Oh wow. Because Jesus did not speak of his divinity in clear terms (if at all) here, then you deny his divinity and preexistence. I share this passage of John 3:29 because you try to make Jesus a common man turned hero or a man turned divine, as in the Adoptionism heresy, except extended to the other followers too.
The glory that Jesus was speaking about was something that he obtained in the present. It was not something he literally had before the world began. What Jesus is referring to here is the glory he had in God's foreknowledge. There is proof of this in John 17 because Jesus prayed that God loves his disciples just as He loved Jesus. Since God loved Jesus before the foundation of the world, in order for God to love the disciples just as he loved Jesus, then he would have also had to love the disciples since before the foundation of the world.
God the Father is not in the vine according to Jesus. God is the keeper or vinedresser. Start there, maybe that's the key for you.
That proves nothing of unitarian beliefs. Verse 24 favors the biblical trinitarian doctrine more than a unitarian belief. Your post here does nothing for advancing your broad interpretation.
That just means that Christ in his divinity is our life and sustenance. You may have a slight change to the Trinitarian doctrine that might be considered but not one to reject Christ as the Son of God. Your arguments only seek to diminish who Christ is while you neglect the verses that show his divinity as Son of God in preexistence to his incarnation. I'm not sure how that can be convincing to anyone.
It's just basic exegesis built on the infallible words of Jesus who said the Father is the only true God.
God isn't stated to be a member of the vine. Did you catch the part where God is an external entity to Jesus and everyone else?
strawman since He said He was equal with the Father and to see Him was to see the Father and the person Jesus said that to called Him his Lord and God. And John also called Him the True God and Eternal Life.
We can call you the one-verse unitarian
Did you catch the multitude of verses showing the divinity of Christ? Maybe you have not refined your thinking to recognize that Jesus, as the incarnation of God's Son, is usually called Christ Jesus even though he sometimes is called God.
Verse?
We can call you the zero verse trinitarian.
That is funny. Kind of shifting the problems of a one-verse unitarian against the whole of scripture.
their entire foundation in the bible is John 17:3- without that one verse ripped from its context the entire house crumbles - the fact is in the context Jesus makes Himself equal with the Father as we read in John 17:5 and 17:3- eternal life Jesus claimed equality with the Father and in Creation sharing Their mutual glory together with one another before creation.
No verses in the Bible that say Jesus is God Almighty.
you will just deny it and you already know the ones I referenced.
Wow. Shocking. Imagine God not revealing everything in Genesis 1!! I'm looking for the verse that says "Mr. Runningman, the trinity is the accurate depiction of the Godhead. Believe it." Hmm. It is not quite that simple, but does it have to be?
no verse in the bible has the Father saying I Am God or I Am God Almighty.
