The Hypostatic Union- the 2 Natures in Christ
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Johann
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It is not for us to say who are saved or not.
civic
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You were kidding right
GeneZ
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Chapter and verse? .....
Only body was provided for! Hebrews 10:5! Not his soul!
Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said:
“Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me."
“Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me."
After showing you numerous times that in the Torah the Lord God of Israel states that he was manifested as God and Soul in union
long before the incarnation took place??? I find it both odd and amusing how you keep forgetting those OT passages.
It makes me wonder how much you can actually recall from all those many books you say you read.
When all I showed you? Were about four verses.
'You will eat the old supply and clear out the old because of the new.
Moreover, I will make My dwelling among you, and My soul will not
reject you.'I will also walk among you and be your God, and you shall
be My people." Lev 26:10-12
And they began to remove the foreign gods from their midst and to
serve Jehovah, so that his soul became impatient because of the trouble
of Israel. Jdges 10:16
Jehovah himself examines the righteous one as well as the wicked one,
and anyone loving violence his soul certainly hates." Ps 11:5
“Bring no more futile sacrifices; Incense is an abomination to Me.
The New Moons, the Sabbaths, and the calling of assemblies—
I cannot endure iniquity and the sacred meeting. Your New Moons
and your appointed feasts My soul hates; They are a trouble to Me,
I am weary of bearing them.. Isa 1:13-14
The Greek tense found in Philippians 2:6 reveals that he (his soul) was *eternally*existing in the form of God...
(God does not eternally exist in the form of God. (God is simply God!)
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Actually, it's Jesus' Personhood that was, is, and always will be the Uncreated Word of God.
What you wrote is wrong on at least two levels:
1) To be human (aka: to possess human nature) means that you were born/created at some point in time. Instead, you are saying that the Son of God was always human (uncreated) meaning that there is no born/created point, thus making him an created uncreated person. You violated the law of noncontradiction. That darn law of noncontradiction
2) To be human (aka:: possess human nature) you must have been born with a body. You tend to forget that vital part of being human. Why is that? I sense Gnosticism. I also sensed Gnosticism when you did not include Adam and Eve's bodies as part of them being made in the image of God.
civic
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Amen
GeneZ
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What applies to finite humans will not necessarily apply to the eternal humanity of Christ...
That is a mistake some here keep wandering into.
And, approving of one another when they do.
civic
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There is no eternity past humanity with the Son. He became human in the womb of Mary at conception like all men except Adam.
Diserner
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Right-o.
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civic
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Son is eternal just like the Father and Holy Spirit are eternal. I can start a thread on that
Diserner
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Son is eternal just like the Father and Holy Spirit are eternal. I can start a thread on that
What do you think of EFS?
civic
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What is that acronym I’m having a Senior moment
Diserner
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What is that acronym I’m having a Senior moment
Making Sense of the Trinity (EFS) Debate | The Cripplegate
GeneZ
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You confuse the Son of God (Lord God of Israel) with the state he entered into to make Himself become a man.
He became a human being by means having His eternal soul (which I have shown you already too many time to try again)
enter that body provided by Mary.
A body is not a person. Mary only provided a body for Him.
Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said:
“Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
but a body you prepared for me;
Hebrews 10:5
He spoke as a full grown adult when the body was given.
If his soul was just created for that body as you claimed? He would yet be without vocabulary.
The following was Jesus speaking.
“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those
sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together,
as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing.
Look, your house is left to you desolate." Matthew 23:37-38
sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together,
as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing.
Look, your house is left to you desolate." Matthew 23:37-38
I think some have not been sovereignly predestined not to get it... God saved them anyway.
Jesus was saying He (his soul) was eternally existing before Abraham was born...
And was eternally existing in the days he longed to gather the Jews, whom Jesus said killed the prophets.
Today, some kill the Word of God. By treating it like its dead to their ears when its presented to them.
Not all saved will be receiving crowns...... Jesus said so.
So be it....
There's no eternal soul either. That's Neo-Apollinarianism.
With all these varieties of Heresies beings manifested by countless people, there must be a standard Heresies Diagnostics book out there that we can consult to quickly diagnose Heresies infections. I'm going to get one if one is available on the Internet.
civic
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Your eternal soul doctrine is error since the Father and Holy Spirit are without souls . It’s anti trinitarian
Next
civic
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Let me know what you find
You have been diagnosed with Neo-Apollinarianism.
Treatment is reading @civic's articles on the Hypostatic Union of Christ. You will be quizzed about it in a week.
Next Patient!
Diserner
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Three souls, that's three gods!!!!
What's the difference between a human soul and a God soul, huh???
