The Issue of Limited Atonement

Plus the all men in Rom 5:18 B received Justification of life, and we know that's not true of all without exception since scripture doesnt tech universalism, so its limited, Justification of life is Justification with eternal life. So its limited unless you teach universalism.

That translation you quoted "the result was justification of life to all mankind." that's universalism, you should know that's wrong
Actually no

The text does not state they receive justification of life

There are a number of words in the text which do not appear in the greek

Romans 5:18
Text Analysis
Go to Parallel Greek
Strong'sGreekEnglishMorphology
686 [e]Ἄρα
Ara
SoConj
3767 [e]οὖν
oun
then,Conj
5613 [e]ὡς
hōs
just asAdv
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
3900 [e]παραπτώματος
paraptōmatos
trespass,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
2631 [e]κατάκριμα,
katakrima
condemnation,N-ANS
3779 [e]οὕτως
houtōs
soAdv
2532 [e]καὶ
kai
alsoConj
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
1345 [e]δικαιώματος
dikaiōmatos
act of righteousness,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
1347 [e]δικαίωσιν
dikaiōsin
justificationN-AFS
2222 [e]ζωῆς·
zōēs
of life.N-GFS


Further you cannot argue only the justified of mankind or all men had been condemned in Adam

nor can you make the mankind of part A different than the mankind of part B
 
Actually no

The text does not state they receive justification of life

There are a number of words in the text which do not appear in the greek

Romans 5:18
Text Analysis
Go to Parallel Greek
Strong'sGreekEnglishMorphology
686 [e]Ἄρα
Ara
SoConj
3767 [e]οὖν
oun
then,Conj
5613 [e]ὡς
hōs
just asAdv
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
3900 [e]παραπτώματος
paraptōmatos
trespass,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
2631 [e]κατάκριμα,
katakrima
condemnation,N-ANS
3779 [e]οὕτως
houtōs
soAdv
2532 [e]καὶ
kai
alsoConj
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
1345 [e]δικαιώματος
dikaiōmatos
act of righteousness,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
1347 [e]δικαίωσιν
dikaiōsin
justificationN-AFS
2222 [e]ζωῆς·
zōēs
of life.N-GFS




Further you cannot argue only the justified of mankind or all men had been condemned in Adam

nor can you make the mankind of part A different than the mankind of part B
Plus the all men in Rom 5:18 B received Justification of life, and we know that's not true of all without exception since scripture doesnt tech universalism, so its limited, Justification of life is Justification with eternal life. So its limited unless you teach universalism.

That translation you quoted "the result was justification of life to all mankind." that's universalism, you should know that's wrong

In addition, the all men in Rom 5:18 are only the many in Rom 5:19 and thy are made righteous, hence again thy cant be all mankind without exception made righteous lest you believe in universalism
 
Plus the all men in Rom 5:18 B received Justification of life, and we know that's not true of all without exception since scripture doesnt tech universalism, so its limited, Justification of life is Justification with eternal life. So its limited unless you teach universalism.

That translation you quoted "the result was justification of life to all mankind." that's universalism, you should know that's wrong

In addition, the all men in Rom 5:18 are only the many in Rom 5:19 and thy are made righteous, hence again thy cant be all mankind without exception made righteous lest you believe in universalism
You ignored the reply

Actually no

The text does not state they receive justification of life

There are a number of words in the text which do not appear in the greek

Romans 5:18
Text Analysis
Go to Parallel Greek
Strong'sGreekEnglishMorphology
686 [e]Ἄρα
Ara
SoConj
3767 [e]οὖν
oun
then,Conj
5613 [e]ὡς
hōs
just asAdv
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
3900 [e]παραπτώματος
paraptōmatos
trespass,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
2631 [e]κατάκριμα,
katakrima
condemnation,N-ANS
3779 [e]οὕτως
houtōs
soAdv
2532 [e]καὶ
kai
alsoConj
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
1345 [e]δικαιώματος
dikaiōmatos
act of righteousness,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
1347 [e]δικαίωσιν
dikaiōsin
justificationN-AFS
2222 [e]ζωῆς·
zōēs
of life.N-GFS




Further you cannot argue only the justified of mankind or all men had been condemned in Adam

nor can you make the mankind of part A different than the mankind of part B

PS not even the additional words show they actually received it
 
I do not see you explain this


Explain how this is not your position

So only the justified were condemned in Adam?

Romans 5:18 (NASB 2020) — 18 So then, as through one offense the result was condemnation to all mankind, so also through one act of righteousness the result was justification of life to all mankind.

It is the same mankind which is spoken of in both halves of the verse
Another dodger
 
Actually no

The text does not state they receive justification of life

There are a number of words in the text which do not appear in the greek

Romans 5:18
Text Analysis
Go to Parallel Greek
Strong'sGreekEnglishMorphology
686 [e]Ἄρα
Ara
SoConj
3767 [e]οὖν
oun
then,Conj
5613 [e]ὡς
hōs
just asAdv
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
3900 [e]παραπτώματος
paraptōmatos
trespass,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
2631 [e]κατάκριμα,
katakrima
condemnation,N-ANS
3779 [e]οὕτως
houtōs
soAdv
2532 [e]καὶ
kai
alsoConj
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
1345 [e]δικαιώματος
dikaiōmatos
act of righteousness,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
1347 [e]δικαίωσιν
dikaiōsin
justificationN-AFS
2222 [e]ζωῆς·
zōēs
of life.N-GFS




Further you cannot argue only the justified of mankind or all men had been condemned in Adam

nor can you make the mankind of part A different than the mankind of part B
Yes it’s a blatant De Nile of the Greek text and English translation
 
Yes it’s a blatant De Nile of the Greek text and English translation
Verse 17 shows the gift must be accepted

Romans 5:17 (NASB 2020) — 17 For if by the offense of the one, death reigned through the one, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.

From scripture we know this is through faith
 
You ignored the reply

Actually no

The text does not state they receive justification of life

There are a number of words in the text which do not appear in the greek

Romans 5:18
Text Analysis
Go to Parallel Greek
Strong'sGreekEnglishMorphology
686 [e]Ἄρα
Ara
SoConj
3767 [e]οὖν
oun
then,Conj
5613 [e]ὡς
hōs
just asAdv
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
3900 [e]παραπτώματος
paraptōmatos
trespass,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
2631 [e]κατάκριμα,
katakrima
condemnation,N-ANS
3779 [e]οὕτως
houtōs
soAdv
2532 [e]καὶ
kai
alsoConj
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
1345 [e]δικαιώματος
dikaiōmatos
act of righteousness,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
1347 [e]δικαίωσιν
dikaiōsin
justificationN-AFS
2222 [e]ζωῆς·
zōēs
of life.N-GFS




Further you cannot argue only the justified of mankind or all men had been condemned in Adam

nor can you make the mankind of part A different than the mankind of part B

PS not even the additional words show they actually received it
Plus the all men in Rom 5:18 B received Justification of life, and we know that's not true of all without exception since scripture doesnt tech universalism, so its limited, Justification of life is Justification with eternal life. So its limited unless you teach universalism.

That translation you quoted "the result was justification of life to all mankind." that's universalism, you should know that's wrong

In addition, the all men in Rom 5:18 are only the many in Rom 5:19 and thy are made righteous, hence again thy cant be all mankind without exception made righteous lest you believe in universalism

In fact the entire Chapter 5 of Romans is about the elect, the Saints at Rome whose Faith Paul heard of Rom 1:7-8

7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.
 
Plus the all men in Rom 5:18 B received Justification of life, and we know that's not true of all without exception since scripture doesnt tech universalism, so its limited, Justification of life is Justification with eternal life. So its limited unless you teach universalism.

That translation you quoted "the result was justification of life to all mankind." that's universalism, you should know that's wrong

In addition, the all men in Rom 5:18 are only the many in Rom 5:19 and thy are made righteous, hence again thy cant be all mankind without exception made righteous lest you believe in universalism

In fact the entire Chapter 5 of Romans is about the elect, the Saints at Rome whose Faith Paul heard of Rom 1:7-8

7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.
Sorry the text does not state they receive it

There are a number of words in the text which do not appear in the greek

Romans 5:18
Text Analysis
Go to Parallel Greek
Strong'sGreekEnglishMorphology
686 [e]Ἄρα
Ara
SoConj
3767 [e]οὖν
oun
then,Conj
5613 [e]ὡς
hōs
just asAdv
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
3900 [e]παραπτώματος
paraptōmatos
trespass,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
2631 [e]κατάκριμα,
katakrima
condemnation,N-ANS
3779 [e]οὕτως
houtōs
soAdv
2532 [e]καὶ
kai
alsoConj
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
1345 [e]δικαιώματος
dikaiōmatos
act of righteousness,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
1347 [e]δικαίωσιν
dikaiōsin
justificationN-AFS
2222 [e]ζωῆς·
zōēs
of life.N-GFS




Further you cannot argue only the justified of mankind or all men had been condemned in Adam

nor can you make the mankind of part A different than the mankind of part B

PS not even the additional words show they actually received it
 
Sorry the text does not state they receive it

There are a number of words in the text which do not appear in the greek

Romans 5:18
Text Analysis
Go to Parallel Greek
Strong'sGreekEnglishMorphology
686 [e]Ἄρα
Ara
SoConj
3767 [e]οὖν
oun
then,Conj
5613 [e]ὡς
hōs
just asAdv
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
3900 [e]παραπτώματος
paraptōmatos
trespass,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
2631 [e]κατάκριμα,
katakrima
condemnation,N-ANS
3779 [e]οὕτως
houtōs
soAdv
2532 [e]καὶ
kai
alsoConj
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
1345 [e]δικαιώματος
dikaiōmatos
act of righteousness,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
1347 [e]δικαίωσιν
dikaiōsin
justificationN-AFS
2222 [e]ζωῆς·
zōēs
of life.N-GFS




Further you cannot argue only the justified of mankind or all men had been condemned in Adam

nor can you make the mankind of part A different than the mankind of part B

PS not even the additional words show they actually received it
In fact the entire Chapter 5 of Romans is about the elect, the Saints at Rome whose Faith Paul heard of Rom 1:7-8

7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

So Rom 5:18 the entire verse is limited to the elect, its about their fall in Adam and their restoration in Christ, has nothing to do with the non elect.

Same thing in Rom 5:19 the many both times is the elect only
 
In fact the entire Chapter 5 of Romans is about the elect, the Saints at Rome whose Faith Paul heard of Rom 1:7-8

7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

So Rom 5:18 the entire verse is limited to the elect, its about their fall in Adam and their restoration in Christ, has nothing to do with the non elect.

Same thing in Rom 5:19 the many both times is the elect only
Sorry the text does not state they receive it

There are a number of words in the text which do not appear in the greek

Romans 5:18
Text Analysis
Go to Parallel Greek
Strong'sGreekEnglishMorphology
686 [e]Ἄρα
Ara
SoConj
3767 [e]οὖν
oun
then,Conj
5613 [e]ὡς
hōs
just asAdv
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
3900 [e]παραπτώματος
paraptōmatos
trespass,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
2631 [e]κατάκριμα,
katakrima
condemnation,N-ANS
3779 [e]οὕτως
houtōs
soAdv
2532 [e]καὶ
kai
alsoConj
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
1345 [e]δικαιώματος
dikaiōmatos
act of righteousness,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
1347 [e]δικαίωσιν
dikaiōsin
justificationN-AFS
2222 [e]ζωῆς·
zōēs
of life.N-GFS




Further you cannot argue only the justified of mankind or all men had been condemned in Adam

nor can you make the mankind of part A different than the mankind of part B

PS not even the additional words show they actually received it
 
Sorry the text does not state they receive it

There are a number of words in the text which do not appear in the greek

Romans 5:18
Text Analysis
Go to Parallel Greek
Strong'sGreekEnglishMorphology
686 [e]Ἄρα
Ara
SoConj
3767 [e]οὖν
oun
then,Conj
5613 [e]ὡς
hōs
just asAdv
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
3900 [e]παραπτώματος
paraptōmatos
trespass,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
2631 [e]κατάκριμα,
katakrima
condemnation,N-ANS
3779 [e]οὕτως
houtōs
soAdv
2532 [e]καὶ
kai
alsoConj
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
1345 [e]δικαιώματος
dikaiōmatos
act of righteousness,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
1347 [e]δικαίωσιν
dikaiōsin
justificationN-AFS
2222 [e]ζωῆς·
zōēs
of life.N-GFS




Further you cannot argue only the justified of mankind or all men had been condemned in Adam

nor can you make the mankind of part A different than the mankind of part B

PS not even the additional words show they actually received it
In fact the entire Chapter 5 of Romans is about the elect, the Saints at Rome whose Faith Paul heard of Rom 1:7-8

7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

So Rom 5:18 the entire verse is limited to the elect, its about their fall in Adam and their restoration in Christ, has nothing to do with the non elect.

Same thing in Rom 5:19 the many both times is the elect only
 
In fact the entire Chapter 5 of Romans is about the elect, the Saints at Rome whose Faith Paul heard of Rom 1:7-8

7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

So Rom 5:18 the entire verse is limited to the elect, its about their fall in Adam and their restoration in Christ, has nothing to do with the non elect.

Same thing in Rom 5:19 the many both times is the elect only
Still no response to

Sorry the text does not state they receive it

There are a number of words in the text which do not appear in the greek

Romans 5:18
Text Analysis
Go to Parallel Greek
Strong'sGreekEnglishMorphology
686 [e]Ἄρα
Ara
SoConj
3767 [e]οὖν
oun
then,Conj
5613 [e]ὡς
hōs
just asAdv
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
3900 [e]παραπτώματος
paraptōmatos
trespass,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
2631 [e]κατάκριμα,
katakrima
condemnation,N-ANS
3779 [e]οὕτως
houtōs
soAdv
2532 [e]καὶ
kai
alsoConj
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
1345 [e]δικαιώματος
dikaiōmatos
act of righteousness,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
1347 [e]δικαίωσιν
dikaiōsin
justificationN-AFS
2222 [e]ζωῆς·
zōēs
of life.N-GFS




Further you cannot argue only the justified of mankind or all men had been condemned in Adam

nor can you make the mankind of part A different than the mankind of part B

PS not even the additional words show they actually received it
 
Still no response to

Sorry the text does not state they receive it

There are a number of words in the text which do not appear in the greek

Romans 5:18
Text Analysis
Go to Parallel Greek
Strong'sGreekEnglishMorphology
686 [e]Ἄρα
Ara
SoConj
3767 [e]οὖν
oun
then,Conj
5613 [e]ὡς
hōs
just asAdv
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
3900 [e]παραπτώματος
paraptōmatos
trespass,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
2631 [e]κατάκριμα,
katakrima
condemnation,N-ANS
3779 [e]οὕτως
houtōs
soAdv
2532 [e]καὶ
kai
alsoConj
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
1345 [e]δικαιώματος
dikaiōmatos
act of righteousness,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
1347 [e]δικαίωσιν
dikaiōsin
justificationN-AFS
2222 [e]ζωῆς·
zōēs
of life.N-GFS




Further you cannot argue only the justified of mankind or all men had been condemned in Adam

nor can you make the mankind of part A different than the mankind of part B

PS not even the additional words show they actually received it
In fact the entire Chapter 5 of Romans is about the elect, the Saints at Rome whose Faith Paul heard of Rom 1:7-8

7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

So Rom 5:18 the entire verse is limited to the elect, its about their fall in Adam and their restoration in Christ, has nothing to do with the non elect.

Same thing in Rom 5:19 the many both times is the elect only
 
In fact the entire Chapter 5 of Romans is about the elect, the Saints at Rome whose Faith Paul heard of Rom 1:7-8

7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

So Rom 5:18 the entire verse is limited to the elect, its about their fall in Adam and their restoration in Christ, has nothing to do with the non elect.

Same thing in Rom 5:19 the many both times is the elect only
Still no response to

Sorry the text does not state they receive it

There are a number of words in the text which do not appear in the greek

Romans 5:18
Text Analysis
Go to Parallel Greek
Strong'sGreekEnglishMorphology
686 [e]Ἄρα
Ara
SoConj
3767 [e]οὖν
oun
then,Conj
5613 [e]ὡς
hōs
just asAdv
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
3900 [e]παραπτώματος
paraptōmatos
trespass,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
2631 [e]κατάκριμα,
katakrima
condemnation,N-ANS
3779 [e]οὕτως
houtōs
soAdv
2532 [e]καὶ
kai
alsoConj
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
1345 [e]δικαιώματος
dikaiōmatos
act of righteousness,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
1347 [e]δικαίωσιν
dikaiōsin
justificationN-AFS
2222 [e]ζωῆς·
zōēs
of life.N-GFS




Further you cannot argue only the justified of mankind or all men had been condemned in Adam

nor can you make the mankind of part A different than the mankind of part B

PS not even the additional words show they actually received it
 
Still no response to

Sorry the text does not state they receive it

There are a number of words in the text which do not appear in the greek

Romans 5:18
Text Analysis
Go to Parallel Greek
Strong'sGreekEnglishMorphology
686 [e]Ἄρα
Ara
SoConj
3767 [e]οὖν
oun
then,Conj
5613 [e]ὡς
hōs
just asAdv
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
3900 [e]παραπτώματος
paraptōmatos
trespass,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
2631 [e]κατάκριμα,
katakrima
condemnation,N-ANS
3779 [e]οὕτως
houtōs
soAdv
2532 [e]καὶ
kai
alsoConj
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
1345 [e]δικαιώματος
dikaiōmatos
act of righteousness,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
1347 [e]δικαίωσιν
dikaiōsin
justificationN-AFS
2222 [e]ζωῆς·
zōēs
of life.N-GFS




Further you cannot argue only the justified of mankind or all men had been condemned in Adam

nor can you make the mankind of part A different than the mankind of part B

PS not even the additional words show they actually received it
In fact the entire Chapter 5 of Romans is about the elect, the Saints at Rome whose Faith Paul heard of Rom 1:7-8

7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

So Rom 5:18 the entire verse is limited to the elect, its about their fall in Adam and their restoration in Christ, has nothing to do with the non elect.

Same thing in Rom 5:19 the many both times is the elect only
 
In fact the entire Chapter 5 of Romans is about the elect, the Saints at Rome whose Faith Paul heard of Rom 1:7-8

7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

So Rom 5:18 the entire verse is limited to the elect, its about their fall in Adam and their restoration in Christ, has nothing to do with the non elect.

Same thing in Rom 5:19 the many both times is the elect only
the "elect" is not even mentioned in that chapter. you as expected are adding to scripture and reading your man made doctrine into the passage.

its called- EISEGESIS.

Nowhere in Scripture does it say Christ ONLY died for the elect:

Limited atonement is unbiblical

1-He died for ALL (1 Tim. 2:6).

2-He died for ALL MEN (Rom. 5:18; 1 Tim. 4:10).

3-He died for US ALL, for ALL OF US (Isa. 53:6).

4-He died for the UNGODLY (Rom. 5:6).

5-He died for CHRIST-DENIERS (2 Peter 2:1).

6-He died for SINNERS (Rom. 5:8).

7-He died for EVERY MAN (Heb. 2:9).

8-He died for MANY not few (Matthew 20:28).

9-He died for the WORLD (John 6:33,51;
John 1:29 and John 3:16).

10-He died for the WHOLE WORLD (1 John 2:2).

11-He died for the WHOLE NATION of Israel (John 11:50-51).

12-He died for the CHURCH (Eph. 5:25).

13-He died for His SHEEP (John 10:11).

14-He died for ME (Gal. 2:20).

hope this helps !!!
 
There is a difference between limit atonement and limited acceptance. Limited atonement means that not everyone’s sins are covered by the blood and thus those not covered cannot ever be saved.

Limit acceptance does not mean that those not believing are incapable of believing or not covered by the blood, but only that they refuse to believe.

The atonement is not limited to a few but covers “the sins of the whole world” that are never repented of or confessed, not just “our sins”, the sins of believers.

All sins are covered! All mankind are capable of being saved. The only limitation is caused by our refusal to believe in and embrace the truth of the gospel. God has already done all that needs to be done that he can do.

Doug
Amen this answers the OP. :)
 
The atonement is limited to the all that Justification of life came upon because of Jesus Death Rom 5:18

therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one[Jesus Christ] the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

These Greek Lexicons affirm world means all, everyone, the whole world without exception.

Thayers

Cosmos: the inhabitants of the

5. world
: θέατρον ἐγενήθημεν τῷ κόσμῳ καί ἀγγέλοις καί ἀνθρώποις, 1 Corinthians 4:9 (Winers Grammar, 127 (121)); particularly the inhabitants of the earth, men, the human race (first so in Sap. (e. g. )): Matthew 13:38; Matthew 18:7; Mark 14:9; John 1:10, 29 ( L in brackets); ; Romans 3:6, 19; 1 Corinthians 1:27f (cf. Winer's Grammar, 189 (178)); ; 2 Corinthians 5:19; James 2:5 (cf. Winer's Grammar, as above); 1 John 2:2 (cf. Winer's Grammar, 577 (536)); ἀρχαῖος κόσμος, of the antediluvians, 2 Peter 2:5; γέννασθαι εἰς τόν κόσμον, John 16:21; ἔρχεσθαι εἰς τόν κόσμον (John 9:39) and εἰς τόν κόσμον τοῦτον, to make its appearance or come into existence among men, spoken of the light which in Christ shone upon men, John 1:9; John 3:19, cf. 12:46; of the Messiah, John 6:14; John 11:27; of Jesus as the Messiah, John 9:39; John 16:28; John 18:37; 1 Timothy 1:15; also ἐισέρχεσθαι εἰς τόν κόσμον, Hebrews 10:5; of false teachers, 2 John 1:7 (yet here L T Tr WH ἐξέρχεσθαι εἰς τόν κόσμον; (so all texts in 1 John 4:1)); to invade, of evils coming into existence among men and beginning to exert their power: of sin and death, Romans 5:12 (of death, Wis. 2:24; Clement of Rome, 1 Cor. 3, 4 [ET]; of idolatry, Wis. 14:14). ἀποστέλλειν τινα εἰς τόν κόσμον, John 3:17; John 10:36; John 17:18; 1 John 4:9; φῶς τοῦ κόσμου, Matthew 5:14; John 8:12; John 9:5; σωτήρ τοῦ κόσμου, John 4:42; 1 John 4:14 (σωτηρία τοῦ κόσμου Wis. 6:26 (25); ἐλπίς τοῦ κόσμου, Wis. 14:6; πρωτόπλαστος πατήρ τοῦ κόσμου, of Adam, Wis. 10:1); στοιχεῖα τοῦ κόσμου (see στοιχεῖον, 3 and 4); ἐν τῷ κόσμῳ, among men, John 16:33; John 17:13; Ephesians 2:12; ἐν κόσμῳ (see Winer's Grammar, 123 (117)), 1 Timothy 3:16; εἶναι ἐν τῷ κόσμου, to dwell among men, John 1:10; John 9:5; John 17:11, 12 R G; 1 John 4:3; εἶναι ἐν κόσμῳ, to be present, Romans 5:13; ἐξελθεῖν, ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου, to withdraw from human society and seek an abode outside of it, 1 Corinthians 5:10; ἀναστρέφεσθαι ἐν τῷ κόσμῳ, to behave oneself, 2 Corinthians 1:12; likewise εἶναι ἐν τῷ κόσμου τούτῳ, 1 John 4:17.

6.
"the ungodly multitude; the whole mass of men alienated from God, and therefore hostile to the cause of Christ" (cf. Winer's Grammar, 26): John 7:7; John 14:27 (); ; 1 Corinthians 1:21; 1 Corinthians 6:2; 1 Corinthians 11:32; 2 Corinthians 7:10; James 1:27; 1 Peter 5:9; 2 Peter 1:4; 2 Peter 2:20; 1 John 3:1, 13; 1 John 4:5; 1 John 5:19; of the aggregate of ungodly and wicked men in O. T. times, Hebrews 11:38; in Noah's time, ibid. 7; with οὗτος added, Ephesians 2:2 (on which see αἰών, 3); εἶναι ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου and ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου τούτου (see εἰμί, V. 3rd.), John 8:23; John 15:19; John 17:14, 16; 1 John 4:5; λαλεῖν ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου, to speak in accordance with the world's character and mode of thinking, 1 John 4:5; ὁ ἄρχων τοῦ κόσμου τούτου, i. e. the devil, John 12:31; John 14:30; John 16:11; ὁ ἐν τῷ κόσμῳ he that is operative in the world (also of the devil), 1 John 4:4; τό πνεῦμα τοῦ κόσμου

b. of all mankind, but especially of believers, as the object of God’s love J 3:16, 17c; 6:33, 51; 12:47.

William Arndt et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature : A Translation and Adaption of the Fourth Revised and Augmented Edition of Walter Bauer’s Griechisch-Deutsches Worterbuch Zu Den Schrift En Des Neuen Testaments Und Der Ubrigen Urchristlichen Literatur (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1979), 446.

1 John 2:2-He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

1 John 2:15-17
-Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them. 16 For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world. 17 The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever.

1 John 4:3-6- but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.4 You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 5 They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. 6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.

1 John 4:14- And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world

1 John 5:19
- We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

Now its very clear from the Lexicon definition and in 1 John that the cosmos/world does not mean Gods elect (that is Calvinism) not what John means in his epistle. It clearly means everyone with no exceptions in this world, all of its inhabitants who make up the ungodly multitude. It is clearly all inclusive of everyone, all, the entire world that lies under the evil one in opposition to God from the context of 1 John.

Only someone with a closed mind trapped in their dogma/doctrine would argue otherwise resulting in eisegesis( reading their own ideas into the text) rather than exegesis ( letting the text dictate ones ideas ).

We see above that the whole world lies under the evil one and its that same identical whole world in 1 John 2:2 that Jesus made PROPITIATION for which is clear from the CONTEXT in 1 John.

Its that world whom Christ made atonement/ propitiation. Doctrine/Dogma will never cloud my mind and never will I allow any systematic theology or bias to cloud my view of Scripture.

hope this helps !!!
 
In fact the entire Chapter 5 of Romans is about the elect, the Saints at Rome whose Faith Paul heard of Rom 1:7-8

7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

So Rom 5:18 the entire verse is limited to the elect, its about their fall in Adam and their restoration in Christ, has nothing to do with the non elect.

Same thing in Rom 5:19 the many both times is the elect only
Still no response to

Sorry the text does not state they receive it

There are a number of words in the text which do not appear in the greek

Romans 5:18
Text Analysis
Go to Parallel Greek
Strong'sGreekEnglishMorphology
686 [e]Ἄρα
Ara
SoConj
3767 [e]οὖν
oun
then,Conj
5613 [e]ὡς
hōs
just asAdv
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
3900 [e]παραπτώματος
paraptōmatos
trespass,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
2631 [e]κατάκριμα,
katakrima
condemnation,N-ANS
3779 [e]οὕτως
houtōs
soAdv
2532 [e]καὶ
kai
alsoConj
1223 [e]δι’
di’
byPrep
1520 [e]ἑνὸς
henos
oneAdj-GNS
1345 [e]δικαιώματος
dikaiōmatos
act of righteousness,N-GNS
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
toPrep
3956 [e]πάντας
pantas
allAdj-AMP
444 [e]ἀνθρώπους
anthrōpous
menN-AMP
1519 [e]εἰς
eis
[it is] untoPrep
1347 [e]δικαίωσιν
dikaiōsin
justificationN-AFS
2222 [e]ζωῆς·
zōēs
of life.N-GFS




Further you cannot argue only the justified of mankind or all men had been condemned in Adam

nor can you make the mankind of part A different than the mankind of part B

PS not even the additional words show they actually received it
 
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