PSA in the early Christian church
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civic
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Nope not a chance except for he two promoting PSA
civic
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You admitted it’s AI do I need to quote you
Johann
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civic
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The two people promoting PSA in these threads , you and dizerner.
Foster
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Really? Well stay warm and safe.
Dizerner
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To raise a more controversial question, if it’s true that God’s wrath must be appeased by sacrificing his own Son, then don’t we have to conclude that pagans who have throughout history sacrificed their children to appease the gods’ wrath had the right intuition, even if they expressed it in the wrong way?
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I never looked at the Trinity as being three people before. Is that in the Bible?You mean five.
You forgot the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
Dizerner
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In some sense, but of course we cannot offer a sinful sacrifice, to be clear.
Pagans have the intuition to pray, is prayer evil?
Pagans have the intuition to seek forgiveness, is seeking forgiveness evil?
Pagans believe demons exist, does that mean belief in demons are evil?
This is called, formally, "the genetic fallacy."
Take some time to re-read the story of Abraham sacrificing his son Isaac.
Don't rush through, but sincerely ask God:
"What exactly did you mean by asking a father to slaughter his own son?"
The Lord will provide.
Dizerner
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Absolutely, they are described as three identities possessing divine attributes with relational attributes to each other and creation.
I have many threads on it here in this forum.
Johann
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Prove to me that my post was AI-generated, if you can. Otherwise, you are only exposing yourself in your persistent effort to defame both me and the truth of the Scriptures (Proverbs 19:5 -"A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall not escape.").
Since you insist on making this personal on your forum, very well- I am now your problem. Let us call in the @Administrator to examine this matter impartially, for you are violating your own forum rules through repeated harassment and character assassination--you may call in the Mods here as well as I have nothing to hide
(Matthew 5:11 — "Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.").
I am requesting that the @Administrator personally and honestly decide who is acting deceitfully here
(Luke 6:45 — "A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.").
Until this matter is properly resolved, I will not post again. The blame for this situation rests not with me, but with you alone.
You have unresolved hidden agendas against me, your opponent. If you want to ban me--go right ahead but I have lost all my respect for you claiming yourself to be something you are not, evident for all to see.
I'll be waiting since you think you are a cut above all the rest, and your own rules.
Just a thought, as I wait, the @Administrator knows more about me than you.
Johann.
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PSA Is not just about Jesus Dying on the cross. We all understand that. The problem is in God pouring out His wrath on Jesus.
Where does the Bible explicitly say that God poured out His wrath on Jesus? No where! There are Bible verses That may sound like it but they are only an implication of PSA. Not a real teaching but a theologians opinion.
Where does the Bible explicitly say that God poured out His wrath on Jesus? No where! There are Bible verses That may sound like it but they are only an implication of PSA. Not a real teaching but a theologians opinion.
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I'll check it out. But It doesn't sound right to me. I know that a lot of cult leaders think they are part of the trinity.Absolutely, they are described as three identities possessing divine attributes with relational attributes to each other and creation.
I have many threads on it here in this forum.
civic
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Ditto
civic
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Yep
Dizerner
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How can you disconnected Jesus dying on the Cross from your sin, though?
See, that's the problem with all those who fight against PSA—they no longer really have a valid reason for Jesus to be tortured and die under the curse of the Law.
It was your sin, that put Jesus there, not someone else's.
Not the Romans.
Not Pilot.
Not the Pharisees.
It was your sin!
By that logic, where does the Bible explicitly say molesting a child is wrong, oh, it does not. You have to actually listen to the spirit of something and make deductions and hear from the Holy Spirit. You are simply not arguing how truth is conveyed. Unitarians want "Jesus said, 'I am God.'" before they believe Jesus is God. Annihiliationists want "Hell is all sinners being tortured by God forever," before they believe in hell. It's a literal fallacy to demand something be stated to your satisfaction when it is already stated satisfactorily. This is the kind of logic kids use to get around rules. "Well, you said don't go in the backyard, but you didn't specifically say I couldn't go in the shed in the backyard, you never even mentioned the shed!" No, this is weasel logic, it's just not honest at all.
Yes, there are Bible verses "that sound like it."
Because that is what the Bible is saying.
Dizerner
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The Trinity doesn't sound right to you?!!!!
And civic just says "Yep," I don't think he is even reading anything honestly.
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What are you talking about? Please don't take the molested child to the shed in the backyard. And leave the weasels alone they never did anything to you...I hope.
