Do those word appear anywhere in scripture?
Mark 16:16~"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
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Truther
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The command in Matthew is to baptize in the name of the son. Do you know what that name that you are commanded to baptize in is?
I think phrase means by his authority
In Mat 28:19 baptism is by the authority of Father, Son and Holy Ghost
The triune God as stated elsewhere
Did you read the verse?
Matthew 28:19 (ESV) — 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Truther
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Jesus commanded his disciples to baptized in the name of the son. The name of the son is Jesus. Did you know that?
Truther
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But is highly unlikely that you have been baptized in the name of the son… Jesus.
I was baptized by the authority of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit
immersed in a Church of Christ.
(so called immersion is one of the valid ways to baptize along with sprinkling and pouring)
If that is not good enough for your that is your problem
Care to quote someone who stated their name was Jesus?
Doug Brents
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Because that is what Scripture says. Baptism is an act of faith that God says brings about salvation. The water does not save, but if you do not pass through the water you are not saved.
Not according to Scripture. Without action faith is dead (James 2:26). Dead faith cannot save. Faith (alive and active) must precede the reception of salvation (Eph 2:8).
Again, not according to Scripture.
You have said it many times, but I'll forgive you the lie.
Faith is trust and the actions that it engenders. Without the actions then faith does not really exist. If you don't get in the wheelbarrow, then you don't really trust the man pushing it across the tightrope. Jesus is pushing the wheelbarrow, salvation is on the other side of the tightrope, but if you don't get in the wheelbarrow, then you remain on the lost side of the chasm. The wheelbarrow is repentance, confession of Jesus as Lord, and baptism. THAT is trust. THAT is what is required according to Scripture.
Um many verses say faith saves and teach forgiveness of sin and salvation upon faith
Sorry faith pre-exists any act it leads to
Faith is alive before it acts or the act does not come about
I don't need your forgiveness and if you talk about lies you will be reported
it is rather obvious faith which will cause you to get into the wheelbarrow must pre-exist getting into the wheelbarrow
Getting in the wheelbarrow does not make your faith alive.
it was living or you would never get in the wheelbarrow
Doug Brents
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Show me your faith without works? It cannot be done. I will show you my faith with my works. Faith is made complete through works. Without works faith is incomplete, and thus dead. Dead faith cannot save. Living faith must precede salvation.
Again, that is not what Scripture says (James 2:14-26).
Totally missing the point
that speaks of a demonstration of faith but it is not a prooftext for the non-existence of faith
Abrahams faith was alive, not dead before the demonstration of it.
Further nowhere does scripture state the only way faith can be shown to be living is by water baptism.
Simon was water baptism and apparently unsaved
Sorry James speaks of a said faith not true faith
True faith drives one to act, but it precedes the act
Again you are talking about a demonstration not existence
Can you claim Abraham had a dead faith which was then made alive by what he did
further nowhere is it stated water baptism proves one has a living faith
you are reading that into the text
No, it is not
Matthew 28:19 (ESV) — 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
