Bob Carabbio
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SO am I.
Is Speaking In Tongues For Today?
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praise_yeshua
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Such only exists in the origins of the Scriptures. Origins that we do not have. Thusly, we have to know manuscripts and word choices in translation to discern and educate ourselves in gaining such knowledge to know God.
Everyone seems to want to claim they know God personally and intimately through the Spirit of God. Often times what is produced in a person's life is contrary to such claims.
MTMattie
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The trouble is... there is quite a lack of consensus on most of scriptures.
As there actually is in the variety of translations.
praise_yeshua
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I can agree that there is meaningfulness in both. Not sure if I fully understand what you're saying.
MTMattie
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Easy...
You said
praise_yeshua said:
Such only exists in the origins of the Scriptures. Origins that we do not have. Thusly, we have to know manuscripts and word choices in translation to discern and educate ourselves in gaining such knowledge to know God.
Right there is the trouble because too many will argue for or against what any specific word says.... Each making a good case.... and Each then
throwing that monkey wrench into the debates as it were.
Everyone seems to want to claim they know God personally and intimately through the Spirit of God. Often times what is produced in a person's life is contrary to such claims.
Sure... when one hears the variations of interpretations one generally follows what will allow a life that is most comfortable for them.
The OSAS group feels the most freedoms. That was an old boss of mine. The stories I could tell would make you heads spin.
And he was of the predestined belief that all will be saved. ALL. Yet he grumbled every time it was his turn to hand out the communion
during a service because whosoever turn it was was in charge of supplying the wine and he simply did not want to do that... it cost money!!!
praise_yeshua
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This is an essential part of the process of understanding. It doesn't matter how many people argue for or against a particular word. There are very few times where any argument can actually result in the same meaning being true.... or possibly be a 50/50 split in determination. There is almost always a meaningful distinction in the process. Which makes it essential. Effort doesn't matter. Determination is what matters.
Correct. You can narrow/boil this down.... to identifying a "self serving" interest in most anything that dictates how people react. We just need to identify the self serving nature we all have at times. Relative to the individual, they should at least recognize what is self serving and what is not......
Christ pleased not Himself. Ultimately, even men that sacrifice themselves can and are often wrong. The complexity that exists in such determinations often lead to producing the "too much effort" to know God syndrome. Most people are just too lazy at times.
jeremiah1five
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So is "perfect" in this verse. It also means "complete."
15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Eze 28:14–15.
"Thou was 'complete' or "to specification" in thy ways..."
In other words, Lucifer was created "to [God's] specification."
It's the same for all creation, specifically, man:
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Gen. 1:30–31.
Again, in other words, "good" also means "to specification" or "good enough" for my purpose.
"Good" does not mean "morally" good. There is another word for "morally" good and it s not ever used in the creation narrative. There is another word for "morally" good and it is not ever used in the creation narrative.
So, with the creation of all things God created they were created "to [His] specification" or "complete" for the purpose He has created them. There is nothing in the universe God created that has any moral qualities to it. But all things God created were "good enough" or [to His] specification" for the purpose to which they were created.
Everything in God's created universe is stamped with what's called "entropy." There is such a thing in existence as the Law of Entropy." This means all things are created to descend into chaos. There is nothing God created that is eternal, holy, or righteous. Everything is created to "die" or descend into chaos.
ONLY GOD is eternal.
ONLY GOD is Holy.
ONLY GOD is Righteous.
Man was created fallen short of the glory of God. The word for that is "sinful" or "missing the mark of the glory of God" - including the angels.
AlwaysOnAJourney
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I have been listening to some speaking in tongues videos, it sounds like a bunch of gibberous to me, and nothing that sounds edifying to me. So I guess I just don't care about it anymore.
MTMattie
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Listen and hear me loud and clear.
NOT everyone speaks in tongues. And those that do more often or not do not even understand what they say.
Sure it sounds like gibberish.
Not everyone was given the gift of interpretations either.
You want to follow a gift. You can find things about it on the internet. Follow the gift of healing. Or who has had a healing.
My mom did back in the late 90s. She had a healing of a lump in her breast that they were rushing her to surgery because 3 mammogram machines picked it up and showed it to be bad, and came surgery day the lump disappeared.
These are wonderful things that you can read about and also then look into the gift of healing that some, not all, have... mostly charismatic
folk
Just stop dwelling on what you dont understand and seek the joys that are out there.
