PSA as central to the Gospel

[Tothalordbeallglory]

Faith is what saves and unbelief is what condemns according to Jesus teaching about salvation, eternal life in John 3:16-18.

Faith and unbelief is 100% man’s responsibility to the gospel message.

A return to teaching this church age of the gospel is a dire must .
Many who even claim to Believe on CHRIST and HIS g ospel
no longer truly even believe His gospel .
How so you might be wondering .
The gospel is YE MUST BELEIVE GOD RAISED HIM FROM the DEAD and confess HIM by mouth TO BE SAVED .
Right .
So watch this and hear ye the parable of the world wise mathmatician .
For he stood before his class and said to all within
TWO plus TWO is FOUR .
In time students were sent in and they went to work to plant unbelief .
One beleived two plus two was five
another beleived it was six
AND SOON in time the great mathemetician in order to appease his wide and diverse class
said aloud TWO plus two is four
and one student said no sir its five , and another said its six
and THE great man of math said WELL to me its four , and to you it is five and to another it is six
All our answers may appear different , BUT TIS STILL MATH WE TEACH .
But tell me civic DOES that man EVEN BELEIVE HIS TWO PLUS TWO is FOUR , NO SIR .
NOR does a man who says OH I BELIEVE THE GOSPEL but then turns around and in any way
implies it was okay for those who BELIEVED NOT . HE ALREADY BELIEVES THE LIE , NOT THE TRUTH .

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

Either we adamantaly BELEIVE the GOSPEL that clearly states one must beleive
OR we believe the lie
BUT IT CANNOT BE BOTH . you cannot beleive truth and a lie .
You cannot beleive both truth and the lie that contradicts t ruth .
SO CAN no man claim to BELEIVE ON CHRIST JESUS , HIS GOSPEL and beleive its okay If one did not .
ITS Only the lie they serve . they just decieve themselves and others .

 

[praise_yeshua]

The harlot is not the bride of Christ
although she has come from within and decks herself up as though she is ...........
HEAR and HEED her not for many souls have drowned in her delusion and have sipped
all out rebellion and fornication against A HOLY GOD , by her cup of such fornication that she calleth love .
But the love of A HARLOT is NO LOVE OF GOD and its love will surely preach rebellion against GOD .

Was Eve a harlot?

 

[praise_yeshua]

False, He did with Pharaoh

Ah.... that endless conflation with Calvinists.

God did harden Pharoah. That can't be ignored by the Arminians. You rightfully recognize this. You should. It is true.

However, you're conflating hardening with the purpose of sinfulness.

They are not one in the same. God stopped trying to convince Pharoah otherwise. He was "given over" to his own desires.

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

Was Eve a harlot?

You seem ready to burst my dear friend . SO go ahead and tell me what it is that you beleive my friend .
Was she .
She was in the trangression , BUT she got rebuked and corrected and her punishement befell her .
So more than likely NO she was not a harlot .
But i darn sure know we got us a mega harlot and SHE IS THE HARLOT and the well favored one too .
And many have drunk from her ecumenical cup . She has infiltrated
every and i do mean every known realm to man . From govts , to education systems , media ,
the denominations of prostestant . She has come wearing wool and thus has the appearance of a lamb
BUT SHE DRA GON SPEAKS . and now she has captivated even the false religions to come
and to rest under her shade she calleth love and claims is of GOD . THAT ONE I KNOW IS THE HARLOT
and many presidents , many prime ministirs , kings , tribes of the earth from the top to the bottom
and from bottom to top HAVE BEEN INFLUENCED by her . She has imams bowing to her will
buddists , even athiests , even wicans crying love and peace .
beware her cry for finding common ground
beware her cry of unity
beware her cry of bridge building
and of co exist
and her cry of love which has and is their common ground and THE LIE which all who rejected
the love of the truth WILL BUY and be damned . Beware her
for she cometh claoked in wool and in love , BUT her love DOES DENY the very gospel and TRUTH OF GOD ALL MIGHTY

 

[praise_yeshua]

You seem ready to burst my dear friend . SO go ahead and tell me what it is that you beleive my friend .
Was she .
She was in the trangression , BUT she got rebuked and corrected and her punishement befell her .
So more than likely NO she was not a harlot .
But i darn sure know we got us a mega harlot and SHE IS THE HARLOT and the well favored one too .
And many have drunk from her ecumenical cup . She has infiltrated
every and i do mean every known realm to man . From govts , to education systems , media ,
the denominations of prostestant . She has come wearing wool and thus has the appearance of a lamb
BUT SHE DRA GON SPEAKS . and now she has captivated even the false religions to come
and to rest under her shade she calleth love and claims is of GOD . THAT ONE I KNOW IS THE HARLOT
and many presidents , many prime ministirs , kings , tribes of the earth from the top to the bottom
and from bottom to top HAVE BEEN INFLUENCED by her . She has imams bowing to her will
buddists , even athiests , even wicans crying love and peace .
beware her cry for finding common ground
beware her cry of unity
beware her cry of bridge building
and of co exist
and her cry of love which has and is their common ground and THE LIE which all who rejected
the love of the truth WILL BUY and be damned . Beware her
for she cometh claoked in wool and in love , BUT her love DOES DENY the very gospel and TRUTH OF GOD ALL MIGHTY

It is a questioned designed to know what you really believe and how it "fits" together.

No. Eve wasn't a harlot but your theology treats her like one......

 

[brightfame52]

However, you're conflating hardening with the purpose of sinfulness.

He harden him to disobey His command, which is sin. You do realize disobedience to God is sin dont you ?

 

[praise_yeshua]

He harden him to disobey His command, which is sin. You do realize disobedience to God is sin dont you ?

You said.....
"You do realize disobedience to God is sin dont you ?"

I never said otherwise.

You also said

"He harden him to disobey His command, which is sin."

That is your conflation. Nothing otherwise. You believe God targeted Pharaoh for reprobation when all God did was "give Pharaoh over" to his own ways.

It was Pharaoh's way. Not God's way. Stop saying that God wanted His way with Pharaoh. That is YOUR mistake.

Rom 1:28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

 

[civic]

You said.....
"You do realize disobedience to God is sin dont you ?"

I never said otherwise.

You also said

"He harden him to disobey His command, which is sin."

That is your conflation. Nothing otherwise. You believe God targeted Pharaoh for reprobation when all God did was "give Pharaoh over" to his own ways.

It was Pharaoh's way. Not God's way. Stop saying that God wanted His way with Pharaoh. That is YOUR mistake.

Rom 1:28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

Yes Pharoah is exactly like we read in Romans 1 where God turns them over to their hardened reprobate mind.

 

[brightfame52]

You said.....
"You do realize disobedience to God is sin dont you ?"

I never said otherwise.

You also said

"He harden him to disobey His command, which is sin."

That is your conflation. Nothing otherwise. You believe God targeted Pharaoh for reprobation when all God did was "give Pharaoh over" to his own ways.

It was Pharaoh's way. Not God's way. Stop saying that God wanted His way with Pharaoh. That is YOUR mistake.

Rom 1:28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

You just want to argue to be arguing.

 

[civic]

You just want to argue to be arguing.

Projecting

 

[praise_yeshua]

You just want to argue to be arguing.

No. It is important to recognize the difference in what I said and what you said. You're living in a very small "space" brother. You don't have to. You can change.

 

[Marvelloustime]

Some might be thinking , oh we got us a hater and a babbler on our hands .
YEAH but always remember exactly WHO I pointed too and WHOSE WORDS I USED .
and beleive me , we sure dont want to call JESUS a liar . FOR ALL who do so call GOD A LIAR .
ITS HIS WORDS i use . so no more sipping from that ecumenical whores cup .
THAT HARLOT has made broad the road to GOD through a harlots love which will damn all who drank its lie .

@Tothalordbeallglory
“Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭17‬:‭18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[praise_yeshua]

@Tothalordbeallglory
“Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭17‬:‭18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I know you responded to another but I'd like to recognize that the preaching of Jesus the Resurrection doesn't actually require the OT. To a Jew. Yes it does.

To a Gentile. Nope.

Recognize that Paul here is dealing with Gentiles

Notice I said "require". I'm not saying that the OT can't be referenced in preaching Christ. It can and probably should be today. However, when dealing with those at that time in the context of their experience. Paul referenced their own poets.

These people believed in many gods but they were not fools that denied the very existence of God. There was hope for them. The God they ignorantly referenced, needed to be explain to them with means they understood themselves.

Paul said very clearly, that he became "all things to all men" that he might "gain some".

This context that exists among Calvinists and Arminians...... where "they" distance themselves from humanity in salvation is nothing but nonsense. We are our brother's keepers. If we do not preach the Gospel there are no converts.

I heard a man say many years ago that the "fruit of a Christian, is another Christian". I can accept that to a degree. I don't believe everyone should be out in the field planting seed. Some need to stand still and keep growing to show humanity what God's work can do for them.

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

It is a questioned designed to know what you really believe and how it "fits" together.

No. Eve wasn't a harlot but your theology treats her like one......

wrong again . Now shun that
interfaith ecumincal whores cup far far away my friend .
You grasping big time now .
its sad too . I desire good for you
and its like watching a man sinking in a sand pit and rather than grabbing hold of the line
whereby another is trying to help pull him out
he keeps grabbing hold of the very grains of sand he is sinking in and throwing them at the one t rying to help him .
SHUN the all inclusive ecumincal whore and her doctrine before forever it is too late .
SHE has infiltrated all the jewish mov ments , all denominations .
Even the false religoins themselves . Kings and presidents , prime ministirs
and all she has influenced .
Trump and jared kushner aint saving squat , THEY DUPING you all .
As do and did media .
AND THEY all act like they against one another and for the people.
They keep you all divided so as they can keep you all decieved and not rather watching them .
OUR CHURCHES have failed us
ITS BIBLE TIME IN THE HOUSE . stop picking and choosing what apostel
or whatever . Open and read for thinself .

 

[praise_yeshua]

wrong again . Now shun that
interfaith ecumincal whores cup far far away my friend .
You grasping big time now .
its sad too . I desire good for you
and its like watching a man sinking in a sand pit and rather than grabbing hold of the line
whereby another is trying to help pull him out
he keeps grabbing hold of the very grains of sand he is sinking in and throwing them at the one t rying to help him .
SHUN the all inclusive ecumincal whore and her doctrine before forever it is too late .
SHE has infiltrated all the jewish mov ments , all denominations .
Even the false religoins themselves . Kings and presidents , prime ministirs
and all she has influenced .
Trump and jared kushner aint saving squat , THEY DUPING you all .
As do and did media .
AND THEY all act like they against one another and for the people.
They keep you all divided so as they can keep you all decieved and not rather watching them .
OUR CHURCHES have failed us
ITS BIBLE TIME IN THE HOUSE . stop picking and choosing what apostel
or whatever . Open and read for thinself .

I bet I've read it more than you have. I appreciate the kindness.

I disagree with you. Your theology presents your mother Eve as a harlot. She is the mother of all living.

Since you blame her for your sin, tell me where I'm wrong?

 

[Joe]

False, He did with Pharaoh

Please quote God's command that hardened Pharaoh's heart to sin against Him. You cannot because it is not in the bible. God did not command Pharaoh's heart to be hard-strengthened against Him. He said He would harden-strengthen it.

So, what action did God take that hardened Pharaoh's heart to resist His command to let his people go?

Answer: God did not show him any mercy or compassion. The actions God took were not to convince Pharaoh to repent but strengthen him in his determination to resist Him. God did not cause him to sin. He was already a sinner who was resistive from the start. God simply acted in such a way that used Pharaoh's sinfulness to show His power and spread His name in all the earth.

Pharaoh was already harden towards God when Moses and Aaron first approached and gave Him God's command. Pharaoh said, "Who is the LORD, that I should obey His voice to let Israel go? I do not know the LORD, nor will I let Israel go."

The ten plagues demonstrated God's sovereignty over Egypt's false gods, and Pharaoh who was considered a god. Six of the ten plagues (1-5,7) Pharaoh hardened his own heart. The remaining four (6,8-10) God hardened his heart. Pharaoh could have repented after six of the ten plagues, but he only hardened-strengthened his own determination to resist God. And God did not sin against Pharaoh, or make Pharaoh sin when he didn't show him mercy or compassion in His actions that would have softened Pharaoh's heart towards him; this is what God meant when He said He would harden Pharaoh's heart. God's intentions towards Pharaoh were to use his willing sinfulness against himself. It was not to use His power to cause him to sin.

Man is responsible for his own actions. No one can blame God for what he has done, even when God decides to withhold mercy and compassion that would have caused man to reconsider his actions.

My claim that God never decrees that man sin against Him is not false. Like I have already stated to you, God's decretive will cannot conflict with His permissive will. God never decrees that man sin against Him (for He would be the cause of the sin), but He permits it to accomplish His decretive will.

God Bless

 

[brightfame52]

Please quote God's command that hardened Pharaoh's heart to sin against Him. You cannot because it is not in the bible. God did not command Pharaoh's heart to be hard-strengthened against Him. He said He would harden-strengthen it

There's no quote

 

[Joe]

WHY was CHRIST condemned to Death???

Hello Brother,

Here is the answer to your question: For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. (Joh 3:16-17)

Jesus Christ our Lord died in accordance to our Father's will to save all those who would believe in Him.

God Bless

 

[brightfame52]

Jesus Christ our Lord died in accordance to our Father's will to save all those who would believe in Him.

Believing in Him is the fruit of Christ having died for an individual.