Shema Israel and identifying Jesus as Jehovah/Yahweh

[TomL]

twisting, the angel came in Jehovahs name.

Sorry, he is called Yahweh or Jehovah if you prefer

Angel of Yahweh

Examples of use of the Hebrew term מַלְאַךְ יְהוָה are found in the following verses, here given in the King James Version translation:

• Genesis 16:7–14. The angel of the Lord appears to Hagar. The angel speaks as God in the first person, and in verse 13 Hagar identifies "the LORD that spake unto her" as "Thou God seest me".
• Genesis 22:11–15. The angel of the Lord appears to Abraham and refers to God in the first person.
• Exodus 3:2–4. The angel of the Lord appears to Moses in a flame in verse 2, and God speaks to Moses from the flame in verse 4.
• Judges 13:3–22. The angel of the Lord appears to Manoah and his wife and, in verse 16, tells them to offer to the LORD if they are to make an offering ("And the angel of the LORD said unto Manoah [...] if thou wilt offer a burnt offering, thou must offer it unto the LORD. For Manoah knew not that he was an angel of the LORD."). Later Manoah thought he and his wife will die for they "have seen God"
• Zechariah 1:12. The angel of the Lord pleads with the Lord to have mercy on Jerusalem and the cities of Judah.
• Zechariah 3:4. The angel of the Lord takes away the sin of the high priest Joshua.

 

[Keiw1]

Irrelevant

Theos establishes a particular case, Theon another

Theon the accusative case, Theos the nominative

Your ignorance of Greek leads you astray

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Theon is a noun in the accusative case

Theos a noun in the nominative case

Case

N - Nominative
V - Vocative
A - Accusative
G - Genitive
D - Dative
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Satan is called Theos at 2 Cor 4:4=god. When in the same paragraph with Ton Theon=The God. same at John 1:1 for the Word=god.

 

[Keiw1]

Sorry, he is called Yahweh or Jehovah if you prefer

Angel of Yahweh

Examples of use of the Hebrew term מַלְאַךְ יְהוָה are found in the following verses, here given in the King James Version translation:

• Genesis 16:7–14. The angel of the Lord appears to Hagar. The angel speaks as God in the first person, and in verse 13 Hagar identifies "the LORD that spake unto her" as "Thou God seest me".
• Genesis 22:11–15. The angel of the Lord appears to Abraham and refers to God in the first person.
• Exodus 3:2–4. The angel of the Lord appears to Moses in a flame in verse 2, and God speaks to Moses from the flame in verse 4.
• Judges 13:3–22. The angel of the Lord appears to Manoah and his wife and, in verse 16, tells them to offer to the LORD if they are to make an offering ("And the angel of the LORD said unto Manoah [...] if thou wilt offer a burnt offering, thou must offer it unto the LORD. For Manoah knew not that he was an angel of the LORD."). Later Manoah thought he and his wife will die for they "have seen God"
• Zechariah 1:12. The angel of the Lord pleads with the Lord to have mercy on Jerusalem and the cities of Judah.
• Zechariah 3:4. The angel of the Lord takes away the sin of the high priest Joshua.

No man has ever seen God, thus an angel was speaking Gods words.

 

[TomL]

No man has ever seen God, thus an angel was speaking Gods words.

The angel was called God, the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, Jehovah and does what only Jehovah can do

Angel of Yahweh

Examples of use of the Hebrew term מַלְאַךְ יְהוָה are found in the following verses, here given in the King James Version translation:

• Genesis 16:7–14. The angel of the Lord appears to Hagar. The angel speaks as God in the first person, and in verse 13 Hagar identifies "the LORD that spake unto her" as "Thou God seest me".
• Genesis 22:11–15. The angel of the Lord appears to Abraham and refers to God in the first person.
• Exodus 3:2–4. The angel of the Lord appears to Moses in a flame in verse 2, and God speaks to Moses from the flame in verse 4.
• Judges 13:3–22. The angel of the Lord appears to Manoah and his wife and, in verse 16, tells them to offer to the LORD if they are to make an offering ("And the angel of the LORD said unto Manoah [...] if thou wilt offer a burnt offering, thou must offer it unto the LORD. For Manoah knew not that he was an angel of the LORD."). Later Manoah thought he and his wife will die for they "have seen God"
• Zechariah 1:12. The angel of the Lord pleads with the Lord to have mercy on Jerusalem and the cities of Judah.
• Zechariah 3:4. The angel of the Lord takes away the sin of the high priest Joshua.

 

[TomL]

Satan is called Theos at 2 Cor 4:4=god. When in the same paragraph with Ton Theon=The God. same at John 1:1 for the Word=god.

Sorry no

As you were told but keep ignoring Jehovah is called both Theon and Theos

You are totally mishandling the Greek

 

[Keiw1]

The angel was called God, the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, Jehovah and does what only Jehovah can do

Angel of Yahweh

Examples of use of the Hebrew term מַלְאַךְ יְהוָה are found in the following verses, here given in the King James Version translation:

• Genesis 16:7–14. The angel of the Lord appears to Hagar. The angel speaks as God in the first person, and in verse 13 Hagar identifies "the LORD that spake unto her" as "Thou God seest me".
• Genesis 22:11–15. The angel of the Lord appears to Abraham and refers to God in the first person.
• Exodus 3:2–4. The angel of the Lord appears to Moses in a flame in verse 2, and God speaks to Moses from the flame in verse 4.
• Judges 13:3–22. The angel of the Lord appears to Manoah and his wife and, in verse 16, tells them to offer to the LORD if they are to make an offering ("And the angel of the LORD said unto Manoah [...] if thou wilt offer a burnt offering, thou must offer it unto the LORD. For Manoah knew not that he was an angel of the LORD."). Later Manoah thought he and his wife will die for they "have seen God"
• Zechariah 1:12. The angel of the Lord pleads with the Lord to have mercy on Jerusalem and the cities of Judah.
• Zechariah 3:4. The angel of the Lord takes away the sin of the high priest Joshua.

Every one knows 100% an angel is NOT God.

 

[Keiw1]

Sorry no

As you were told but keep ignoring Jehovah is called both Theon and Theos

You are totally mishandling the Greek

Greek scholars disagree with you and your religions in history and put a god at John 1:1, those translations all rejected because it exposed the trinity religions as false religion=100% fact. Israelite true God worship history disagrees with you and your religions.

 

[Keiw1]

Sorry no

As you were told but keep ignoring Jehovah is called both Theon and Theos

You are totally mishandling the Greek

The Greek scholars in history didn't mishandle it when putting a god at John 1:1.

 

[synergy]

The Greek scholars in history didn't mishandle it when putting a god at John 1:1.

The JW translators totally butchered the translation of John 1:1. I'm sure you don't have even one person who knows Greek in your Cult.

 

[TomL]

The Greek scholars in history didn't mishandle it when putting a god at John 1:1.

Um scholars translate it God

You have no real Greek scholars in the Watch tower

And as stated, Jehovah is continually referred to with the same Theos.

 

[TomL]

Greek scholars disagree with you and your religions in history and put a god at John 1:1, those translations all rejected because it exposed the trinity religions as false religion=100% fact. Israelite true God worship history disagrees with you and your religions.

Utter nonsense

You have no idea what Greek scholars hold, and simply mouth watchtower shibboleths and ignore the facts already shown to you

 

[TomL]

Every one knows 100% an angel is NOT God.

As usual, you ignore scripture

The angel was called God, the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, Jehovah and does what only Jehovah can do

Angel of Yahweh

Examples of use of the Hebrew term מַלְאַךְ יְהוָה are found in the following verses, here given in the King James Version translation:

• Genesis 16:7–14. The angel of the Lord appears to Hagar. The angel speaks as God in the first person, and in verse 13 Hagar identifies "the LORD that spake unto her" as "Thou God seest me".
• Genesis 22:11–15. The angel of the Lord appears to Abraham and refers to God in the first person.
• Exodus 3:2–4. The angel of the Lord appears to Moses in a flame in verse 2, and God speaks to Moses from the flame in verse 4.
• Judges 13:3–22. The angel of the Lord appears to Manoah and his wife and, in verse 16, tells them to offer to the LORD if they are to make an offering ("And the angel of the LORD said unto Manoah [...] if thou wilt offer a burnt offering, thou must offer it unto the LORD. For Manoah knew not that he was an angel of the LORD."). Later Manoah thought he and his wife will die for they "have seen God"
• Zechariah 1:12. The angel of the Lord pleads with the Lord to have mercy on Jerusalem and the cities of Judah.
• Zechariah 3:4. The angel of the Lord takes away the sin of the high priest Joshua.

Greek Angelos, Hebrew Malak simply means messenger

Exodus 3:2–4 (LEB) — 2 And the angel of Yahweh appeared to him in a flame of fire from the midst of a bush, and he looked, and there was the bush burning with fire, but the bush was not being consumed. 3 And Moses said, “Let me turn aside and see this great sight. Why does the bush not burn up?” 4 And Yahweh saw that he turned aside to see, and God called to him from the midst of the bush, and he said, “Moses, Moses.” And he said, “Here I am.”........
Exodus 3:6–7 (LEB) — 6 And he said, “I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” And Moses hid his face because he was afraid of looking at God. 7 And Yahweh said, “Surely I have seen the misery of my people who are in Egypt, and I have heard their cry of distress because of their oppressors, for I know their sufferings.

 

[Keiw1]

The JW translators totally butchered the translation of John 1:1. I'm sure you don't have even one person who knows Greek in your Cult.

God knows Greek. The only cult= a house divided( hundreds of trinity religions) will not stand--that's Gods view. The New world translation is correct=100% fact of life.

 

[Keiw1]

Um scholars translate it God

You have no real Greek scholars in the Watch tower

And as stated, Jehovah is continually referred to with the same Theos.

God fixed his bible via holy spirit through righteous men= the NEW world translation. All translations with Gods name removed gives support to satans will over Gods will=100% fact.

 

[Keiw1]

Utter nonsense

You have no idea what Greek scholars hold, and simply mouth watchtower shibboleths and ignore the facts already shown to you

1822-Abner Kneeland-Greek scholar-non trinitarian, non JW--Compared Greek to English side by side in his NT translation- to prove to the world a god is correct at John 1:1

 

[Keiw1]

As usual, you ignore scripture

The angel was called God, the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, Jehovah and does what only Jehovah can do

Angel of Yahweh

Examples of use of the Hebrew term מַלְאַךְ יְהוָה are found in the following verses, here given in the King James Version translation:

• Genesis 16:7–14. The angel of the Lord appears to Hagar. The angel speaks as God in the first person, and in verse 13 Hagar identifies "the LORD that spake unto her" as "Thou God seest me".
• Genesis 22:11–15. The angel of the Lord appears to Abraham and refers to God in the first person.
• Exodus 3:2–4. The angel of the Lord appears to Moses in a flame in verse 2, and God speaks to Moses from the flame in verse 4.
• Judges 13:3–22. The angel of the Lord appears to Manoah and his wife and, in verse 16, tells them to offer to the LORD if they are to make an offering ("And the angel of the LORD said unto Manoah [...] if thou wilt offer a burnt offering, thou must offer it unto the LORD. For Manoah knew not that he was an angel of the LORD."). Later Manoah thought he and his wife will die for they "have seen God"
• Zechariah 1:12. The angel of the Lord pleads with the Lord to have mercy on Jerusalem and the cities of Judah.
• Zechariah 3:4. The angel of the Lord takes away the sin of the high priest Joshua.

Greek Angelos, Hebrew Malak simply means messenger

Exodus 3:2–4 (LEB) — 2 And the angel of Yahweh appeared to him in a flame of fire from the midst of a bush, and he looked, and there was the bush burning with fire, but the bush was not being consumed. 3 And Moses said, “Let me turn aside and see this great sight. Why does the bush not burn up?” 4 And Yahweh saw that he turned aside to see, and God called to him from the midst of the bush, and he said, “Moses, Moses.” And he said, “Here I am.”........
Exodus 3:6–7 (LEB) — 6 And he said, “I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” And Moses hid his face because he was afraid of looking at God. 7 And Yahweh said, “Surely I have seen the misery of my people who are in Egypt, and I have heard their cry of distress because of their oppressors, for I know their sufferings.

The darkness that misleads ones like you amazes me how little ones like you know. NO ANGEL IS GOD.

 

[synergy]

God knows Greek. The only cult= a house divided( hundreds of trinity religions) will not stand--that's Gods view. The New world translation is correct=100% fact of life.

I knew it! Nobody in your cult knows any Greek! Thank you for being honest. All those evil JW translation-butchers will receive their punishment from God soon enough.

 

[TomL]

The darkness that misleads ones like you amazes me how little ones like you know. NO ANGEL IS GOD.

You ignored scripture
As usual, you ignore scripture

The angel was called God, the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, Jehovah and does what only Jehovah can do

Angel of Yahweh

Examples of use of the Hebrew term מַלְאַךְ יְהוָה are found in the following verses, here given in the King James Version translation:

• Genesis 16:7–14. The angel of the Lord appears to Hagar. The angel speaks as God in the first person, and in verse 13 Hagar identifies "the LORD that spake unto her" as "Thou God seest me".
• Genesis 22:11–15. The angel of the Lord appears to Abraham and refers to God in the first person.
• Exodus 3:2–4. The angel of the Lord appears to Moses in a flame in verse 2, and God speaks to Moses from the flame in verse 4.
• Judges 13:3–22. The angel of the Lord appears to Manoah and his wife and, in verse 16, tells them to offer to the LORD if they are to make an offering ("And the angel of the LORD said unto Manoah [...] if thou wilt offer a burnt offering, thou must offer it unto the LORD. For Manoah knew not that he was an angel of the LORD."). Later Manoah thought he and his wife will die for they "have seen God"
• Zechariah 1:12. The angel of the Lord pleads with the Lord to have mercy on Jerusalem and the cities of Judah.
• Zechariah 3:4. The angel of the Lord takes away the sin of the high priest Joshua.

Greek Angelos, Hebrew Malak simply means messenger

Exodus 3:2–4 (LEB) — 2 And the angel of Yahweh appeared to him in a flame of fire from the midst of a bush, and he looked, and there was the bush burning with fire, but the bush was not being consumed. 3 And Moses said, “Let me turn aside and see this great sight. Why does the bush not burn up?” 4 And Yahweh saw that he turned aside to see, and God called to him from the midst of the bush, and he said, “Moses, Moses.” And he said, “Here I am.”........
Exodus 3:6–7 (LEB) — 6 And he said, “I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” And Moses hid his face because he was afraid of looking at God. 7 And Yahweh said, “Surely I have seen the misery of my people who are in Egypt, and I have heard their cry of distress because of their oppressors, for I know their sufferings.

Why is it you put the word of man over the word of God and refuse to heed what God has written

 

[TomL]

1822-Abner Kneeland-Greek scholar-non trinitarian, non JW--Compared Greek to English side by side in his NT translation- to prove to the world a god is correct at John 1:1

Um Abner Kneeland

Was a universalist for many years and taught the salvation of all.

He denied the virgin birth, the existence of demons and hell,

And for the record

in John 1:1, Kneeland rendered, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a God,

not a god

 

[TomL]

God knows Greek. The only cult= a house divided( hundreds of trinity religions) will not stand--that's Gods view. The New world translation is correct=100% fact of life.

Hardly, It is an aberration, Which adds to and corrupts the word of God