Jesus the Man Before John !

[TomL]

The Lord Jesus Christ was and is both Man and God. Now as God He is uncreated, self existing, very God of very God ! But as Man, He was the first created before creation, I believe scripture indicates this Rev 3:14

And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

This speaks of the Man Christ Jesus as Mediator 1 Tim 2:5

5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

This Mediatorial Manhood was not derived from mary when He born of a virgin in time, but this Manhood as Mediator began the Creation of God for Creation. 7

You are half right

The Lord Jesus Christ was and is both Man and God. Now as God He is uncreated, self existing, very God of very God ! But as Man, He was the first created before creation, I believe scripture indicates this Rev 3:14

Revelation 3:14 (LEB) — 14 “And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: “This is what the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the originator of God’s creation, says:

 

[brightfame52]

Yes but they really arer angels or God

Jesus is God/Angel before the incarnation

 

[brightfame52]

You are half right

The Lord Jesus Christ was and is both Man and God. Now as God He is uncreated, self existing, very God of very God ! But as Man, He was the first created before creation, I believe scripture indicates this Rev 3:14

Revelation 3:14 (LEB) — 14 “And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: “This is what the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the originator of God’s creation, says:

This Mediatorial Manhood was not derived from mary when He born of a virgin in time, but this Manhood as Mediator began the Creation of God for Creation.

 

[TomL]

Jesus is God/Angel before the incarnation

Yes Jesus is God

and the angel of the lord who is God and YHWH

 

[TomL]

This Mediatorial Manhood was not derived from mary when He born of a virgin in time, but this Manhood as Mediator began the Creation of God for Creation.

He was not man until the incarnation