praise_yeshua
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Or very young.
Jesus denied being God
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Or very young.
civic
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Amen !!!
Peterlag
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Yes the Scriptures support my position.
Peterlag
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I fellowship with both God and the Christ.
Peterlag
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The image of God is spirit and it was spirit that He put in Adam and Eve when He created them.
praise_yeshua
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That is not what I asked. Does Jesus Christ answer your prayers?
Joh 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
praise_yeshua
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All things are made up of parts. Life comes from "spirit". Spirit is confined to our flesh. There is a new life in the Spiritual seed of being "born again".
Adam did not have that "new life" when he was formed from the dust nor when God breathed into Adam the "breath of life".
civic
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He answer mine quite often.
. and sometimes the answer is no or wait.praise_yeshua
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Peterlag
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I answered the question. You just don't understand it probably because you fellowship with yourself.
Peterlag
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Does it not say God made man in His image? What do you think that means? That God looks like a man?
praise_yeshua
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That isn't an answer. Fellowship doesn't require prayer. It may include it but it does not require it. In fact, there are times when we have to find peace in fellowship when Christ does not answer us.
If you've fellowshipped with Christ, you should know that HE is often more than enough to satisfy us regardless if we get what we want or not.
That is real fellowship.
praise_yeshua
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You really haven't given this much thought at all.
First you should notice the "US" in that Scripture. Us is plural. Not singular. Can you at least acknowledge this fact?
What we see in the flesh now is not what Adam was entirely. You do realize that Adam lived over 900 years right? Adam lived to see and fellowship with Enoch.
Maybe you don't know this. In fact, I bet you don't. Mankind has devolved since Adam. So don't judge Adam but what you see now.
Adam was innocent. However, Adam wasn't complete. The proof is in the fact Adam sinned.
If Adam was made in the exact image of God, then how is it possible that Adam sinned?
Runningman
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That wasn't the lie. The lie was they wouldn't die, contrary to God saying they would die in Genesis 2:17. How can you not see this? God Himself said the man had become as "one of us." The strong delusion is real, folks.
Genesis 3 (KJV)
22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Runningman
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So your idea of worship is just fall down and that's it? Jesus taught us it's spirit and truth to the Father only.
John 4
23But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Runningman
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Which part is a lie according to you?
Pancho and I have a lot in common. Why do you want to divide brothers against one another? Scripture says God hates that.
Proverbs 6
16These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
Romans 16
17Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
You're free to believe that. You will be humbled soon. All those who reject the Father as the only true God will be humbled by God at their judgement.
Jesus had already been with them before they had finally "now" seen the Father. Looking at Jesus is not the same as looking at the Father. It refers to knowing the Father by knowing His son.
John 14
7If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Nope.
Runningman
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Scripture says prayer goes to the Father:
Matthew 6
6But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
9After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Jesus said the Father answers the prayers:
Matthew 7
11If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
Matthew 18
19Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven
John 15
16Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
John 16
23And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.
James says things come from the Father:James 1
17Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
praise_yeshua
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That Jesus Christ is not God Incarnate.
Do you even think before you respond. You embrace him and reject me. Physician, heal thyself.
Ah.... getting angry and claiming judgement on your enemies (even when they're you're brother) is nothing new. Just a matter of time when you can't defend your position. Do you think God likes it when you do this? You're not like @Pancho Frijoles in this.
Ah... it just keeps getting worse with you. You're actually claiming they didn't see the Father in Christ from the beginning. The Son expressed the Father from the beginning. What "son" came straight up out of the baptismal waters into the sky being confirmed by the very voice of the Father?
Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
Glad you admit that you have no worship with the Father apart from the Son.
praise_yeshua
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Selective reading..... That is what cults do. They selectively quote what Jesus said.
Joh 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
Joh 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
Add John 14 to your reading comprehension.
MTMattie
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You have to have a certain standing which you dont. And neither do I BTW.
The liturgy recalls the ancient Temple sacrifices and the way the High Priest and the people would prostrate themselves (lie face down on the floor) when the name of God was said,
In the Gospel of Matthew as recounting the story of the Magi coming to pay homage to the newborn King Jesus. It should be noted that the wise men were very wise indeed, as they did not pay homage to King Herod, but slipped away to avoid him. They did not even pay homage to Herod in the first meeting; instead, they sought only Jesus. When they finally found Jesus, they prostrated themselves before Him bearing gifts.
Prostration is a rare and powerful gesture at Catholic liturgies, performed only by those being ordained priests or deacons, or by priests and deacons at the start of the Good Friday liturgy.
, Carthusian monks prostrate themselves during the Consecration at Mass. Dominicans likewise prostrate themselves before the altar at Mass during the "Ecce Agnus Dei" in what is known as the Venia [1].
John in Rev 4:
The Throne and Worship of the Creator
5 Out from the throne come flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder. And there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God; 6 and before the throne there was something like a sea of glass, like crystal; and in the [c]center and around the throne, four living creatures full of eyes in front and behind. 7 The first creature was like a lion, and the second creature like a calf, and the third creature had a face like that of a man, and the fourth creature was like a flying eagle. 8 And the four living creatures, each one of them having six wings, are full of eyes around and within; and day and night [d]they do not cease to say,“Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God, the Almighty, who was and who is and who [e]is to come.”
9 And when the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to Him who sits on the throne, to Him who lives forever and ever, 10 the twenty-four elders will fall down before Him who sits on the throne, and will worship Him who lives forever and ever, and will cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
11 “Worthy are You, our Lord and our God, to receive glory and honor and power; for You created all things, and because of Your will they [f]existed, and were created.”
