Behold
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Because it's sin that separates us from God.
So, God became a man, to not only forgive our sin, but "became sin for us" so that its concluded forever., as redeemed by the blood of the Lamb.
The Importance of Obedience in Knowing God
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Because it's sin that separates us from God.
So, God became a man, to not only forgive our sin, but "became sin for us" so that its concluded forever., as redeemed by the blood of the Lamb.
So then the answer to my question is "YES". Men are now free, by the blood of the Passover Lamb, to transgress God's Commandments by our own manmade religious traditions, free to create their own religion, their own judgments, their own image of God in the likeness of man, and Jesus is now our Sin?
Well it is certainly a seductive religion, I can see why so "many" are on the Path.
Thanks for the discussion Behold.
L.A.M.B.
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Wow just wow.
The arrogance of some whom claim to follow Christ & be "born again" saying they are a teacher of the word is a stench in the nostrils of truth !
The word of God sets us free but the bondage man imposes is a yoke to heavy to bear of any religious institution.
We must follow the Holy Spirit inspired word that came forth from God, finished by his Son and illuminated by his Spirit to overcome unbelief and live righteous, not men, any men !
Beliefs should be God's word based and can be personal, but it's the walk & talk of so called believers the world and Christendom observes to see the love of God in a person.
Always boasting is a real rejection of his truth.
Salvation is a GIFT OF GOD !
The arrogance of some whom claim to follow Christ & be "born again" saying they are a teacher of the word is a stench in the nostrils of truth !
The word of God sets us free but the bondage man imposes is a yoke to heavy to bear of any religious institution.
We must follow the Holy Spirit inspired word that came forth from God, finished by his Son and illuminated by his Spirit to overcome unbelief and live righteous, not men, any men !
Beliefs should be God's word based and can be personal, but it's the walk & talk of so called believers the world and Christendom observes to see the love of God in a person.
Always boasting is a real rejection of his truth.
Salvation is a GIFT OF GOD !
Behold
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The born again are not created as "new Creations' to then go back under the old covenant.
That's what you preach, but your "Old Covenant" and God's Old Covenant are two completely didn't things. What I advocate for is a man believes ALL that is written.
Rom. 6: 15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
That means NO Behold, we should not continue in disobedience to God because we are under grace. Why not? Paul tells you, if you could only believe him.
16 Know ye not, that to whom "ye yield yourselves" servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death,
Sin still brings death to the Body of Christ, both Jew and Gentile even years after the Christ ascended. It's right there, right before your eyes.
But there is another whom you are also free to "Yield yourself" servants to obey.
or of obedience unto righteousness?
What happens to a man who choose this option?
17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart (Jesus didn't obey for you, as the deceiver would have you believe) that form of doctrine which was delivered you. 18 Being then made free from sin, (Not free from the definition of Sin, which you imply) ye became the servants of (God's) righteousness. Just as Jesus was a Servant of God's Righteousness.
Again, you must change the subject, and hide from Paul's clear message to the Body of Christ as to why they shouldn't disobey God, because they are under Grace and not under the Law". It brings death back to them. You must therefore ignore Paul here.
Yes, obedience to God is imputed into Righteousness, just as it was for Abraham. That is what Paul teaches.
Behold
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The "imputed righteous" is "Christ's", that Paul is discussing that has become the "gift of Righteousness" that is given to every born again believer.
He's a bit later to show up then Abraham.
Didn't you know?
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Clay
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Obedience is extremely important in regards to our salvation. If Jesus hadn't been obedient and gone to the cross there wouldn't be any salvation.
Without obedience you end up with this:
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 2 Corinthians 10:5
Here's a few verses that tells us about Living in obedience to Jesus Christ. That's what we're called to do.
Without obedience you end up with this:
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 2 Corinthians 10:5
Here's a few verses that tells us about Living in obedience to Jesus Christ. That's what we're called to do.
James 1:22
But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.Romans 5:19
For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous.Exodus 19:5
Now therefore, if you will indeed obey my voice and keep my covenant, you shall be my treasured possession among all peoples, for all the earth is mine;1 John 3:21-22
Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence before God; and whatever we ask we receive from him, because we keep his commandments and do what pleases him.James 4:7
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.James 1:25
But the one who looks into the perfect law, the law of liberty, and perseveres, being no hearer who forgets but a doer who acts, he will be blessed in his doing.Philippians 2:11
And every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.1 Corinthians 15:58
Therefore, my beloved brothers, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that in the Lord your labor is not in vain.Romans 15:32
So that by God's will I may come to you with joy and be refreshed in your company.Romans 13:1
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.Romans 12:11
Do not be slothful in zeal, be fervent in spirit, serve the Lord.Romans 12:2
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.Romans 12:1
I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.Romans 8:14
For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.Acts 5:32
And we are witnesses to these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him.”John 15:16
You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.John 14:23
Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.John 14:15
“If you love me, you will keep my commandments.Luke 10:27
And he answered, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.”Luke 9:23
And he said to all, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me.Luke 6:27-28
“But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you.Proverbs 6:20
My son, keep your father's commandment, and forsake not your mother's teaching.Psalm 119:60
I hasten and do not delay to keep your commandments.Joshua 1:8
This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.Deuteronomy 28:1
“And if you faithfully obey the voice of the Lord your God, being careful to do all his commandments that I command you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations of the earth.Deuteronomy 5:33
You shall walk in all the way that the Lord your God has commanded you, that you may live, and that it may go well with you, and that you may live long in the land that you shall possess.Revelation 14:12
Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.Revelation 3:1-20:15
“And to the angel of the church in Sardis write: ‘The words of him who has the seven spirits of God and the seven stars. “‘I know your works. You have the reputation of being alive, but you are dead. Wake up, and strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have not found your works complete in the sight of my God. Remember, then, what you received and heard. Keep it, and repent. If you will not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what hour I will come against you. Yet you have still a few names in Sardis, people who have not soiled their garments, and they will walk with me in white, for they are worthy. The one who conquers will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels. ...2 John 1:6
And this is love, that we walk according to his commandments; this is the commandment, just as you have heard from the beginning, so that you should walk in it.1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.1 Peter 1:14
As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance,Hebrews 13:17
Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you.Hebrews 5:1-9:28
For every high priest chosen from among men is appointed to act on behalf of men in relation to God, to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins. He can deal gently with the ignorant and wayward, since he himself is beset with weakness. Because of this he is obligated to offer sacrifice for his own sins just as he does for those of the people. And no one takes this honor for himself, but only when called by God, just as Aaron was. So also Christ did not exalt himself to be made a high priest, but was appointed by him who said to him, “You are my Son, today I have begotten you”; ...1 Timothy 4:8
For while bodily training is of some value, godliness is of value in every way, as it holds promise for the present life and also for the life to come.Colossians 3:22
Bondservants, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord.Philippians 2:8
And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.Ephesians 6:1
Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right.Ephesians 6:1-3
Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. “Honor your father and mother” (this is the first commandment with a promise), “that it may go well with you and that you may live long in the land.”Galatians 5:17
For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do.Galatians 1:10
For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.2 Corinthians 10:5
We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ,Romans 8:1-14:23
There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. ...Romans 1:5
Through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the obedience of faith for the sake of his name among all the nations,Acts 10:34-35
So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.Acts 2:42 ESV
And they devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers.John 15:14
You are my friends if you do what I command you.John 15:1-16:33
“I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in me that does not bear fruit he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. Already you are clean because of the word that I have spoken to you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me. I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. ...John 14:2
In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?John 14:1
“Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me.John 3:36
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.John 3:21-22
But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.” After this Jesus and his disciples went into the Judean countryside, and he remained there with them and was baptizing.Luke 11:28
But he said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”Mark 16:15 ESV
And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation.Mark 14:36
And he said, “Abba, Father, all things are possible for you. Remove this cup from me. Yet not what I will, but what you will.”Matthew 19:17
And he said to him, “Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments.”Matthew 16:25
For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.Matthew 7:1-21:46
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. ...Matthew 5:1-13:58
Seeing the crowds, he went up on the mountain, and when he sat down, his disciples came to him. And he opened his mouth and taught them, saying: “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. “Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted. “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. ...Matthew 5:1-19:30
Seeing the crowds, he went up on the mountain, and when he sat down, his disciples came to him. And he opened his mouth and taught them, saying: “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. “Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted. “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. ...Malachi 2:2
If you will not listen, if you will not take it to heart to give honor to my name, says the Lord of hosts, then I will send the curse upon you and I will curse your blessings. Indeed, I have already cursed them, because you do not lay it to heart.Malachi 2:1-17
“And now, O priests, this command is for you. If you will not listen, if you will not take it to heart to give honor to my name, says the Lord of hosts, then I will send the curse upon you and I will curse your blessings. Indeed, I have already cursed them, because you do not lay it to heart. Behold, I will rebuke your offspring, and spread dung on your faces, the dung of your offerings, and you shall be taken away with it. So shall you know that I have sent this command to you, that my covenant with Levi may stand, says the Lord of hosts. My covenant with him was one of life and peace, and I gave them to him. It was a covenant of fear, and he feared me. He stood in awe of my name. ...Zechariah 1:3
Therefore say to them, Thus declares the Lord of hosts: Return to me, says the Lord of hosts, and I will return to you, says the Lord of hosts.Jonah 2:9
But I with the voice of thanksgiving will sacrifice to you; what I have vowed I will pay. Salvation belongs to the Lord!”Ezekiel 20:19-20
I am the Lord your God; walk in my statutes, and be careful to obey my rules, and keep my Sabbaths holy that they may be a sign between me and you, that you may know that I am the Lord your God.’Ezekiel 18:1-21:32
The word of the Lord came to me: “What do you mean by repeating this proverb concerning the land of Israel, ‘The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge’? As I live, declares the Lord God, this proverb shall no more be used by you in Israel. Behold, all souls are mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is mine: the soul who sins shall die. “If a man is righteous and does what is just and right— ...Ezekiel 12:1-28:26
The word of the Lord came to me: “Son of man, you dwell in the midst of a rebellious house, who have eyes to see, but see not, who have ears to hear, but hear not, for they are a rebellious house. As for you, son of man, prepare for yourself an exile's baggage, and go into exile by day in their sight. You shall go like an exile from your place to another place in their sight. Perhaps they will understand, though they are a rebellious house. You shall bring out your baggage by day in their sight, as baggage for exile, and you shall go out yourself at evening in their sight, as those do who must go into exile. In their sight dig through the wall, and bring your baggage out through it. ...Ecclesiastes 5:4
When you vow a vow to God, do not delay paying it, for he has no pleasure in fools. Pay what you vow.Proverbs 10:17
Whoever heeds instruction is on the path to life, but he who rejects reproof leads others astray.Proverbs 6:1-20:30
My son, if you have put up security for your neighbor, have given your pledge for a stranger, if you are snared in the words of your mouth, caught in the words of your mouth, then do this, my son, and save yourself, for you have come into the hand of your neighbor: go, hasten, and plead urgently with your neighbor. Give your eyes no sleep and your eyelids no slumber; save yourself like a gazelle from the hand of the hunter, like a bird from the hand of the fowler. ...Proverbs 4:20-21
My son, be attentive to my words; incline your ear to my sayings. Let them not escape from your sight; keep them within your heart.Proverbs 4:1-10:32
Hear, O sons, a father's instruction, and be attentive, that you may gain insight, for I give you good precepts; do not forsake my teaching. When I was a son with my father, tender, the only one in the sight of my mother, he taught me and said to me, “Let your heart hold fast my words; keep my commandments, and live. Get wisdom; get insight; do not forget, and do not turn away from the words of my mouth. ...Proverbs 4:1-5:23
Hear, O sons, a father's instruction, and be attentive, that you may gain insight, for I give you good precepts; do not forsake my teaching. When I was a son with my father, tender, the only one in the sight of my mother, he taught me and said to me, “Let your heart hold fast my words; keep my commandments, and live. Get wisdom; get insight; do not forget, and do not turn away from the words of my mouth. ...Psalm 143:10
Teach me to do your will, for you are my God! Let your good Spirit lead me on level ground!Psalm 128:1
A Song of Ascents. Blessed is everyone who fears the Lord, who walks in his ways!Psalm 68:6
God settles the solitary in a home; he leads out the prisoners to prosperity, but the rebellious dwell in a parched land.Psalm 37:23
The steps of a man are established by the Lord, when he delights in his way;Job 23:12
I have not departed from the commandment of his lips; I have treasured the words of his mouth more than my portion of food.1 Kings 2:3
And keep the charge of the Lord your God, walking in his ways and keeping his statutes, his commandments, his rules, and his testimonies, as it is written in the Law of Moses, that you may prosper in all that you do and wherever you turn,Joshua 5:6
For the people of Israel walked forty years in the wilderness, until all the nation, the men of war who came out of Egypt, perished, because they did not obey the voice of the Lord; the Lord swore to them that he would not let them see the land that the Lord had sworn to their fathers to give to us, a land flowing with milk and honey.Deuteronomy 11:1
“You shall therefore love the Lord your God and keep his charge, his statutes, his rules, and his commandments always.Deuteronomy 8:6
So you shall keep the commandments of the Lord your God by walking in his ways and by fearing him.Deuteronomy 6:1-25:19
“Now this is the commandment—the statutes and the rules—that the Lord your God commanded me to teach you, that you may do them in the land to which you are going over, to possess it, that you may fear the Lord your God, you and your son and your son's son, by keeping all his statutes and his commandments, which I command you, all the days of your life, and that your days may be long. Hear therefore, O Israel, and be careful to do them, that it may go well with you, and that you may multiply greatly, as the Lord, the God of your fathers, has promised you, in a land flowing with milk and honey. “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. ...Deuteronomy 5:1-33:29
And Moses summoned all Israel and said to them, “Hear, O Israel, the statutes and the rules that I speak in your hearing today, and you shall learn them and be careful to do them. The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. Not with our fathers did the Lord make this covenant, but with us, who are all of us here alive today. The Lord spoke with you face to face at the mountain, out of the midst of the fire, while I stood between the Lord and you at that time, to declare to you the word of the Lord. For you were afraid because of the fire, and you did not go up into the mountain. He said: ...Deuteronomy 4:40
Therefore you shall keep his statutes and his commandments, which I command you today, that it may go well with you and with your children after you, and that you may prolong your days in the land that the Lord your God is giving you for all time.”Deuteronomy 4:2
You shall not add to the word that I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God that I command you.Numbers 15:39
And it shall be a tassel for you to look at and remember all the commandments of the Lord, to do them, not to follow after your own heart and your own eyes, which you are inclined to whore after.Leviticus 26:3-4
“If you walk in my statutes and observe my commandments and do them, then I will give you your rains in their season, and the land shall yield its increase, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit.Exodus 24:12
The Lord said to Moses, “Come up to me on the mountain and wait there, that I may give you the tablets of stone, with the law and the commandment, which I have written for their instruction.”Exodus 15:1-26:37
Then Moses and the people of Israel sang this song to the Lord, saying, “I will sing to the Lord, for he has triumphed gloriously; the horse and his rider he has thrown into the sea. The Lord is my strength and my song, and he has become my salvation; this is my God, and I will praise him, my father's God, and I will exalt him. The Lord is a man of war; the Lord is his name. “Pharaoh's chariots and his host he cast into the sea, and his chosen officers were sunk in the Red Sea. The floods covered them; they went down into the depths like a stone. ...Genesis 26:4-5
I will multiply your offspring as the stars of heaven and will give to your offspring all these lands. And in your offspring all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because Abraham obeyed my voice and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.”I know that "Many" who come in Christ's Name, preach that Jesus obeyed God, so that men don't have to "Yield themselves" to keep the commandments. Although this is a very seductive religious philosophy, and a great and very successful marketing Strategy for this world's religious businesses, having created religious empires and with political power and wealth on heard of. That is not what Jesus or Paul teaches.
Amen
Behold
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Christianity is not bout keeping commandments or law.
As that is just bi-product.., that's a given.
Romans 12:1 is not something NEW to a real Christians.
It is true that your religion is not about repentance and submitting to God in honor and obedience. On that truth, you have been more than clear.
DavidTree
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@Behold @L.A.M.B. @dwight92070 @Fellow Traveler @Doug Brents
i found in Scripture the only Place where a Christian can have ABSOLUTE PERFECT Obedience unto FATHER/CHRIST/HOLY SPIRIT
Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.
Revelation 12:10-11
L.A.M.B.
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Absolutely.
Too many today think it is about " themselves ", their theology or opinions.
In truth it is all about " HIM"!
Without him we have no relationship to the Father and cannot follow in obedience or in any merit of our own.
He must increase and we must decrease.
Our testimony is that we believe Jesus is our salvation, and by his death, burial & resurrection we can have eternal life in him ; if we endure until the end of our own lives !
Mark. 8 :34-38
[35] For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.
[36] For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
[37] Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Behold
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1 Jn 5
"Who is it that overcomes the world? = Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.""
I think men should consider more of what is written in Scriptures before making such a declaration. Who was the accuser accusing? Was it not those faithful men who by "Denying themselves" picking up their cross and "Putting on the New Man, which after God was created in righteousness and true Holiness, became "Servants of God's Righteousness", as Paul teaches in Romans 6? Are these men not those who "let this Mind of Christ be in them"?
Rev. 12: 17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Are you preaching that the dragon only went to make war with those who honored God by keeping His Commandments, and trusted in His Son their Redeemer "AFTER" the accuser was cast down??
Rev. 14: 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith "of Jesus".
Is it your religious philosophy that these men were only capable of "acceptable to God obedience", "After" they entered the Kingdom of God?
I'm not sure the point of your post. Are you saying that men are not to "strive against sin" until after the Christ returns? That when the Jesus "of the Bible" commanded men to "Be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect", HE was deceiving them?
Are you really preaching to others that a man can't "not live in transgression of God's Commandments"??
Do you and Behold teach your children, "Don't listen to God and believe Him, because if you do you will "Never get to Heaven". That's what I am being told?
What did Paul strive for, if not perfect obedience to God? What did Abraham Strive for? Of course, in this world there will be "other voices" in the garden, who profess to know God, "Hath God not said", just as there was in Eve's world, that will work to convince us, "Don't listen to God", you can't obey Him. Follow us on the path "we walk", look at all the other people who are on the same easy, wide and popular path."
What you guys don't get, is that denying ourselves, our traditions, our religions, and "turning to God and Striving for perfect obedience, as Jesus Commanded, "IS" perfect obedience.
Phil. 3: 12Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God (Perfection even as our Father is perfect, the same perfection that was) in Christ Jesus. 15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, (As God and His Son, Jesus Commanded) be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.
So yes, I know there will be men who "come in Christ's Name", who will tell me that if I am trusting the Word of God, which became Flesh, to lead me to the Kingdom of God, "I will never make it".
Nevertheless, I'm placing my Trust in His Word, and not the religious businesses and sects of this world.
But wait a minute Behold, you just got done Preaching;
So which is it? Are the "Doers" of the Christ's Sayings those who overcome the world? Or the hearers only?
DavidTree
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Wonderfully said - Thank You
