Mark 16:16~"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Doug Brents said:
There are three distinct and different manifestations that refer to each other separately and as individuals. It is similar to a marriage in which you have two individuals, but they are united (or are supposed to be) to the point that they have one mission, one purpose, one power, and one glory.
Col 2:9 - "For in Him [Jesus] all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form", yet He prayed to the Father who was still in Heaven.
Rom 1:20 - "For since the creation of the world His [the Father's] invisible attributes, that is, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, being understood by what has been made, so that they are without excuse."
Acts 17:29 - "Therefore, since we are the descendants of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature [God] is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by human skill and thought."
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Per Col 2:9, this is after the ascension. God now speaks and works from within Jesus.

That is what it says.
 
Truther said:
Per Col 2:9, this is after the ascension. God now speaks and works from within Jesus.

That is what it says.
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John 14:16–17 (KJV 1900) — 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
 
Truther said:
Per Col 2:9, this is after the ascension. God now speaks and works from within Jesus.

That is what it says.
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No, Col 2:9 is not referring to Jesus after His ascension. Jesus was fully God and fully man while He was here on Earth in human form. He left Earth still incarnate, still in human form, and He still lives and exists today. So Paul is speaking in the present tense of Jesus who still lives, and that He, while in human form, had and has the full deity of God within Him.
 
TomL said:
John 14:16–17 (KJV 1900) — 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
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Next verse...

18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
 
Doug Brents said:
No, Col 2:9 is not referring to Jesus after His ascension. Jesus was fully God and fully man while He was here on Earth in human form. He left Earth still incarnate, still in human form, and He still lives and exists today. So Paul is speaking in the present tense of Jesus who still lives, and that He, while in human form, had and has the full deity of God within Him.
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No, this is exactly what Col 2:9 is saying before modern theology tweaks it with extra Biblical jargon....


9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
 
TomL said:
You cannot erase the word

Another

Experiencing the Spirit presence who they receive would be like experiencing Christ's presense
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2 Holy Ghosts. I see what you teach.

Isn’t the 1st person also a Holy Spirit since the other 2 persons are?
 
Truther said:
Jesus has an omnipresent spirit body that God resides in.

This happened when Jesus was made a quickening spirit.
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Jesus was only SPIRIT until He was incarnate in the child born to Mary. Upon His incarnation, He was both physical man and God at the same time. In His physical flesh the full deity of God resides. He is not just God after His ascension, but while He was in the flesh as well, He is God.
 
Doug Brents said:
Jesus was only SPIRIT until He was incarnate in the child born to Mary. Upon His incarnation, He was both physical man and God at the same time. In His physical flesh the full deity of God resides. He is not just God after His ascension, but while He was in the flesh as well, He is God.
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Which part of Jesus’ humanity was God and which was not?

Does God have a humanity attachment?

Is it omnipresent humanity or a little scab like attachment?
 
Truther said:
Which part of Jesus’ humanity was God and which was not?
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All of Jesus' humanity was God. There was no part of Him that was not God. But there also was no part of Him that was not man.
Truther said:
Does God have a humanity attachment?

Is it omnipresent humanity or a little scab like attachment?
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Jesus reduced Himself, emptied Himself, of all the power, omnipresence, omniscience, and omnipotence that are His by right as God. He was not omnipresent as a man. He only did any of His miracles and obtained all of His supernatural knowledge from the Holy Spirit (Matt 12:28, John 3:31-34 and many more).
 
Truther said:
2 Holy Ghosts. I see what you teach.

Isn’t the 1st person also a Holy Spirit since the other 2 persons are?
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Nope

do you require dictionary help

an·oth·er
used to refer to an additional person or thing of the same type as one already mentioned or known about; one more; a further:
  1. "have another drink" · "I didn't say another word" · "170 miles done, only another 100 to go"
    Similar:
    one more
    a further
    an additional
    a second
    an extra
    a spare
  2. used to refer to a different person or thing from one already mentioned or known about:
 
Doug Brents said:
All of Jesus' humanity was God. There was no part of Him that was not God. But there also was no part of Him that was not man.

Jesus reduced Himself, emptied Himself, of all the power, omnipresence, omniscience, and omnipotence that are His by right as God. He was not omnipresent as a man. He only did any of His miracles and obtained all of His supernatural knowledge from the Holy Spirit (Matt 12:28, John 3:31-34 and many more).
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So God has weakened Himself with the voluntary infiltration of humanity?

I did not know God has a 'human element" to His being.

Jesus had a different take on his description of what God consists of...


24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
 
TomL said:
Nope

do you require dictionary help

an·oth·er
used to refer to an additional person or thing of the same type as one already mentioned or known about; one more; a further:
  1. "have another drink" · "I didn't say another word" · "170 miles done, only another 100 to go"
    Similar:
    one more
    a further
    an additional
    a second
    an extra
    a spare
  2. used to refer to a different person or thing from one already mentioned or known about:
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No, you have 3 holy Spirits, Tom....unless you think are not.
 

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