Israel is the Elect of God

There are NO GENTILES in any of the three Hebrew covenants. NONE.

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Gal. 4:4–5.

Gentiles were NEVER under the Law. And they are NOT in any Hebrew Covenant today. You're believing a Gentile lie. It's called Inheritance theft, and it took place after Rome destroyed and scattered Israel.
I don't see any Gentiles in the Scripture record before or during Christ claiming to be in the Abrahamic or Mosaic Covenant. Why is that? It only takes place AFTER Israel as a nation is gone.
Why is that?
Again the world in Jn 1:29

29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

And the Israel that shall be saved are the same Rom 11:26-27


26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Thats the Mystery
 
I guess you reject Galatians 4:4-5.
That's a fake Christian that does that.
No its you reject:

Gentile believers in Christ are Israel my Glory Col 1:27

To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
 
And that would also include through extended family lineage Rebekah, Rachael, and Leah.
The inheritance went through the father which applies to Boaz and Ruthie.
Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise (Gal. 3:29.)
You made an inaccurate statement.

Was Ishmael Abrahams biological seed according to Gen 21:13

And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed. Yes or No
 
Greeting Jeremiah, you and I have debated before on this subject on another forum, so let us do it one more time. I will not go back and forth on this subject, because I'm going to make it very clear I trust in this one post.
No one would disagree with this, yet, Paul makes it very clear that being the biologically seed of Abraham means nothing.
Saul has said nothing of the sort as a standalone. Just as he counted everything "dung" doesn't mean literally everything was "dung" to him but only in making a comparison and for purposes of priority. By continuing to be an observant Jew after meeting Christ and becoming born-again he did not mean the Mosaic commands upon him were "dung."
How plain is that? Too plain to debate over~you are fighting against the word of God and whoever does so, will be found lairs, be whoever he may be.
Besides, Abraham had other sons beside Isaac, and none of them were the children of God's promises~only God's holy oath and his promises to the seed of Jesus Christ secures one as the TRUE ISRAEL OF GOD~the Royal seed of Heaven.
God's purposes were to maintain the purity of the Hebrew race. However, just as knowing Adam and the woman would sin because they were sinners, so too, was it God's purpose to command Hebrew people marry Hebrew spouses and still He provides contingencies for when these unions would occur - even through slavery, concubinage, rape, etc.
Consider: The True Israel of God

There are several Israel's we must identify and consider as we search for the true Israel of God. National/physical Israel is clearly the first Israel. These are the natural, biological, flesh descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob making a physical nation (Romans 9:1-5).
Paul divides national Israel by identifying an elect remnant within it (Romans 9:6-8,27). Paul further divides elect Israel by identifying a blinded portion of it (Rom 11:25-29).
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. Rom. 9:5–8.

27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: Rom. 9:27.

Saul doesn't divide anything. There was already distinction existing between the one that was Israel (Isaac) and the one not of Israel (Ishmael), and special care should be made in understanding what Saul is saying because there was no Israel (Jacob) when Abe and Sarah dealt with the Isaac and Ishmael issue.

What do you think of any unbeliever or born-again Christian taking an Old Testament passage and changing a word to make the OT passage say something else? Didn't C.T. Russell and Joseph Smith do this alteration? Do you think anyone that changes the OT to make it say something else in the NT is right? Can we do it?
Identifying the true Israel of God is a mystery revealed by God to Paul (Eph 2:11-22; 3:1-12).
Without knowing Jesus Christ’s bloody sacrifice, Gentiles were without hope (2:11-13).
The ordinances were for Israel, but Jesus Christ created one body by death (2:14-17). There is now one kingdom of God for Jews and Gentiles through the Spirit (2:18-22). There is one large body of all the elect (21).
First you say "Gentiles are without hope" which is true, then you contradict yourself in the next comment by joining them in covenant with God, which is error. There are no non-Hebrew Gentiles in any of the three Hebrew covenants. NONE. Scripture cannot be broken. There are no non-Hebrew Gentiles in ANY of the three Hebrew covenants.
Uniting elect Jews and Gentiles in one body as fellowheirs had indeed been a mystery (3:1-12), as this was a preposterous idea to Jews still dreaming of national supremacy~fueled by many Evangelicals, started mainly with the help of the Scofield reference bible~a hundred and twenty plus years ago.

The word of God makes it very clear: The kingdom of God, the nation, the church, the body, the house, the temple, and the family of God are now elect Jews and Gentiles in one spiritual body under Christ Jesus.
Scripture cannot be broken. If there were no non-Hebrew Gentiles in ANY of the three Hebrew covenants when they were made, then there are no non-Hebrew Gentiles in ANY of the three Hebrew covenants centuries later. Scripture cannot be broken.
We are united with the Old Testament saints as fellowcitizens in a new kingdom-nation. The true Israel continues as a spiritual nation of elect Jews and Gentiles saved by Christ.
Shall we not earnestly contend: what God hath joined together let not man put asunder?
Jesus spoke of this mystery Himself when describing one fold and Shepherd (John 10:16).
He was referring to the "other flock" being the Samaritans (half-Jew/half-Gentile.)
Jesus foretold He would take His kingdom from Jews and give it to Gentiles (Matt 21:33-46). The parable of the householder plainly describes the Jews’ rebellion against the Lord. The Pharisees accurately ended the parable by stating destruction and new husbandmen. And they accurately applied it to themselves, but rather than submit they chose anger. The kingdom of God was taken from the Natural Jewish nation and given to the Gentiles.
How say some that the kingdom is the Jews? Let them show us another transfer! Even Caiaphas the high priest ignorantly prophesied of a combined nation (John 11:47-52).
Jews tried to make Jesus King, but He rejected their fleshly idea (Jn 6:15; 18:36; Lu 17:20-21).
Jesus and Paul used Israel carefully (John 1:47; Gal 6:16). But see fleshly Israel (I Cor 10:18).
The true Jew was and is a spiritual child of God without regard to race (Rom 2:28-29; 9:24-26).
These two verses could not be plainer. Physical genealogy is worthless and deceptive.
Jesus boldly explained this problem to the Jews themselves (John 8:37,39,41,44). John the Baptist had already warned against false confidence in Abraham (Matt 3:9). Paul further identifies the true circumcision as spiritual as opposed to flesh (Phil 3:3). Outside of Jesus Christ, fleshly Jews are hated and lying Satanists (Revelation 2:9; 3:9). The Lord Jesus will bring them to worship Gentiles as the beloved of God (Rev 3:9).
Rebuilding of the tabernacle of David was elect Jews and Gentile conversions (Amos 9:11-12; Acts 15:13-18).
Scofield claims this is the most important dispensational passage in the New Testament. The context, application, and immediate conclusion of the council make this so simple. James defined the fulfillment of rebuilding David’s tabernacle as Gentile conversions.
The kingdom and church of Jesus Christ is the promised son of Abram by Sarah (Gal 4:21-31). Paul enlightens us here with an allegory from Abraham’s two sons – Ishmael and Isaac. The fleshly union of Abraham and Hagar resulted in a son, but not the son of promise.

The union of Abraham and Sarah also resulted in a son, but it was by spiritual promise. Believers are the accepted (though persecuted) heirs of promise by the freewoman.
Believe me, Isaac was not a spiritual son but real flesh and blood.
And those fleshly descendants of Abraham were rejected from any inheritance at all. The bondage of Hagar represents fleshly Israel; and Sarah’s heir represents believers. Jerusalem on earth is in bondage and has been rejected; our Jerusalem above is free. And we should not be at all surprised at persecution from them born after the flesh.
I guess that would make God a liar and His Promises a lie.
But thank God He is a Promise Keeper and will keep ALL His Promises made to Abraham and the children/House of Israel.
The church of Jesus Christ is the spiritual fulfillment of everything of Israel (Heb 12:18-29). We have come to Mt. Zion, a city named Jerusalem, and the general assembly of Israel. All aspects of the heavenly kingdom gloriously come together in Jesus Christ (22-24). We’ve received this final kingdom of God where He is worshipped acceptably forever.
Peter also described this spiritual new nation of Israel as a complete replacement (I Pet 2:4-10).
Believers in Christ are a spiritual house and holy priesthood with spiritual sacrifices.
Observe that Israel after the flesh was appointed to their disobedience and stumbling.
Believers ~ even Gentiles – are a royal priesthood, a holy nation, and the people of God.
The hope of Israel (Acts 28:20) is not a future fleshly nation but the resurrection (23:6; 26:6-8).
Gentile believers are the true Seed of Abraham and inherit the promises (Gal 3:7,16-18,26-29). The promises made to Abraham were not to his descendants but to his Seed – Christ. The promises to Abraham were spiritual in nature and realized by us in Christ Jesus. Isn’t it amazing how modern versions corrupt “seed” to “descendants” in Genesis? Shall we ascribe it to ignorance, stupidity, or deception they would deny themselves? In Christ Jesus there is no distinction of Jew and Greek. Why are you howling for one? If there is no Jewish distinction in Christ, then why create one for a future millenium? Even the land is ours, for the land is the heavenly country and city built by God.

Enough said.
Typical Gentile inheritance theft of everything God gave to Israel.
Why weren't there Gentiles in Scripture declaring they were in the covenants before Christ and during His Ministry on earth? Why wait until after the destruction of the Jewish Temple and the scattering of the Jews everywhere by the Romans in 70 AD? Why is that?

And why does Scripture record three thousand Jews becoming born-again and forming the basis of the Jewish Church Jesus Promised to build? And why do you ignore Acts 2:47 stating Christ added daily to His Church daily Jews who should be saved? Even after Jews became born again, they continued to be obedient to the Law of Moses - even Saul.

You are supporting non-Gentile theft of Israel's covenants, Promises, and their inheritance.

Thou shalt not steal.
 
Saul has said nothing of the sort as a standalone. Just as he counted everything "dung" doesn't mean literally everything was "dung" to him but only in making a comparison and for purposes of priority. By continuing to be an observant Jew after meeting Christ and becoming born-again he did not mean the Mosaic commands upon him were "dung."

God's purposes were to maintain the purity of the Hebrew race. However, just as knowing Adam and the woman would sin because they were sinners, so too, was it God's purpose to command Hebrew people marry Hebrew spouses and still He provides contingencies for when these unions would occur - even through slavery, concubinage, rape, etc.

6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. Rom. 9:5–8.

27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: Rom. 9:27.

Saul doesn't divide anything. There was already distinction existing between the one that was Israel (Isaac) and the one not of Israel (Ishmael), and special care should be made in understanding what Saul is saying because there was no Israel (Jacob) when Abe and Sarah dealt with the Isaac and Ishmael issue.

What do you think of any unbeliever or born-again Christian taking an Old Testament passage and changing a word to make the OT passage say something else? Didn't C.T. Russell and Joseph Smith do this alteration? Do you think anyone that changes the OT to make it say something else in the NT is right? Can we do it?

First you say "Gentiles are without hope" which is true, then you contradict yourself in the next comment by joining them in covenant with God, which is error. There are no non-Hebrew Gentiles in any of the three Hebrew covenants. NONE. Scripture cannot be broken. There are no non-Hebrew Gentiles in ANY of the three Hebrew covenants.

Scripture cannot be broken. If there were no non-Hebrew Gentiles in ANY of the three Hebrew covenants when they were made, then there are no non-Hebrew Gentiles in ANY of the three Hebrew covenants centuries later. Scripture cannot be broken.

He was referring to the "other flock" being the Samaritans (half-Jew/half-Gentile.)

Believe me, Isaac was not a spiritual son but real flesh and blood.

I guess that would make God a liar and His Promises a lie.
But thank God He is a Promise Keeper and will keep ALL His Promises made to Abraham and the children/House of Israel.

Typical Gentile inheritance theft of everything God gave to Israel.
Why weren't there Gentiles in Scripture declaring they were in the covenants before Christ and during His Ministry on earth? Why wait until after the destruction of the Jewish Temple and the scattering of the Jews everywhere by the Romans in 70 AD? Why is that?

And why does Scripture record three thousand Jews becoming born-again and forming the basis of the Jewish Church Jesus Promised to build? And why do you ignore Acts 2:47 stating Christ added daily to His Church daily Jews who should be saved? Even after Jews became born again, they continued to be obedient to the Law of Moses - even Saul.

You are supporting non-Gentile theft of Israel's covenants, Promises, and their inheritance.

Thou shalt not steal.
You note: thou shalt not steal? Yet, with all this gibberish, you steal from the glory of the Father and Son by denying the redemptive work of God for the whole world as if God were just redeeming a bloodthirsty tribe that had been stubborn all along (See Deut 32 and Isaiah 5). God still saved some of Israel but it was only enough to make Paul cry out to God to understand God's faithfulness to Israel despite it failing to be come to Christ en masse. Indeed, their failure to come in great numbers was a sign they, as a nation, were no closer to God than when Israel was taken captive by Assyria. You ahve a few things right, though. The gentiles do not take on the Mosaic covenant since that was coming to an end. But they do benefit from the Abrahamic covenant by being in Christ per Gen 22:18. Note that this wording is different from earlier statement in that it says "In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice.” That Seed is Christ and is in whom the non-Hebrew gentiles are blessed. Imagine God surprising proud Israel (who has fallen because of pride) by including gentiles. But some prideful hearts reject that possibility and thus reject God as well.
 
You note: thou shalt not steal? Yet, with all this gibberish, you steal from the glory of the Father and Son by denying the redemptive work of God for the whole world as if God were just redeeming a bloodthirsty tribe that had been stubborn all along (See Deut 32 and Isaiah 5).
Under the Law the animal sacrifices were made yearly to atone for the sins of the children of Israel
Christ did not come to change the Law but to fulfill and as the Lamb of God He fulfilled perfectly all the precepts contained in the Law towards the animal sacrifices and as the Lamb of God was sacrificed under the Law and in accordance with the Law to atone eternally for the sins of the children of Israel. Scripture cannot be broken.

God still saved some of Israel but it was only enough to make Paul cry out to God to understand God's faithfulness to Israel despite it failing to be come to Christ en masse. Indeed, their failure to come in great numbers was a sign they, as a nation, were no closer to God than when Israel was taken captive by Assyria. You ahve a few things right, though. The gentiles do not take on the Mosaic covenant since that was coming to an end. But they do benefit from the Abrahamic covenant by being in Christ per Gen 22:18. Note that this wording is different from earlier statement in that it says "In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice.” That Seed is Christ and is in whom the non-Hebrew gentiles are blessed. Imagine God surprising proud Israel (who has fallen because of pride) by including gentiles. But some prideful hearts reject that possibility and thus reject God as well.
Why the hypocrisy? If the New Covenant ended the Mosaic Covenant, why don't you teach the Mosaic Covenant ending the Abrahamic Covenant? That's because you need it as basis to steal the Hebrew covenant from Abraham and his seed and apply it to non-Hebrew Gentiles because of your misinterpretation of Saul's words in Romans and Galatians. But if you are going to say the Mosaic Covenant did not end the Abrahamic Covenant then you have to also say the New Covenant did not end the Mosaic Covenant. And it didn't. ALL the three Hebrew Covenants are still in effect.
How many Gentiles were represented at the Passover meal (last supper?)
How many Gentiles were among the three thousand Jews from both kingdoms that were born again on the day of the Feast of Harvest? Why is the Revelation prophecy by John contain Jewish terms, history, culture, religion, Temple, covenants, and Hebrew people in it? Where are the non-Hebrew Gentiles? I KNOW. You can find them ALL who survived Israel's Messiah the Second Time right here:

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations (GENTILES) which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Rev. 20:7–10.

In order to remove yourself from true, biblical Christianity of the bible you HAVE TO destroy the Law of Moses; to claim it's "abolished" or "obsolete" otherwise you are bound to it and must follow its precepts and commands. But then this places Israel back on its throne as the ONLY viable and worthy religion on the face of the earth. When Jews were born-again - even Saul and the rest of the apostles - they continued obedience to Law of Moses. Why was that? Because they all knew that under the Law the animal sacrifice for the sins of the children of Israel and God's sacrifice in Christ is also for the sins of the children of Israel and this would leave non-Hebrew Gentiles without a Lord and Savior.

None are so blind as those who choose NOT to see!
 
Under the Law the animal sacrifices were made yearly to atone for the sins of the children of Israel
Christ did not come to change the Law but to fulfill and as the Lamb of God He fulfilled perfectly all the precepts contained in the Law towards the animal sacrifices and as the Lamb of God was sacrificed under the Law and in accordance with the Law to atone eternally for the sins of the children of Israel. Scripture cannot be broken.


Why the hypocrisy? If the New Covenant ended the Mosaic Covenant, why don't you teach the Mosaic Covenant ending the Abrahamic Covenant? That's because you need it as basis to steal the Hebrew covenant from Abraham and his seed and apply it to non-Hebrew Gentiles because of your misinterpretation of Saul's words in Romans and Galatians. But if you are going to say the Mosaic Covenant did not end the Abrahamic Covenant then you have to also say the New Covenant did not end the Mosaic Covenant. And it didn't. ALL the three Hebrew Covenants are still in effect.
How many Gentiles were represented at the Passover meal (last supper?)
How many Gentiles were among the three thousand Jews from both kingdoms that were born again on the day of the Feast of Harvest? Why is the Revelation prophecy by John contain Jewish terms, history, culture, religion, Temple, covenants, and Hebrew people in it? Where are the non-Hebrew Gentiles? I KNOW. You can find them ALL who survived Israel's Messiah the Second Time right here:

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations (GENTILES) which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Rev. 20:7–10.

In order to remove yourself from true, biblical Christianity of the bible you HAVE TO destroy the Law of Moses; to claim it's "abolished" or "obsolete" otherwise you are bound to it and must follow its precepts and commands. But then this places Israel back on its throne as the ONLY viable and worthy religion on the face of the earth. When Jews were born-again - even Saul and the rest of the apostles - they continued obedience to Law of Moses. Why was that? Because they all knew that under the Law the animal sacrifice for the sins of the children of Israel and God's sacrifice in Christ is also for the sins of the children of Israel and this would leave non-Hebrew Gentiles without a Lord and Savior.

None are so blind as those who choose NOT to see!
stop giving stupid answers. you should read the scriptures and check some commentaries. your vision continues to mislead you
 
And that would also include through extended family lineage Rebekah, Rachael, and Leah.
The inheritance went through the father which applies to Boaz and Ruthie.
Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise (Gal. 3:29.)
for you to have any relevance around here, you would have to show how you use scripture in its common understanding and also show how your message is of any interest or importance to Christians. So far are you seem to say is ME ME ME and MINE MINE MINE. That is not healthy message to hold on to.
 
Saul has said nothing of the sort as a standalone. Just as he counted everything "dung" doesn't mean literally everything was "dung" to him but only in making a comparison and for purposes of priority. By continuing to be an observant Jew after meeting Christ and becoming born-again he did not mean the Mosaic commands upon him were "dung."
I'm reading this and saying, what this is fruit cake talking about? Your words reminds me of the debate last week between President Biden and President Trump, when President Biden begin to talk about a subject that wasn't even asked him and stumbled through what he was trying to say. He did not know what he was talking about and neither did anyone else, it was a total mess, and so is your first respond to me! He was out of his league debating President Trump...he truly embarrassed himself~I think you are out of your league, you need to step down!

Paul forsook Judaism totally in the false rellgion of the Jews where he prospered above many his equal (Galatians 1:15; etc.) ~ so I have no clue what you are attempting to prove by saying~"By continuing to be an observant Jew after meeting Christ and becoming born-again he did not mean the Mosaic commands upon him were "dung." And, btw, neither do you.
God's purposes were to maintain the purity of the Hebrew race. However, just as knowing Adam and the woman would sin because they were sinners, so too, was it God's purpose to command Hebrew people marry Hebrew spouses and still He provides contingencies for when these unions would occur - even through slavery, concubinage, rape, etc.
You do know that there are Gentiles in the genealogy of Jesus Christ, or have you just conveniently forgotten? Ever heard of a woman named Ruth? Well, now. let me introduce her to you. She was the great-grandmother of king David through whom Christ came! Ruth was She was a Moabite woman who married an Israelite, Mahlon. There more, but enough to show your ignorance on this point.

God does not consider blood as a choice of who are his children~for all came from one man's blood and all are sinners on equal grounds as such before God.... there's nothing special about being a Jew, except the burden of crucifying the Lord of glory, the heavy burden they are still carrying until this day and will until Jesus return, with a few exceptions of those who are the children of God promises only. When we are commanded to pray for the peace of Jerusalem, it is speaking of the New Jerusalem, the royal seed of Jesus Christ~ the elect of God made of both Jews and Gentiles, mostly Gentiles in our days, mostly Jews before Christ came.

Saul doesn't divide anything. There was already distinction existing between the one that was Israel (Isaac) and the one not of Israel (Ishmael), and special care should be made in understanding what Saul is saying because there was no Israel (Jacob) when Abe and Sarah dealt with the Isaac and Ishmael issue.

What do you think of any unbeliever or born-again Christian taking an Old Testament passage and changing a word to make the OT passage say something else? Didn't C.T. Russell and Joseph Smith do this alteration? Do you think anyone that changes the OT to make it say something else in the NT is right? Can we do it?
The word of God call him Paul, and so shall I, even though his Hebrew name was Saul, yet known among us elect Gentiles as Paul~the name PAul used among the Gentiles who were the True Israel of God, where God was vising post Christ's death, which visitation is almost over~and then the end will come. Time will be no more.

Concerning dividing the word Israel~it is very clear that the Holy Ghost does and so shall we. First, God makes this distinction clear in Romans 2:28,29.
A. For he is not a Jew.

The Jews were confident that their external lineage and/or circumcision would save them. Jesus condemned merely nominal Jews as devil worshippers (John 8:44; Rev 2:9; 3:9). True Jewishness in the sight of God had always been an internal matter of the heart, whether Jew or Gentile (Lev 26:40-42; Deut 10:12-16; Jer 4:4; John 8:39; Gal 3:9). The topic of this chapter is condemnation, not salvation or regeneration; and Paul’s argument is simply to destroy all Jewish confidence in being a Jews in the flesh, and following Moses.(2:25-29).

B. Which is one outwardly.

1.The mere outward trappings of a Jew, involving the lineage, citizenship, and worship, are not the proper identifying marks of a true Jew, or elect child of God, in the sight of God.

C. Neither is that circumcision.

1.The minor surgery of removing the foreskin is not the circumcision that counts with God.

2.The only circumcision God valued was internal circumcision of the heart (De 10:12-16).

D. Which is outward in the flesh.

External religion, or doing things outwardly with your body, is not what counts with God. Though God had commanded and required outward circumcision, He had also required many other ceremonies and sacrifices that He considered inferior to a broken heart and obedient life (Ps 50:7-15,23; 51:16-17; Isaiah 1:10-20; 58:1-14; Micah 6:6-8). The Jews were so deceived by their literal, legalistic, and letter approach to the law that they missed the spiritual, significant, and saving aspect of godly character and conduct.

v29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.​


A. But he is a Jew.

The true Jew, in this sense, was always an elect, regenerate, and faithful child of God, Jews and Gentiles, as Abel, Enoch, Noah, Melchisedec, Rahab, Ruth, Cornelius, etc. Since Jews loved being Jews, Paul defined a true Jew according to God’s opinion.

B. Which is one inwardly.

There is an inward love of God and righteousness totally different than outward religion. The only Jews God ever truly approved of were those with inner love of Him (Deut 6:5).

C. And circumcision is that of the heart.

The intent and priority of inward religion and circumcision was clearly taught in the O.T. to the Jews, but most had missed it (Deut 6:5; 10:12-16; I Sam 15:22-23; Psalm 51:16-17; Isaiah 1:11-20; Jeremiah 4:4; Hosea 6:6; Micah 6:6-8; etc.). Stephen addressed this very point to the law-adoring Jews that stoned him (Acts 7:51-53).

D. In the spirit.

Jesus had earlier identified the true worshippers of God as those who worship internally by involving their spirits as opposed to strictly literal or external worship (John 4:20-24).

E. And not in the letter.
Jesus knew the spirit of Moses’ law trumped the letter (Matthew 12:1-8; Mark 2:23-28). Enough said on this point.

F. Whose praise is not of men of of God~Being a Jew inwardly gives all praise to God, who alone creates a new man within his elect that allows them to worship God in the spirit and in truth, and not after the commandments of men.

Secondly, God even divides Israel's elect among themselves as we mentioned above when we said:
Paul further divides elect Israel by identifying a blinded portion of it (Rom 11:25-29).
In Paul's days, there where elect Jews, that had been converted to the truth (Paul, thousands of others) and some elect Jews yet fighting the truth. This is seen clearly from Romans 10:1-Romans 11:29. Just as there are today, many different sects in which are some of God's people, yet unconverted to the truth as it is in Jesus Christ, partially converted, but not to the degree they could be, if they would let go of the works of the flesh in relation to the truth that Salvation is of Lord, not of man in in sense whatsoever.

Coming back and to finish keep from this being too long to be profitable to our readers.
 
stop giving stupid answers. you should read the scriptures and check some commentaries. your vision continues to mislead you
That's your problem. You rely on other people's bible studies and don't study Scripture under the anointing as commanded by God and His Christ.
Try doing some original thinking about what Scripture says and refrain from posting other people's bible studies.

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.
25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Jn 14:23–26.

So, now I get to the crux of your problem. You don't rely on the Holy Spirit. You prefer to regurgitate other people's bible studies and in this I realize your error.
 
for you to have any relevance around here, you would have to show how you use scripture in its common understanding and also show how your message is of any interest or importance to Christians. So far are you seem to say is ME ME ME and MINE MINE MINE. That is not healthy message to hold on to.
Obviously, you have a comprehension deficiency. I don't do I, me, mine.
You're the one who regurgitates other people's bible studies and come up with error. Try doing some original thinking under the anointing and maybe, just maybe you'll come to the knowledge of the truth.
 
First you say "Gentiles are without hope" which is true, then you contradict yourself in the next comment by joining them in covenant with God, which is error. There are no non-Hebrew Gentiles in any of the three Hebrew covenants. NONE. Scripture cannot be broken. There are no non-Hebrew Gentiles in ANY of the three Hebrew covenants.
I'll slow down this time around seeing a few errors of in my writing the post early this morning. But, I do not spend a lot of time trying to impress others with making a perfect post as far as showing off any writings skills, for I do not consider myself of having that, but I'm convinced that God has given to me his truth which I will defend when opportunity is given to me to do so. God forbid that I sit idling by and hide my one or two talents, and do nothing.

First you say "Gentiles are without hope"~As a nation they were, but only as a nation considered. God had some elect Gentiles that fear him throughout the OT. The same is true in the NT, as a nation the Jews are now without hope, yet not all, for God has some elect Jews part of the NT churches, but not many, it is a rarity to find them, but they are there, known only to God.

God is visiting the Gentiles just as I said above. He is not visiting the natural profess children of Abraham, he left them under his judgment around two thousand years ago as a nation. The literal city of Jerusalem is forever forsaken as a place where God is, or will ever be~those that worship him must worship him in spirit and truth all over this world. Those in Jerusalem in the middle east are still in boandage, and know it not~they think (because of men like you) they are special because of being blood children (if they are) of Abraham. The apple of God's eyes are those who are of the seed of Jesus Christ, not Abraham's natural seed. More on this point later....

then you contradict yourself in the next comment by joining them in covenant with God, which is error. There are no non-Hebrew Gentiles in any of the three Hebrew covenants. NONE. Scripture cannot be broken. There are no non-Hebrew Gentiles in ANY of the three Hebrew covenants.
Name the three you want to discuss, and I will and will prove just how wrong you are.

I'm assuming you would like to start with Genesis 12:1-3? Not sure why you would start there since all of the covenants beginning with Noah are part of ONE COVENANT~the everlasting covenant made with the seed of Jesus Christ. Each time God gave a little more revelation of its truths to those would be the heirs of this everlasting covenant of grace freely given to the promised seed (Christ) and his members of his flesh, his children, whom God had given to him.

I think I will stop here and see which direction you want to go, and I will come.

You said....."There are no non-Hebrew Gentiles in any of the three Hebrew covenants. NONE." This should be interesting to discuss, I'm very sure you will be found looking for answers which you will not find.

I'll be waiting....RB
 
Abraham was a gentile :)

The short answer is that Abraham was a Gentile who was chosen by God to be the ancestor of the Jewish people.

The term Jew is a shortened form of the word Judah, which was the name of one of the tribes of Israel, the tribe of David and of Jesus (Matthew 1:1). Judah was also the name of the southern half of the kingdom of Israel when it split into two parts (1 Kings 12), because it was dominated by the large tribe of Judah. The first time the word Jew is used in the Bible is during the exile (2 Kings 25:25), and may have been a term coined by the Babylonians or Persians to refer to the people in their midst who had come from the kingdom of Judah. By New Testament times, Jew was a common term, and it has remained in usage unto this day. Obviously, Abraham was never referred to by this term.

The term Gentile is simply from the Latin word for “nation.” When the term Gentiles is used in Scripture, it means “the nations.” If a person is a Gentile, he or she is a member of one of the many nations in the world. When Jew and Gentile are juxtaposed, the contrast is between one who is a member of God’s chosen nation and one who is a member of one of the hundreds of other nations or ethnic groups not chosen for special blessing in the way that Israel was. In this context, Gentile simply means “not Jewish.”

Abraham started out as a member of one of the many nations or ethnic groups that were in existence at the time. (Of course, these are somewhat artificial distinctions, because all people came from Adam and Eve, and all people are related if the genealogy is traced back far enough. However, after Babel, people started to segregate into smaller groups and develop into distinctive ethnic groups, clans, and nations.) Abraham was living in Ur of the Chaldeans. While he was there, God called him:

“The Lord had said to Abram, ‘Go from your country, your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you. I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you’” (Genesis 12:1–3).

At that point, Abraham was called and set apart for God’s purposes. He left his native country and people behind. His descendants would become the great nation of Israel, God’s chosen people, but the line had not been narrowed down yet. Abraham had several sons: Isaac, by his wife Sarah; Ishmael, by a slave of Sarah; and other sons with another wife after Sarah died. However, it was only Isaac who was the chosen one. Isaac had two sons, Jacob and Esau, and only Jacob (whose name was later changed to Israel) was the chosen one. All of Jacob’s 12 sons were included as patriarchs in the nation of Israel and became the basis for the 12 tribes. It was at this point that the line had been finally set; however, the wives of Jacob’s sons were still from outside the family.

With the next generation of Jacob’s grandchildren, the descendants of Jacobbecame a distinct people group, and they were distinguished from the Egyptians among whom they were living as having all descended from one man named Israel. By the time of Exodus 1, they were recognized as a distinct nation.

Technically, no one was called a “Jew” before the exile; however, the people who became known as Jews were a distinct ethnic group by the time of Exodus 1. They were a distinct clan by the time of Jacob and his sons. Abraham was a Gentile, that is, a member of one of the many nations that had developed by his time. The Jews came from Abraham because he was chosen by God from among the nations to be the origin of a new nation. The Jews of Jesus’ day looked to Abraham (not Jacob/Israel) as the head of their race (see Matthew 3:9; Luke 3:8; John 8:39; Acts 13:26; Galatians 3:7). If one is thinking in these terms, it would not be wrong to think of Abraham as “the first Jew,” although that’s not technically correct.Got?

hope this helps !!!
 
Paul forsook Judaism totally in the false rellgion of the Jews where he prospered above many his equal (Galatians 1:15; etc.) ~ so I have no clue what you are attempting to prove by saying~"By continuing to be an observant Jew after meeting Christ and becoming born-again he did not mean the Mosaic commands upon him were "dung." And, btw, neither do you.
24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law. Acts 21:23–24.

Saul said he was "separated unto God" which means he had the vow of a Nazarite, purifying himself according to the Law and shaving his head all indicate his obedience to the Nazarene vow. And it clearly says he remained onedient to the Law of Moses.

Strike one on you.
You do know that there are Gentiles in the genealogy of Jesus Christ, or have you just conveniently forgotten? Ever heard of a woman named Ruth? Well, now. let me introduce her to you. She was the great-grandmother of king David through whom Christ came! Ruth was She was a Moabite woman who married an Israelite, Mahlon. There more, but enough to show your ignorance on this point.
Ruthie wasn't non-Hebrew Gentile. She was a Moabite, a descendant of Lot of whom Lot was a descendant of Haran who was a descendant of Terah Abraham's bother. In other words, Lot was Abraham's nephew. It was all in the family. She didn't marry an Israelite; she married a Hebrew. The Israelites came later through Jacob.

Strike two on you.
God does not consider blood as a choice of who are his children~for all came from one man's blood and all are sinners on equal grounds as such before God.... there's nothing special about being a Jew, except the burden of crucifying the Lord of glory, the heavy burden they are still carrying until this day and will until Jesus return, with a few exceptions of those who are the children of God promises only. When we are commanded to pray for the peace of Jerusalem, it is speaking of the New Jerusalem, the royal seed of Jesus Christ~ the elect of God made of both Jews and Gentiles, mostly Gentiles in our days, mostly Jews before Christ came.
The Abraham covenant separated Hebrews from the rest of the Adamites who were eventually called "Gentile." And what SEALED the Hebrews was circumcision of their flesh which would prefigure circumcision of the "heart" (life), so God had already made distinction between obedient sons of Seth and the rest of the Adamites who were disobedient and refused to scatter and "fill the earth." Granted, the descendants of Seth referred to by God as the sons of God in Gen. 6 unequally yoked themselves to disobedient law-rejecting Adamites and their children grew up without restriction and became "bullies" and "tyrants" in which eventually a man named Nimrod who hunted men rose to prominence. But ONLY Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD and the rest of the Adamites - including the sons of God were wiped away in the flood.

Strike three. You're out!
The word of God call him Paul, and so shall I, even though his Hebrew name was Saul, yet known among us elect Gentiles as Paul~the name PAul used among the Gentiles who were the True Israel of God, where God was vising post Christ's death, which visitation is almost over~and then the end will come. Time will be no more.
Jesus called him Saul, so, being a Christ follower so will I instead of using his Gentile rendering of his name (all Gentiles do that.)

Next batter. Strike one.
Concerning dividing the word Israel~it is very clear that the Holy Ghost does and so shall we. First, God makes this distinction clear in Romans 2:28,29.
No, God makes this distinction clear in Genesis 32:24-28.

24 And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day.
25 And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob’s thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.
26 And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me.
27 And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob.

And in keeping with the Abrahamic Promises of being a great people/nation...

28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.
Gen.32:24–28.

Strike two.
A. For he is not a Jew.
The Jews were confident that their external lineage and/or circumcision would save them. Jesus condemned merely nominal Jews as devil worshippers (John 8:44; Rev 2:9; 3:9).
That's like calling black people all still slaves.
Jesus spoke to the religious leaders that were present when Jesus said it, so let's not confuse the truth with lies. And the word "devil" is an adjective not a pronoun nor a personal pronoun and it means "one who impugns the charater of another" or simply a "liar."

Strike three.
True Jewishness in the sight of God had always been an internal matter of the heart, whether Jew or Gentile (Lev 26:40-42; Deut 10:12-16; Jer 4:4; John 8:39; Gal 3:9). The topic of this chapter is condemnation, not salvation or regeneration; and Paul’s argument is simply to destroy all Jewish confidence in being a Jews in the flesh, and following Moses.(2:25-29).
Typical Constantinian Gentile textbook answer.
God has everlasting covenant with Abraham and his seed. When Christ returns the children of Israel will finally receive their Promised Land and ALL non-Hebrew Gentiles will be cleansed from the land. The survivors of the Second Coming will reside in what the bible says the "four corners of the earth." Now, let's look and see what happenes to these non-Hebrew Gentiles:

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Rev. 20:7–10.

Complete and utter destruction. And the Hebrews lived happily ever after.

New batter. Strike one.
B. Which is one outwardly.

1.The mere outward trappings of a Jew, involving the lineage, citizenship, and worship, are not the proper identifying marks of a true Jew, or elect child of God, in the sight of God.

C. Neither is that circumcision.

1.The minor surgery of removing the foreskin is not the circumcision that counts with God.

2.The only circumcision God valued was internal circumcision of the heart (De 10:12-16).

D. Which is outward in the flesh.

External religion, or doing things outwardly with your body, is not what counts with God. Though God had commanded and required outward circumcision, He had also required many other ceremonies and sacrifices that He considered inferior to a broken heart and obedient life (Ps 50:7-15,23; 51:16-17; Isaiah 1:10-20; 58:1-14; Micah 6:6-8). The Jews were so deceived by their literal, legalistic, and letter approach to the law that they missed the spiritual, significant, and saving aspect of godly character and conduct.

v29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.​


A. But he is a Jew.

The true Jew, in this sense, was always an elect, regenerate, and faithful child of God, Jews and Gentiles, as Abel, Enoch, Noah, Melchisedec, Rahab, Ruth, Cornelius, etc. Since Jews loved being Jews, Paul defined a true Jew according to God’s opinion.

B. Which is one inwardly.

There is an inward love of God and righteousness totally different than outward religion. The only Jews God ever truly approved of were those with inner love of Him (Deut 6:5).

C. And circumcision is that of the heart.

The intent and priority of inward religion and circumcision was clearly taught in the O.T. to the Jews, but most had missed it (Deut 6:5; 10:12-16; I Sam 15:22-23; Psalm 51:16-17; Isaiah 1:11-20; Jeremiah 4:4; Hosea 6:6; Micah 6:6-8; etc.). Stephen addressed this very point to the law-adoring Jews that stoned him (Acts 7:51-53).

D. In the spirit.

Jesus had earlier identified the true worshippers of God as those who worship internally by involving their spirits as opposed to strictly literal or external worship (John 4:20-24).

E. And not in the letter.
Jesus knew the spirit of Moses’ law trumped the letter (Matthew 12:1-8; Mark 2:23-28). Enough said on this point.

F. Whose praise is not of men of of God~Being a Jew inwardly gives all praise to God, who alone creates a new man within his elect that allows them to worship God in the spirit and in truth, and not after the commandments of men.
Yes, all that "circumcision of the heart" was promised to Israel. Every Hebrew who is seed of Abraham got that coming. Everyone because God is a Promise Keeper and He will keep ALL Promises to Abraham and his seed.

Strike two
Secondly, God even divides Israel's elect among themselves as we mentioned above when we said:

In Paul's days, there where elect Jews, that had been converted to the truth (Paul, thousands of others) and some elect Jews yet fighting the truth. This is seen clearly from Romans 10:1-Romans 11:29. Just as there are today, many different sects in which are some of God's people, yet unconverted to the truth as it is in Jesus Christ, partially converted, but not to the degree they could be, if they would let go of the works of the flesh in relation to the truth that Salvation is of Lord, not of man in in sense whatsoever.

Coming back and to finish keep from this being too long to be profitable to our readers.
Is there such a thing as "partially pregnant???"

The New Covenant is the Mosaic Covenant fulfilled by Christ. He is its parameters:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
And write it in their hearts;
And will be their God,
And they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour (member of another tribe), and every man his brother (member of the same tribe), saying,
Know the LORD:
For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jer. 31:33–34.

And this the animal sacrifice/lamb of God did when He rose from the dead and everything was "Finished!"

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Rom. 11:25–27.

Notice there are no non-Hebrew Gentiles named or mentioned in this salvation covenant. NONE.

Strike three. The side is retired.
 
24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law. Acts 21:23–24.

Saul said he was "separated unto God" which means he had the vow of a Nazarite, purifying himself according to the Law and shaving his head all indicate his obedience to the Nazarene vow. And it clearly says he remained onedient to the Law of Moses.

Strike one on you.

Ruthie wasn't non-Hebrew Gentile. She was a Moabite, a descendant of Lot of whom Lot was a descendant of Haran who was a descendant of Terah Abraham's bother. In other words, Lot was Abraham's nephew. It was all in the family. She didn't marry an Israelite; she married a Hebrew. The Israelites came later through Jacob.

Strike two on you.

The Abraham covenant separated Hebrews from the rest of the Adamites who were eventually called "Gentile." And what SEALED the Hebrews was circumcision of their flesh which would prefigure circumcision of the "heart" (life), so God had already made distinction between obedient sons of Seth and the rest of the Adamites who were disobedient and refused to scatter and "fill the earth." Granted, the descendants of Seth referred to by God as the sons of God in Gen. 6 unequally yoked themselves to disobedient law-rejecting Adamites and their children grew up without restriction and became "bullies" and "tyrants" in which eventually a man named Nimrod who hunted men rose to prominence. But ONLY Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD and the rest of the Adamites - including the sons of God were wiped away in the flood.

Strike three. You're out!

Jesus called him Saul, so, being a Christ follower so will I instead of using his Gentile rendering of his name (all Gentiles do that.)

Next batter. Strike one.

No, God makes this distinction clear in Genesis 32:24-28.

24 And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day.
25 And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob’s thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.
26 And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me.
27 And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob.

And in keeping with the Abrahamic Promises of being a great people/nation...

28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.
Gen.32:24–28.

Strike two.

That's like calling black people all still slaves.
Jesus spoke to the religious leaders that were present when Jesus said it, so let's not confuse the truth with lies. And the word "devil" is an adjective not a pronoun nor a personal pronoun and it means "one who impugns the charater of another" or simply a "liar."

Strike three.

Typical Constantinian Gentile textbook answer.
God has everlasting covenant with Abraham and his seed. When Christ returns the children of Israel will finally receive their Promised Land and ALL non-Hebrew Gentiles will be cleansed from the land. The survivors of the Second Coming will reside in what the bible says the "four corners of the earth." Now, let's look and see what happenes to these non-Hebrew Gentiles:

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Rev. 20:7–10.

Complete and utter destruction. And the Hebrews lived happily ever after.

New batter. Strike one.

Yes, all that "circumcision of the heart" was promised to Israel. Every Hebrew who is seed of Abraham got that coming. Everyone because God is a Promise Keeper and He will keep ALL Promises to Abraham and his seed.

Strike two

Is there such a thing as "partially pregnant???"

The New Covenant is the Mosaic Covenant fulfilled by Christ. He is its parameters:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
And write it in their hearts;
And will be their God,
And they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour (member of another tribe), and every man his brother (member of the same tribe), saying,
Know the LORD:
For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jer. 31:33–34.

And this the animal sacrifice/lamb of God did when He rose from the dead and everything was "Finished!"

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Rom. 11:25–27.

Notice there are no non-Hebrew Gentiles named or mentioned in this salvation covenant. NONE.

Strike three. The side is retired.
This is jewish fables, God has moved on from the jews and the national covenant, things belong to a New Nation, under the Headship of Christ Matt 21:42-43

42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
 
This is jewish fables,
Terrible thing to claim to be Christian and reject the Holy Word of God which is supposed to be your rule of life and living. What a joke. But Gentiles pick and choose which Scripture they will obey and practice. They are, after all, the Mother of Harlots and Gentiles who claim Christ but do not do what He commands are drunk in their own antinomian ways, leaning on their own understanding in the vanity of their minds. They have rejected God's Law and in doing so are become bastards, illegitimate.
God has moved on from the jews and the national covenant, things belong to a New Nation, under the Headship of Christ Matt 21:42-43
Let's see if your theology and belief contradict the Word of God:

7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. Gen. 17:7.

Yes, yes, you contradict the Word of God.
42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. Gen. 17:7.

Scripture cannot be broken. This means your interpretation is incorrect. It's not an everlasting covenant in one passage and God taking it away in another.

Bring your theology and false belief in line with the Word of God.
 
Terrible thing to claim to be Christian and reject the Holy Word of God which is supposed to be your rule of life and living. What a joke. But Gentiles pick and choose which Scripture they will obey and practice. They are, after all, the Mother of Harlots and Gentiles who claim Christ but do not do what He commands are drunk in their own antinomian ways, leaning on their own understanding in the vanity of their minds. They have rejected God's Law and in doing so are become bastards, illegitimate.

Let's see if your theology and belief contradict the Word of God:

7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. Gen. 17:7.

Yes, yes, you contradict the Word of God.


7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. Gen. 17:7.

Scripture cannot be broken. This means your interpretation is incorrect. It's not an everlasting covenant in one passage and God taking it away in another.

Bring your theology and false belief in line with the Word of God.
Jewish fables. The Seed is Christ not national Israel, It is the world Israel Jn 1:29
 
24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law. Acts 21:23–24.

Saul said he was "separated unto God" which means he had the vow of a Nazarite, purifying himself according to the Law and shaving his head all indicate his obedience to the Nazarene vow. And it clearly says he remained onedient to the Law of Moses.

Strike one on you.

Ruthie wasn't non-Hebrew Gentile. She was a Moabite, a descendant of Lot of whom Lot was a descendant of Haran who was a descendant of Terah Abraham's bother. In other words, Lot was Abraham's nephew. It was all in the family. She didn't marry an Israelite; she married a Hebrew. The Israelites came later through Jacob.

Strike two on you.

The Abraham covenant separated Hebrews from the rest of the Adamites who were eventually called "Gentile." And what SEALED the Hebrews was circumcision of their flesh which would prefigure circumcision of the "heart" (life), so God had already made distinction between obedient sons of Seth and the rest of the Adamites who were disobedient and refused to scatter and "fill the earth." Granted, the descendants of Seth referred to by God as the sons of God in Gen. 6 unequally yoked themselves to disobedient law-rejecting Adamites and their children grew up without restriction and became "bullies" and "tyrants" in which eventually a man named Nimrod who hunted men rose to prominence. But ONLY Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD and the rest of the Adamites - including the sons of God were wiped away in the flood.

Strike three. You're out!

Jesus called him Saul, so, being a Christ follower so will I instead of using his Gentile rendering of his name (all Gentiles do that.)

Next batter. Strike one.

No, God makes this distinction clear in Genesis 32:24-28.

24 And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day.
25 And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob’s thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.
26 And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me.
27 And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob.

And in keeping with the Abrahamic Promises of being a great people/nation...

28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.
Gen.32:24–28.

Strike two.

That's like calling black people all still slaves.
Jesus spoke to the religious leaders that were present when Jesus said it, so let's not confuse the truth with lies. And the word "devil" is an adjective not a pronoun nor a personal pronoun and it means "one who impugns the charater of another" or simply a "liar."

Strike three.

Typical Constantinian Gentile textbook answer.
God has everlasting covenant with Abraham and his seed. When Christ returns the children of Israel will finally receive their Promised Land and ALL non-Hebrew Gentiles will be cleansed from the land. The survivors of the Second Coming will reside in what the bible says the "four corners of the earth." Now, let's look and see what happenes to these non-Hebrew Gentiles:

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Rev. 20:7–10.

Complete and utter destruction. And the Hebrews lived happily ever after.

New batter. Strike one.

Yes, all that "circumcision of the heart" was promised to Israel. Every Hebrew who is seed of Abraham got that coming. Everyone because God is a Promise Keeper and He will keep ALL Promises to Abraham and his seed.

Strike two

Is there such a thing as "partially pregnant???"

The New Covenant is the Mosaic Covenant fulfilled by Christ. He is its parameters:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
And write it in their hearts;
And will be their God,
And they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour (member of another tribe), and every man his brother (member of the same tribe), saying,
Know the LORD:
For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jer. 31:33–34.

And this the animal sacrifice/lamb of God did when He rose from the dead and everything was "Finished!"

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Rom. 11:25–27.

Notice there are no non-Hebrew Gentiles named or mentioned in this salvation covenant. NONE.

Strike three. The side is retired.
Leaving for a few days, to visit one of my daughters in Atlanta, I'll be back and address every single corruption of truth that your twisted mind has perverted.

You doing the pitching and calling your own strikes while your ball does not even gets to near the plate (truth) is not how it goes. Besides, you are throwing softballs to to little girls and boys you think. I may have time to make a quick post before leaving~, I'll see.
 
Jewish fables. The Seed is Christ not national Israel, It is the world Israel Jn 1:29
National Israel is found in the Seed. This establishes the Seed to be King of the Jews (national Israel) because no matter your unbelief and lack of love for Christ in refusing to obey His commandments (the Law), Abraham and his seed (national Israel) are STILL in everlasting covenant with God.
Once Revelation plays out you might "get it."
Hopefully it will not be too late.
 
Leaving for a few days, to visit one of my daughters in Atlanta, I'll be back and address every single corruption of truth that your twisted mind has perverted.

You doing the pitching and calling your own strikes while your ball does not even gets to near the plate (truth) is not how it goes. Besides, you are throwing softballs to to little girls and boys you think. I may have time to make a quick post before leaving~, I'll see.
I've already refuted your error and ignorance. There is nothing more to add. If I return it will only be to repeat myself and having to do that to those who have an existing Constantinian Gentile perspective will be hard to get you to understand. But that's not my ministry. That ability to comprehend the things of God comes from the Holy Spirit of Truth. He opens the blind eye and opens the dull of hearing.

11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.
12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Heb 5:11–14.

I come with strong meat. Way beyond your ability to comprehend. I can only plant and water. God gives the increase. And you should pray the Lord to increase your faith (knowledge.)
Game over.
Good travels, babe.

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