Israel is the Elect of God

[brightfame52]

So who do you think gave the Gospel to the Gentiles? The 12 Messianic Apostles did.
Christianity was born out of Judaism.
You really need to study your Bible so you can avoid the biases and false narratives.

Saved Jews, the Church gave the Gospel to the Gentiles, had nothing to do with their ethnicity, they were born again, and for the most part they were hated by the jews religion

 

[Richard]

God has not abandoned Israel; they have not fallen beyond recovery, indicating that His covenant with them remains intact.

Replacement theology believes that the church, through Jesus Christ, has replaced Israel when it comes to God’s purpose, plan and promises. But followers of this theory disregard much of what the Bible says about standing with Israel.

 

[Waylon]

 

[David Koberstein]

Friend you been deceived, national israel has been shelved, they like any other nation now. jews now are being saved in the times of the Gentiles as per any other ethnicity that belongs to Christ and the election of Grace.

You a fake Christian is telling me a Messianic Jew about the state of Israel. That in and of it self is laughable. I don't have any friends that are antisemitic, so I guess you are not my friend.
Shalom

 

[David Koberstein]

Saved Jews, the Church gave the Gospel to the Gentiles, had nothing to do with their ethnicity, they were born again, and for the most part they were hated by the jews religion

You are so fake and wrong. It had everything to do with their ethnicity. Read Deuteronomy 7:7 News Flash!! All the writers of the Bible with maybe Luke as an exception were all Jewish The Bible is a Jewish book written initially for Jews in the land of the Jews Isra'el.
You need to take your heresy and antisemitism down the road and sell it.
Shalom

 

[Rockerduck]

God has not abandoned Israel; they have not fallen beyond recovery, indicating that His covenant with them remains intact.

Replacement theology believes that the church, through Jesus Christ, has replaced Israel when it comes God’s purpose, plan and promises. But followers of this theory disregard much of what the Bible says about standing with Israel.

Israel will be destroyed. That's the last thing, then every knee will bow, and every tongue will confess Jesus as Lord.

Mark 11:12-14 -
Now the next day, when they had come out from Bethany, He was hungry. 13 And seeing from afar a fig tree having leaves, He went to see if perhaps He would find something on it. When He came to it, He found nothing but leaves, for it was not the season for figs. 14 In response Jesus said to it, “Let no one eat fruit from you ever again.” And His disciples heard it.

The fig tree represented Israel. I prayed about this, and the Holy Spirit told me that this is correct. Judaism is not to be taught, and in ad 70, Jesus made good on it.

 

[David Koberstein]

Saved Jews, the Church gave the Gospel to the Gentiles, had nothing to do with their ethnicity, they were born again, and for the most part they were hated by the jews religion

 

[David Koberstein]

Israel will be destroyed. That's the last thing, then every knee will bow, and every tongue will confess Jesus as Lord.

Mark 11:12-14 -
Now the next day, when they had come out from Bethany, He was hungry. 13 And seeing from afar a fig tree having leaves, He went to see if perhaps He would find something on it. When He came to it, He found nothing but leaves, for it was not the season for figs. 14 In response Jesus said to it, “Let no one eat fruit from you ever again.” And His disciples heard it.

The fig tree represented Israel. I prayed about this, and the Holy Spirit told me that this is correct. Judaism is not to be taught, and in ad 70, Jesus made good on it.

Really? Yeshua was a Jew and rabbi, that attended the Temple and partcipated in the activities there. Israel will never be destroyed in case you haven't figured that out by now. They are Adonai's chosen people. Why would he see them destroyed? More antisemitism from you. You real close for me putting you on ignore. I value my time and don't want to wasted on someone that is antisemitic or into replacement theology. That's a fancy name for antisemitism

 

[brightfame52]

You a fake Christian is telling me a Messianic Jew about the state of Israel. That in and of it self is laughable. I don't have any friends that are antisemitic, so I guess you are not my friend.
Shalom

Again, a jew will be saved like an African or China man or an Italian if they are one of Gods elect. Its you promoting ethnic superiority like a klansman

 

[brightfame52]

You are so fake and wrong. It had everything to do with their ethnicity. Read Deuteronomy 7:7 News Flash!! All the writers of the Bible with maybe Luke as an exception were all Jewish The Bible is a Jewish book written initially for Jews in the land of the Jews Isra'el.
You need to take your heresy and antisemitism down the road and sell it.
Shalom

Salvation from sin has absolutely nothing to do with ethnicity.

 

[e v e]

the physical seed has to do with eden physicality, not this current animal flesh
we are all in which is not made by God... and which is Sin.

The point is that His souls be restored to their original body made by God.

The covenant of Him in the OT is NOT stopped or switched.

What is his covenant ?

His covenant is to return us to Eden paradise.
And Christ Came to make that possible for us to return...
as His father asks.

 

[David Koberstein]

Again, a jew will be saved like an African or China man or an Italian if they are one of Gods elect. Its you promoting ethnic superiority like a klansman

There is no it's The Jews are God's chosen people. I'm really tired of your heresy and antisemitism rectoric. You will be on ignore.
Go and enjoy a ham sandwich .
Shalom

 

[e v e]

Salvation from sin has absolutely nothing to do with ethnicity.

true.. .Weirdly. since salvation from SIN is being saved From this body..
which itself IS Sin.

Salvation is when He returns and gathers His ones on the clouds
and restores us to Eden paradise.

 

[brightfame52]

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ethnic jews for the most part hate True Christianity and the people of God. Jesus said He was delivered to death mostly by the jews Jn 18:36

Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

 

[e v e]

Gentiles now under the New Covenant dispensation have been included into, grafted into the commonwealth of Israel Eph 2:10-12

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

The commonwealth of Israel is also the Olive Tree here Rom 11:17-24



But notice in the Eph 2 context, those Gentiles grafted into the olive Tree,the commonwealth of Israel are the New Creatures of Eph 2:10

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

The reason it seems christ speaks mysteries is corruption of the text. We are not a workmanship. There are no gentiles, only Hebrew souls and serpent souls, Circumcision is not what you would think, there is no commonwealth concept in His Words. Most of acts is corrupt, doctored.

The entire text quoted is mistranslated and corrupt.

Also, the olive trees are the male and Female originals in Eden paradise, which are His Image..

And the olive trees are the two witnesses His male and female souls restored in their body made by God who will witness with christ during trib to most of christianity who were left behind for it is lawlessness

 

[e v e]

Everything God really said is in prophets.

The NT did not replace the OT and neither does it offer any different covenant.

 

[e v e]

but now is my kingdom not from hence.

His kingdom, Eden earth is not on this earth. Eden is our promised land.
Not one bit of this world=physical earth belongs to God. Only His souls
who are imprisoned here belong to Him. Nothing of this flesh world will
enter paradise.


you are quoting from the KJV, a sorcery text.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Please explain. I know there are Messianic Jews and non believing Jews.

Correct. "Israel" has always been a mixture of various peoples. There are promises to the faithful "Jew" that were never given to national Israel.

There were a "mixed multitude" that came out of Egypt. Many of them fell in the wilderness but not all.

 

[DavidTree]

Friend you been deceived, national israel has been shelved, they like any other nation now. jews now are being saved in the times of the Gentiles as per any other ethnicity that belongs to Christ and the election of Grace.

jews now are being saved in the times of the Gentiles as per any other ethnicity that belongs to Christ and the election of Grace.

100% TRUTH

national israel has been shelved,

Temporarily because of UNBELIEF

they like any other nation now

Yes and No

Yes - they cannot save themselves = just like any other nation

No, they are NOT shelved - God has a PLAN to Redeem them, as a people/nation, and GRAFT them back into the TREE of LIFE

 

[praise_yeshua]

God has not abandoned Israel; they have not fallen beyond recovery, indicating that His covenant with them remains intact.

Replacement theology believes that the church, through Jesus Christ, has replaced Israel when it comes God’s purpose, plan and promises. But followers of this theory disregard much of what the Bible says about standing with Israel.

That is a characterization this is not valid for many people we believe that only the faithful of Israel have Eternal promises. There has always been a requirement that the true seed of Abraham practice faith.

There is no hope for those among Israel that deny God.