Jesus taught Provisional Atonement

[TibiasDad]

He will convict the world of sin, that part of regeneration and conversion ! Of course you know the world is the elect, Sheep. Christ didn't pray for the world in General Jn 17:9 The world of Jn 16:8-10 He prayed for.. The Spirit convinces sinners Christ died for of their need of a Saviour and righteousness Christ gives them

You are going beyond what is written…in hermeneutical terms, it’s eisegesis!


Doug

 

[brightfame52]

You are going beyond what is written…in hermeneutical terms, it’s eisegesis!


Doug

Thats just your opinion, yet you been teaching that passage without understanding it at all.

 

[TomL]

You bucking against the work of the Spirit in Salvation, Jn 16:8-10 is the Spirit drawing to Christ and converting, persuading to believe in Him

Nowhere does the verse state the Spirit does other than convict the world of truth

The passage says nothing about sheep

and Hear spiritually is another phrase you invented

 

[civic]

You are going beyond what is written…in hermeneutical terms, it’s eisegesis!


Doug

That’s it exactly and the audacity to call it the gospel. There is nothing in the flower that resembles the gospel

 

[civic]

Nowhere does the verse state the Spirit does other than convict the world of truth

The passage says nothing about sheep

and Hear spiritually is another phrase you invented

Yes it’s the usual eisegesis

 

[brightfame52]

Nowhere does the verse state the Spirit does other than convict the world of truth

The passage says nothing about sheep

and Hear spiritually is another phrase you invented

You bucking against the work of the Spirit in Salvation, Jn 16:8-10 is the Spirit drawing to Christ and converting, persuading to believe in Him

 

[civic]

You bucking against the work of the Spirit in Salvation, Jn 16:8-10 is the Spirit drawing to Christ and converting, persuading to believe in Him

You just denied tulip lol .

 

[TomL]

You bucking against the work of the Spirit in Salvation, Jn 16:8-10 is the Spirit drawing to Christ and converting, persuading to believe in Him

Nowhere does the verse state the Spirit does other than convict the world of truth

The passage says nothing about sheep

and Hear spiritually is another phrase you invented

 

[TomL]

You just denied tulip lol .

And irresistible grace persuading (convicting) instead

 

[TomL]

Yes it’s the usual eisegesis

From the eisegesis master

 

[brightfame52]

You just denied tulip lol .

You bucking against the work of the Spirit in Salvation, Jn 16:8-10 is the Spirit drawing to Christ and converting, persuading to believe in Him

 

[civic]

You bucking against the work of the Spirit in Salvation, Jn 16:8-10 is the Spirit drawing to Christ and converting, persuading to believe in Him

nope it doesn't say what you claim- you must be a universalist.

John 16- 8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 about sin, because people do not believe in me; 10 about righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; 11 and about judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.

 

[brightfame52]

Nowhere does the verse state the Spirit does other than convict the world of truth

The passage says nothing about sheep

and Hear spiritually is another phrase you invented

You bucking against the work of the Spirit in Salvation, Jn 16:8-10 is the Spirit drawing to Christ and converting, persuading to believe in Him

 

[brightfame52]

nope it doesn't say what you claim- you must be a universalist.

John 16- 8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 about sin, because people do not believe in me; 10 about righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; 11 and about judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.

You bucking against the work of the Spirit in Salvation, Jn 16:8-10 is the Spirit drawing to Christ and converting, persuading to believe in Him

 

[civic]

You bucking against the work of the Spirit in Salvation, Jn 16:8-10 is the Spirit drawing to Christ and converting, persuading to believe in Him

You don't understand the passage.

 

[TomL]

You bucking against the work of the Spirit in Salvation, Jn 16:8-10 is the Spirit drawing to Christ and converting, persuading to believe in Him

No just your twisting

Nowhere does the verse state the Spirit does other than convict the world of truth

The passage says nothing about sheep

and Hear spiritually is another phrase you invented

 

[brightfame52]

You don't understand the passage.

I do but you dont

 

[brightfame52]

No just your twisting

Nowhere does the verse state the Spirit does other than convict the world of truth

The passage says nothing about sheep

and Hear spiritually is another phrase you invented

You bucking against the work of the Spirit in Salvation, Jn 16:8-10 is the Spirit drawing to Christ and converting, persuading to believe in Him

 

[TomL]

You bucking against the work of the Spirit in Salvation, Jn 16:8-10 is the Spirit drawing to Christ and converting, persuading to believe in Him

No just your twisting

Nowhere does the verse state the Spirit does other than convict the world of truth

The passage says nothing about sheep

and Hear spiritually is another phrase you invented

 

[brightfame52]

No just your twisting

Nowhere does the verse state the Spirit does other than convict the world of truth

The passage says nothing about sheep

and Hear spiritually is another phrase you invented

You bucking against the work of the Spirit in Salvation, Jn 16:8-10 is the Spirit drawing to Christ and converting, persuading to believe in Him