Israel is the Elect of God

[brightfame52]

At the time God spoke these words in Deut. 7:6 there was only the great congregation of over three million Jews in the desert at the time of the Tabernacle. The children of Israel is the Church (called out of Egypt) of God. She is also the Bride (betrothed) to God.
But you prove my point. Gentiles have taken what belongs to Israel and have made it all apply to them.
That's called inheritance theft.

The promises were given to Abraham, then Isaac, and then Jacob, and then Jacob's children.

1 THE book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; Mt 1:1–2.

Judas is the tribe of Judah.
"Judah and his brethren" are the children of Jacob/Israel.

It was the Church, Gods Love is only in Christ Jesus, not nationality. See the Church was Loved and chosen in Christ before the foundation Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

See those same 3 things as in Deut 7 # Love, Chosen, Holy !

And of this same Church Paul says they are a peculiar people Titus 2:14

Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
That word peculiar is the greek word periousios:

1. that which is one's own, belonging to one's possessions
   
   1. a people selected by God from the other nations for his own possession

This is all said of the Church !

 

[mikesw]

You give too much glory to the "devil."

The "devil" cannot steal, kill, or destroy anything.

But sin can.

so you find Jesus wrong again. Not a surprise. Albeit, the passage may talk about the actions of the Pharisees, as the seed of Satan, instead of Satan directly

 

[jeremiah1five]

so you find Jesus wrong again. Not a surprise. Albeit, the passage may talk about the actions of the Pharisees, as the seed of Satan, instead of Satan directly

Pharisees weren't the seed of Satan. On the contrary. Acts 6 says "a great company of the priests were obedient to the faith" and a great company measures out to at least 51% of 70 members of the Sanhedrin - Saul included. And you fail to understand that God ordained that offspring is made "after their kind" and if over 51% of the Sanhedrin were born-again then this means God was always their Father.
None of us born-again are born into the world as Satan's seed, we become born-again and now we're God's seed.
Sheep are not born into the world as goats, become born again and now they're sheep. That's not how "after their kind" works.

 

[jeremiah1five]

It was the Church, Gods Love is only in Christ Jesus, not nationality. See the Church was Loved and chosen in Christ before the foundation Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

See those same 3 things as in Deut 7 # Love, Chosen, Holy !

And of this same Church Paul says they are a peculiar people Titus 2:14

Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
That word peculiar is the greek word periousios:

1. that which is one's own, belonging to one's possessions
   
   1. a people selected by God from the other nations for his own possession

This is all said of the Church !

It was through covenant that salvation became ethnic.
And that's still true today where the children of Israel are concerned. Jesus is born from the tribe of Judah and He came to save His brethren, all those who are from the seed of Abraham.

The Church is Israel. They were called the "Great Congregation" of over three million strong in the desert at the time of the Tabernacle. They were "called out" ("ekklesia") of Egypt by God. Then God "called out" ("ekklesia") His Son from out of Egypt, too.

One big happy Hebrew family.

 

[brightfame52]

It was through covenant that salvation became ethnic.
And that's still true today where the children of Israel are concerned. Jesus is born from the tribe of Judah and He came to save His brethren, all those who are from the seed of Abraham.

The Church is Israel. They were called the "Great Congregation" of over three million strong in the desert at the time of the Tabernacle. They were "called out" ("ekklesia") of Egypt by God. Then God "called out" ("ekklesia") His Son from out of Egypt, too.

One big happy Hebrew family.

It was the Church, Gods Love is only in Christ Jesus, not nationality. See the Church was Loved and chosen in Christ before the foundation Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

See those same 3 things as in Deut 7 # Love, Chosen, Holy !

And of this same Church Paul says they are a peculiar people Titus 2:14

Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
That word peculiar is the greek word periousios:

1. that which is one's own, belonging to one's possessions
   
   1. a people selected by God from the other nations for his own possession

This is all said of the Church !

 

[mikesw]

Pharisees weren't the seed of Satan. On the contrary. Acts 6 says "a great company of the priests were obedient to the faith" and a great company measures out to at least 51% of 70 members of the Sanhedrin - Saul included. And you fail to understand that God ordained that offspring is made "after their kind" and if over 51% of the Sanhedrin were born-again then this means God was always their Father.
None of us born-again are born into the world as Satan's seed, we become born-again and now we're God's seed.
Sheep are not born into the world as goats, become born again and now they're sheep. That's not how "after their kind" works.

Again, you like to contradict Jesus. It is not surprising you are so much in the dark. You are inasmuch as to note that some Pharisees came to know Christ. But if too many had done that, they would have corrupted the Christian message. The rest were the seed of Satan (Matt 3:7), as sort of the most direct one.
Again, for every point you get right, you get 10 points wrong. The priests are not noted to be Pharisees. So you "statistics" about priests has no contribution to the discussion. That demonic vision of yours has led you astray. But you trust that more than you trust scripture.

 

[jeremiah1five]

It was the Church, Gods Love is only in Christ Jesus, not nationality. See the Church was Loved and chosen in Christ before the foundation Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

See those same 3 things as in Deut 7 # Love, Chosen, Holy !

And of this same Church Paul says they are a peculiar people Titus 2:14

Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
That word peculiar is the greek word periousios:

1. that which is one's own, belonging to one's possessions
   
   1. a people selected by God from the other nations for his own possession

This is all said of the Church !

Yes, and the Church are the seed of Abram the Hebrew.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Again, you like to contradict Jesus. It is not surprising you are so much in the dark. You are inasmuch as to note that some Pharisees came to know Christ.

7 And the word of God increased; and the number of the disciples multiplied in Jerusalem greatly; and a great company of the priests were obedient to the faith. Acts 6:7.

But if too many had done that, they would have corrupted the Christian message.

No one corrupted the "message."
Jews that became born-again continued to be obedient to the Law of God in a new and living way.

20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law: Acts 21:20.

Even Saul, after meeting the Lord on the road to Damascus, remained faithful to the Law of Moses in a new and living way.

24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law. Acts 21:23–24.

The rest were the seed of Satan (Matt 3:7), as sort of the most direct one.
Again, for every point you get right, you get 10 points wrong. The priests are not noted to be Pharisees. So you "statistics" about priests has no contribution to the discussion. That demonic vision of yours has led you astray. But you trust that more than you trust scripture.

Unlikely.
It was a Jewish covenant with a Jewish Messiah and a Jewish King and what happened on the day of the Jewish Feast of Harvest was prophesied by a Jewish prophet about a Holy Spirit of Promise (promised to Israel) that arrived to SEAL the deal.

13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. Eph 1:12–14.

 

[mikesw]

7 And the word of God increased; and the number of the disciples multiplied in Jerusalem greatly; and a great company of the priests were obedient to the faith. Acts 6:7.

No one corrupted the "message."
Jews that became born-again continued to be obedient to the Law of God in a new and living way.

20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law: Acts 21:20.

Even Saul, after meeting the Lord on the road to Damascus, remained faithful to the Law of Moses in a new and living way.

24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law. Acts 21:23–24.

Unlikely.
It was a Jewish covenant with a Jewish Messiah and a Jewish King and what happened on the day of the Jewish Feast of Harvest was prophesied by a Jewish prophet about a Holy Spirit of Promise (promised to Israel) that arrived to SEAL the deal.

13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. Eph 1:12–14.

you seem to read only a few verses but miss the whole context. you do not recognize your errors when pointed out. You need to accept correction until you can start working on being consistent to what scripture says. Most of the time you reject the scriptures but when you use scriptures you use them out of context. Your vision has led you far astray but you keep holding to it.

 

[brightfame52]

Yes, and the Church are the seed of Abram the Hebrew.

It was the Church, Gods Love is only in Christ Jesus, not nationality. See the Church was Loved and chosen in Christ before the foundation Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

See those same 3 things as in Deut 7 # Love, Chosen, Holy !

And of this same Church Paul says they are a peculiar people Titus 2:14

Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
That word peculiar is the greek word periousios:

1. that which is one's own, belonging to one's possessions
   
   1. a people selected by God from the other nations for his own possession

This is all said of the Church !

 

[jeremiah1five]

you seem to read only a few verses but miss the whole context. you do not recognize your errors when pointed out. You need to accept correction until you can start working on being consistent to what scripture says. Most of the time you reject the scriptures but when you use scriptures you use them out of context. Your vision has led you far astray but you keep holding to it.

Scripture cannot be broken.
And Scripture records God and Abraham and his seed in covenant.
There are no Gentiles in the Mosaic Covenant or the New Covenant.
Any interpretation of the Old Testament using the New Covenant writings from Matthew to Revelation that teaches Gentiles in any of the Hebrew covenants is a lie.
It is the interpretations of the Old Testament by Gentiles that contradict what is written in the Old Testament that are in error. The New Covenant Scripture itself does not contradict the Old Testament. And the Old Testament does not record or include non-Hebrew Gentiles in any of the three Hebrew covenants.
You interpretations and the interpretations by Gentiles contradict what is written in the Law, Psalms, and the Prophets.

 

[jeremiah1five]

It was the Church, Gods Love is only in Christ Jesus, not nationality. See the Church was Loved and chosen in Christ before the foundation Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

See those same 3 things as in Deut 7 # Love, Chosen, Holy !

And of this same Church Paul says they are a peculiar people Titus 2:14

Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
That word peculiar is the greek word periousios:

1. that which is one's own, belonging to one's possessions
   
   1. a people selected by God from the other nations for his own possession

This is all said of the Church !

And the Church of "called out [ones]" are the children of Israel.

 

[brightfame52]

And the Church of "called out [ones]" are the children of Israel.

The Children of Israel the Church is here Eph 5:25-32

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:

30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

 

[mikesw]

Scripture cannot be broken.
And Scripture records God and Abraham and his seed in covenant.
There are no Gentiles in the Mosaic Covenant or the New Covenant.
Any interpretation of the Old Testament using the New Covenant writings from Matthew to Revelation that teaches Gentiles in any of the Hebrew covenants is a lie.
It is the interpretations of the Old Testament by Gentiles that contradict what is written in the Old Testament that are in error. The New Covenant Scripture itself does not contradict the Old Testament. And the Old Testament does not record or include non-Hebrew Gentiles in any of the three Hebrew covenants.
You interpretations and the interpretations by Gentiles contradict what is written in the Law, Psalms, and the Prophets.

That is so stupid. I'm sorry that your observations of the New Testament are so skewed to have to say your ideas are stupid. You are saying that Christ has to be wrong so that your views be thought true. That vision of yours has driven you mad -- and I note that in case you maybe can be freed from it.

 

[jeremiah1five]

That is so stupid. I'm sorry that your observations of the New Testament are so skewed to have to say your ideas are stupid. You are saying that Christ has to be wrong so that your views be thought true. That vision of yours has driven you mad -- and I note that in case you maybe can be freed from it.

For the Jews, their bible is found in the writings from Genesis to Malachi.
The Gentile error is to use the New Testament to validate the Old Testament when it is the Old Testament that is used to validate the New Testament.
Do you even know why and how the New Testament came into existence?
And try to get beyond the Gentile explanations. They will trip you up.

 

[mikesw]

For the Jews, their bible is found in the writings from Genesis to Malachi.
The Gentile error is to use the New Testament to validate the Old Testament when it is the Old Testament that is used to validate the New Testament.
Do you even know why and how the New Testament came into existence?
And try to get beyond the Gentile explanations. They will trip you up.

Maybe you will figure it out. The two parts of the bible form a single unified book in light of Christ. God did not just end the universe when he saved the remnant in completion of the Mosaic covenant. God also extended benefits to all peoples. Keep on reading and try to break free of the evil spirit that has been directing you. You do get some things right but then are like a vinyl record that keeps skipping back to the previous groove and never finishing the song.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Maybe you will figure it out. The two parts of the bible form a single unified book in light of Christ. God did not just end the universe when he saved the remnant in completion of the Mosaic covenant.

When Christ said, "It is finished" from the cross He ended the redemption promised to the children of Israel.

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Gal. 4:4–5.

That was His whole purpose in the giving the children of Israel the Law and the sacrificial system of atonement that prefigured the final atonement for their sins eternally.

God also extended benefits to all peoples.

Gentile lie. Galatians 4:4-5.

Keep on reading and try to break free of the evil spirit that has been directing you. You do get some things right but then are like a vinyl record that keeps skipping back to the previous groove and never finishing the song.

God did say He was going to send Gentiles a strong delusion that they will believe a lie, a lie that Gentiles are in covenant with God when they are not.

Abrahamic Covenant: Between God, Abraham, and his seed.
Mosaic Covenant: Between God and the children of Israel.
New Covenant: Between God and the House of Israel and the House of Judah.

That's it. That's all.
Spank you very much.

 

[brightfame52]

When Christ said, "It is finished" from the cross He ended the redemption promised to the children of Israel.

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Gal. 4:4–5.

That was His whole purpose in the giving the children of Israel the Law and the sacrificial system of atonement that prefigured the final atonement for their sins eternally.

Gentile lie. Galatians 4:4-5.

God did say He was going to send Gentiles a strong delusion that they will believe a lie, a lie that Gentiles are in covenant with God when they are not.

Abrahamic Covenant: Between God, Abraham, and his seed.
Mosaic Covenant: Between God and the children of Israel.
New Covenant: Between God and the House of Israel and the House of Judah.

That's it. That's all.
Spank you very much.

Jewish fables

 

[mikesw]

When Christ said, "It is finished" from the cross He ended the redemption promised to the children of Israel.

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Gal. 4:4–5.

That was His whole purpose in the giving the children of Israel the Law and the sacrificial system of atonement that prefigured the final atonement for their sins eternally.

Gentile lie. Galatians 4:4-5.

God did say He was going to send Gentiles a strong delusion that they will believe a lie, a lie that Gentiles are in covenant with God when they are not.

Abrahamic Covenant: Between God, Abraham, and his seed.
Mosaic Covenant: Between God and the children of Israel.
New Covenant: Between God and the House of Israel and the House of Judah.

That's it. That's all.
Spank you very much.

I am waiting for you to start reading what scripture says rather than what you want to cover up. You are not ready for the truth yet. There is only so much you can distrust of God and still be considered obedient to God
Again, if you have nothing to share for building up people, why on earth do you keep tearing apart?

 

[brightfame52]

The Gentile Church is revealed to be Israel. Paul primarily raised up as an Apostle to the Gentiles, for which he experienced much suffering for, mostly from the jews, stated clearly that his bonds were for the Hope of Israel Acts 26:6-7,17-18

6 And now I stand and am judged for the hope of the promise made of God, unto our fathers:

7 Unto which promise our twelve tribes, instantly serving God day and night, hope to come. For which hope's sake, king Agrippa, I am accused of the Jews.

Notice the connection with his Gentile appointment in vs 17-18

17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,

18 To open their[Gentiles] eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

He says this is the Hope of Israel Acts 28:20

For this cause therefore have I called for you, to see you, and to speak with you: because that for the hope of Israel I am bound with this chain.

The Gentile Church is Israel ! The Mystery unveiled!