Shema Israel and identifying Jesus as Jehovah/Yahweh

[synergy]

Guess he just does not like scripture

John 1:3 (NASB95) — 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.


Seems pretty obvious

or he needs a new prescription of glasses.

 

[Keiw1]

You have shown no errors, and the verse refutes your theology

John 1:3 (NASB95) — 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

Hello

What does THROUGH mean to you. That Jesus did it or another did it?

 

[synergy]

What does THROUGH mean to you. That Jesus did it or another did it?

To me it means that at the very least Jesus was involved in the creation of everything created. That means Jesus is uncreated otherwise he would have needed to create himself which makes no sense whatsoever. That's why the Arian JW heresy is built on nonsense like that.

 

[Johann]

To me it means that at the very least Jesus was involved in the creation of everything created. That means Jesus is uncreated otherwise he would have needed to create himself which makes no sense whatsoever. That's why the Arian JW heresy is built on nonsense like that.

Correct

John 1:3 (NASB)
"All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being."

1 Corinthians 8:6 (NASB)
"Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him."

Colossians 1:16 (NASB)
"For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible... all things have been created through Him and for Him."

Hebrews 1:2 (NASB)
"...in these last days spoke to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom He also made the world."

Hebrews 1:10 (NASB)
"You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the works of Your hands."

J.

 

[Keiw1]

To me it means that at the very least Jesus was involved in the creation of everything created. That means Jesus is uncreated otherwise he would have needed to create himself which makes no sense whatsoever. That's why the Arian JW heresy is built on nonsense like that.

Yes He is included in Gen 1:26=US= Jehovah and his master worker( Prov 8:30) but at Gen 1:27 is clear-HE( 1 single being created) Prov 8:27-28-HE created, not we created. Jesus is the one who was by Gods side during creation, Jehovah created all other things-THROUGH his master worker. He created the master worker first, direct. The Hebrew word used= possessed at Prov 8:22 translates created. Jesus is the firstborn of all creation( Col 1:15)

 

[synergy]

Yes He is included in Gen 1:26=US= Jehovah and his master worker( Prov 8:30) but at Gen 1:27 is clear-HE( 1 single being created) Prov 8:27-28-HE created, not we created. Jesus is the one who was by Gods side during creation, Jehovah created all other things-THROUGH his master worker. He created the master worker first, direct. The Hebrew word used= possessed at Prov 8:22 translates created. Jesus is the firstborn of all creation( Col 1:15)

Again, since at the very least Jesus was involved in the creation of everything then that means Jesus is uncreated. To say he was created would mean that he would need to create himself which makes no sense whatsoever. That's why the Arian JW heresy is built on nonsense like that.

 

[TomL]

What does THROUGH mean to you. That Jesus did it or another did it?

Jesus did it

Through makes Jesus the agent God worked through

 

[TomL]

or he needs a new prescription of glasses.

It those Calvinist lenses he has on.