) — 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

John 20:28 (LEB) — 28 Thomas answered and said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

Acts 20:27–28 (KJV 1900) — 27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. 28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Philippians 2:5–6 (KJV 1900) — 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God

Romans 9:5 (LEB) — 5 to whom belong the patriarchs, and from whom is the Christ according to human descent, who is God over all, blessed forever! Amen.

Titus 2:13 (LEB) — 13 looking forward to the blessed hope and the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Hebrews 1:8–9 (LEB) — 8 but concerning the Son, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of righteous is the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; because of this God, your God, has anointed you with the olive oil of joy more than your companions.

2 Peter 1:1 (LEB) — 1 Simeon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained a faith equal in value to ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Titus 2:13 (LEB) — 13 looking forward to the blessed hope and the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Isaiah 9:6 (LEB) — 6 For a child has been born for us; a son has been given to us. And the dominion will be on his shoulder, and his name is called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
You're using extremely niche translations for every one one of these verses. There are other verses of all of these verses that very bluntly demonstrate that Jesus isn't God.
 
Greater in what sense?

Scripture clearly cites him as God

John 1:1 (LEB) — 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

John 20:28 (LEB) — 28 Thomas answered and said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

Acts 20:27–28 (KJV 1900) — 27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. 28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Philippians 2:5–6 (KJV 1900) — 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God

Romans 9:5 (LEB) — 5 to whom belong the patriarchs, and from whom is the Christ according to human descent, who is God over all, blessed forever! Amen.

Titus 2:13 (LEB) — 13 looking forward to the blessed hope and the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Hebrews 1:8–9 (LEB) — 8 but concerning the Son, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of righteous is the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; because of this God, your God, has anointed you with the olive oil of joy more than your companions.

2 Peter 1:1 (LEB) — 1 Simeon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained a faith equal in value to ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Titus 2:13 (LEB) — 13 looking forward to the blessed hope and the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Isaiah 9:6 (LEB) — 6 For a child has been born for us; a son has been given to us. And the dominion will be on his shoulder, and his name is called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

And Jesus affirmed he and the Father are one

John 10:30 (LEB) — 30 The Father and I are one.”

John 17:22 (LEB) — 22 And the glory that you have given to me, I have given to them, in order that they may be one, just as we are one—

Even claiming a mutual indwelling

John 10:38 (LEB) — 38 But if I am doing them, even if you do not believe me, believe the deeds, so that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.”

John 14:10 (LEB) — 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak from myself, but the Father residing in me does his works.
Scripture teaches that God is greater than men in every way. If Jesus is a God-Man, as you all claim, then the God part is greater than the man part and the man part is not God at all because humans are not equal to or greater than God. Why do you not believe Jesus is a man just as the bible plainly says?
 
You're using extremely niche translations for every one one of these verses. There are other verses of all of these verses that very bluntly demonstrate that Jesus isn't God.
Niche?

These are standard LEB Bible verses.

The NIV reads the same

Christ was clearly termed God

John 1:1 (LEB) — 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

John 1:1 (NIV) — 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 20:28 (LEB) — 28 Thomas answered and said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

John 20:28 (NIV) — 28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

Acts 20:27–28 (KJV 1900) — 27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. 28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Acts 20:28 (NIV) — 28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.

Philippians 2:5–6 (KJV 1900) — 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God

Philippians 2:5–6 (NIV) — 5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;

Romans 9:5 (LEB) — 5 to whom belong the patriarchs, and from whom is the Christ according to human descent, who is God over all, blessed forever! Amen.

Romans 9:5 (NIV) — 5 Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.


Titus 2:13 (LEB) — 13 looking forward to the blessed hope and the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Titus 2:13 (NIV) — 13 while we wait for the blessed hope—the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,

Hebrews 1:8–9 (LEB) — 8 but concerning the Son, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of righteous is the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; because of this God, your God, has anointed you with the olive oil of joy more than your companions.

Hebrews 1:8–9 (NIV) — 8 But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.”

2 Peter 1:1 (LEB) — 1 Simeon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained a faith equal in value to ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.

2 Peter 1 (NIV) — 1 Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:

Isaiah 9:6 (LEB) — 6 For a child has been born for us; a son has been given to us. And the dominion will be on his shoulder, and his name is called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 9:6 (NIV) — 6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
 
Scripture teaches that God is greater than men in every way. If Jesus is a God-Man, as you all claim, then the God part is greater than the man part and the man part is not God at all because humans are not equal to or greater than God. Why do you not believe Jesus is a man just as the bible plainly says?
Um, the Bible also says he is God.

In multiple translations and verses

John 1:1 (LEB) — 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

John 1:1 (NIV) — 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 20:28 (LEB) — 28 Thomas answered and said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

John 20:28 (NIV) — 28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

Acts 20:27–28 (KJV 1900) — 27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. 28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Acts 20:28 (NIV) — 28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.

Philippians 2:5–6 (KJV 1900) — 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God

Philippians 2:5–6 (NIV) — 5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;

Romans 9:5 (LEB) — 5 to whom belong the patriarchs, and from whom is the Christ according to human descent, who is God over all, blessed forever! Amen.

Romans 9:5 (NIV) — 5 Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.


Titus 2:13 (LEB) — 13 looking forward to the blessed hope and the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Titus 2:13 (NIV) — 13 while we wait for the blessed hope—the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,

Hebrews 1:8–9 (LEB) — 8 but concerning the Son, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of righteous is the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; because of this God, your God, has anointed you with the olive oil of joy more than your companions.

Hebrews 1:8–9 (NIV) — 8 But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.”

2 Peter 1:1 (LEB) — 1 Simeon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained a faith equal in value to ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.

2 Peter 1 (NIV) — 1 Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:

Isaiah 9:6 (LEB) — 6 For a child has been born for us; a son has been given to us. And the dominion will be on his shoulder, and his name is called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 9:6 (NIV) — 6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

UASV

John 1:1 (UASV) — 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:18 (UASV) — 18 No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, that one has made him fully known.

Philippians 2:5–6 (UASV) — 5 Have this mind in yourselves, which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,

Titus 2:13 (UASV) — 13 Looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Hebrews 1:8 (UASV) — 8 But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of his kingdom.

2 Peter 1:1 (UASV) — 1 Simon Peter, a slave, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have acquired a faith as precious as ours through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

Isaiah 9:6 (UASV) — 6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government will be upon his shoulder, and his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.
 
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Already tried that with you guys. Are you saying you're open to it now or will you continue to reject the only true God being the Father?
Are you saying you're open to it now or will you continue to reject that Christ is the true God and eternal life, who is also the One Lord, the only Sovereign and Lord ?
 
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