Israel is the Elect of God

[Rockerduck]

Really? Yeshua was a Jew and rabbi, that attended the Temple and partcipated in the activities there. Israel will never be destroyed in case you haven't figured that out by now. They are Adonai's chosen people. Why would he see them destroyed? More antisemitism from you. You real close for me putting you on ignore. I value my time and don't want to wasted on someone that is antisemitic or into replacement theology. That's a fancy name for antisemitism

I'm more Jewish than you bud. Asthenia straight from Israel, part of the 12 tribes.

 

[praise_yeshua]

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Brother, Christ is the root of that tree. He belongs above/below Abraham.

Added....

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

A reference to Christ before David and after....... The Incarnation of our Lord. Master. God.

 

[praise_yeshua]

I'm more Jewish than you bud. Asthenia straight from Israel, part of the 12 tribes.

I'm curious just how you confirm this?

 

[DavidTree]

God has not abandoned Israel; they have not fallen beyond recovery, indicating that His covenant with them remains intact.

Replacement theology believes that the church, through Jesus Christ, has replaced Israel when it comes God’s purpose, plan and promises. But followers of this theory disregard much of what the Bible says about standing with Israel.

BOTH are TRUTH

the earthbound nation was replaced with a Eternal Nation - the ISRAEL of GOD = Jew & Gentile in MESSIAH

the earthbound nation will be RESTORED when they are GRAFTED back into the Eternal Nation = the ISRAEL of GOD

This is CRYSTAL CLEAR in the Gospel, the Apostles writings and Revelation and the OT prophets

 

[Rockerduck]

I'm curious just how you confirm this?

Family Tree, dna, Jesus.

 

[brightfame52]

100% TRUTH


Temporarily because of UNBELIEF


Yes and No

Yes - they cannot save themselves = just like any other nation

No, they are NOT shelved - God has a PLAN to Redeem them, as a people/nation, and GRAFT them back into the TREE of LIFE

Yes shelved, the nation itself no longer has the national covenant relationship, thats been destroyed.

 

[Rockerduck]

When any person dies, anyone and everyone will stand before God in Judgement. This super giant big screen TV so big everyone can see it. It will show everything you have done in this life and everybody will see it. Nothing will be hidden. If you are a born again from above, child of God, you won't be there, it's a clean slate, nothing, nada. God does not care who you are or where, He already knows. The only thing that matters is if you belong to Jesus or not.

 

[DavidTree]

Yes shelved, the nation itself no longer has the national covenant relationship, thats been destroyed.

Matthew 4:4 - "Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God"

Have you embraced this Commandment with your whole heart , mind, soul and strength" ???

 

[brightfame52]

Matthew 4:4 - "Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God"

Have you embraced this Commandment with your whole heart , mind, soul and strength" ???

Lol, what in the world you talking about

 

[David Koberstein]

I'm more Jewish than you bud. Asthenia straight from Israel, part of the 12 tribes.

Yea and I'm the next pope!

 

[David Koberstein]

Brother, Christ is the root of that tree. He belongs above/below Abraham.

Added....

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

A reference to Christ before David and after....... The Incarnation of our Lord. Master. God.

You talking about the spiritual, which I agree.
But my diagram of the Olive Tree is the physical which includes the Jewish patriarchy and the generations of believers that followed courtesy of David H Stern.
Shalom

 

[David Koberstein]

Brother, Christ is the root of that tree. He belongs above/below Abraham.

Added....

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

A reference to Christ before David and after....... The Incarnation of our Lord. Master. God.

 

[David Koberstein]

Family Tree, dna, Jesus.

There probably a few branches

I'm more Jewish than you bud. Asthenia straight from Israel, part of the 12 tribes.

I doubt it. There are probably a few branches missing from your tree.

 

[David Koberstein]

The Holy Spirit told me everyone is the same who are saved, in Heaven. On this earth, you either belong to God, or the god of this world.

That was the Abrahamic covenant. The Grafted in Gentiles carried the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the world. That was the blessing

Galatians 3:16 - God gave the promises to Abraham and his child(seed); And notice that the Scripture doesn’t say “to his children(seeds),” as if it meant many descendants. Rather, it says “to his child”—and

 

[David Koberstein]

Family Tree, dna, Jesus.

There probably a few branches missing.

The Holy Spirit told me everyone is the same who are saved, in Heaven. On this earth, you either belong to God, or the god of this world.

That was the Abrahamic covenant. The Grafted in Gentiles carried the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the world. That was the blessing

Galatians 3:16 - God gave the promises to Abraham and his child(seed); And notice that the Scripture doesn’t say “to his children(seeds),” as if it meant many descendants. Rather, it says “to his child”—and that, of course, means Christ.

 

[Complete]

In this chapter, Sha'ul gives a clear example of typically Jewish use of Scripture using midrashic methods. The seed of Avraham in the plain meaning is plural (as in Gen 15:5, "Count the stars----if you can count them!

Subject Heading:- 'Israel are the elect of God'

Hi @David Koberstein

'Neither, because they are the seed (G4690) of Abraham,
are they all children:
but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.'
(Rom.9:7)

'I say then, Hath God cast away His people?
God forbid. For I also am an Israelite,
of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.'
(Rom.11:1)

'Are they Hebrews? so am I.
Are they Israelites? so am I.
Are they the seed of Abraham?
so am I.'
(2 Cor.11:22)

'For verily He took not on Him the nature of angels;
but He took on Him the seed of Abraham.'
(Heb.2:16)

'And I will pour upon the house of David,
and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem,
the spirit of grace and of supplications:
and they shall look upon Me Whom they have pierced,
and they shall mourn for Him,
as one mourneth for His only son,
and shall be in bitterness for Him,
as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.'
(Zec. 12:10)

Praise God!

 

[Rockerduck]

There probably a few branches

I doubt it. There are probably a few branches missing from your tree.

Me, Jesus, God, What branch is missing.

 

[Rockerduck]

There probably a few branches

I doubt it. There are probably a few branches missing from your tree.

You don't know what an Ashkenazi is do you.

 

[e v e]

oh plenty of hope since He
is not the esau monster who doctored the kjv

anyway when most say God
they are not even vaguely referring to Him
and never personally met Him

their 'life' is a mess

whatever that matrix horror show life
may be

 

[jeremiah1five]

Israel National served three purposes, which all three have been fulfilled since the Death of Christ,

First, they were chosen to bring forth the Messiah; secondly, they were a figure or a type of the worldwide church which was to come; and thirdly, their obedience and disobedience was to serve as an example to the church today.

Now when we switch to the New Testament, we plainly see that God no longer dwells upon the subject of the physical seed but upon the spiritual seed. The physical seed was important up to the point of the cross. Since Christ died, the physical seed was no longer needed as a type owing to the fact the church would soon be born on a universal scale.https://www.scionofzion.com/israelofgod.htm

Natural Olive tree Israel became spiritual Olive tree Israel with the advent of the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL during the Feast of Harvest circa 30 AD.
The Lord's covenants endure even to today and is everlasting. Everything in both testaments have to do with Israel as a people and as a nation. The Old Testament also known as the Hebrew Scripture records God's relationship with certain people that in the process of time became a nation. Abraham and his seed looked forward towards the advent of the Promised One who would deliver the children of Israel from their enemies and install an earthly kingdom that would endure forever.