Is Jesus the Christ a human Person?

[Matthias]

This comment is unwarranted and uncalled for.

It was when he made the comment to me, wasn’t it?

You don't go on a forum to talk about beliefs, than just condemn someone for having an opinion.

I haven’t condemned anyone.

You can condemn the opinion—but not just the fact of having one.

Agreed.

 

[civic]

You aren’t acting like it in this thread.



I know as well, and possibly better, than you what constitutes trinitarianism and what doesn’t.

I stood up for it in this thread. You haven’t. You compromised.

projecting again I'm not the unitarian who claims one can believe in 2 gods and be saved- that both Jesus and the Father are both God. Thats your false claim since uniratianism denies the deity of Christ. talk about an oxymoron.

At- least I'm consistent with my beliefs and the bible.

 

[civic]

Doctrine comes after salvation?

You either don’t know or don’t believe SHURF.

I see I need to tag you in a thread about the basics of salvation and the gospel message.

 

[Matthias]

projecting again I'm not the unitarian who claims one can believe in 2 gods and be saved- that both Jesus and the Father are both God. Thats your false claim since uniratianism denies the deity of Christ. talk about an oxymoron.

What?

My claim is that there is only one God, the Father alone. Everything else is idols.

There are unitarians who believe in the deity of Christ. You’ve written about them!

At- least I'm consistent with my beliefs and the bible.

 

[Matthias]

I see I need to tag you in a thread about the basics of salvation and the gospel message.

Do you know what the acronym I used stands for?

 

[synergy]

Jesus is doing something even now about false trinitarian doctrine.

Your Unitarian Jesus has nothing to do with the OT Theophanies nor the Bible, especially John Chapter 1. As such I do not recognize your Unitarian Jesus.

I’m saved. I’m being saved, I will be saved.

Who exactly does the saving in your version of unitarianism?

 

[Matthias]

Your Unitarian Jesus has nothing to do with the OT Theophanies nor the Bible, especially John Chapter 1. As such I do not recognize your Unitarian Jesus.

It’s as plain as the nose on your face that you don’t recognize the Jesus who is a human person.

You are a trinitarian.

Who exactly does the saving in your version of unitarianism?

We’ve already discussed that. This thread is about the historical orthodox teaching about the person of Jesus the Christ.

 

[Diserner]

I'm not the unitarian who claims one can believe in 2 gods and be saved

This is a good point, and it is telling that he just played the ignore card to it.

Perhaps he thinks crass unrepentant idolatry is just "no big deal" to God.

 

[civic]

This is a good point, and it is telling that he just played the ignore card to it.

Perhaps he thinks crass unrepentant idolatry is just "no big deal" to God.

the thing he doesn't know is I've dealt with some really excellent unitarian apologists on the old language forum on carm back when it was really good. do you remember forever4truth, robr , akriboo and elpis ?

Rob Bowman and Ray Goldsmith use to have some great discussions with both robr and elpis back then.

 

[Matthias]

This is a good point, and it is telling that he just played the ignore card to it.

I didn’t ignore it. I addressed it.

Perhaps he thinks crass unrepentant idolatry is just "no big deal" to God.

That’s ludicrous.

 

[civic]

I didn’t ignore it. I addressed it.



That’s ludicrous.

you never answered the question when you became born again, when did that happen ?

 

[synergy]

It’s as plain as the nose on your face that you don’t recognize the Jesus who is a human person.

It's as plain as the nose on your face that you don't recognize the Personhood of the Word of God. l, on the other hand, both recognize the Word of God Personhood plus the fact that the Biblical Jesus has a human soul and a human nature.

You are a trinitarian.

No kidding.

We’ve already discussed that. This thread is about the historical orthodox teaching about the person of Jesus the Christ.

You refuse to reveal the answer. That speaks volumes.

 

[Matthias]

It's as plain as the nose on your face that you don't recognize the Personhood of the Word of God.

The word of God became flesh.

This thread is about the trinitarian teaching that Jesus is not a human person.

l, on the other hand, both recognize the Word of God Personhood plus the fact that the Biblical Jesus has a human soul and a human nature.

No kidding.

You refuse to reveal the answer. That speaks volumes.

 

[Matthias]

you never answered the question when you became born again, when did that happen ?

SHURF is the answer. When did that happen? When I became a Jewish monotheist.

 

[civic]

SHURF is the answer. When did that happen? When I became a Jewish monotheist.

I have never heard of a person in Judaism who is born again. Yet another contradiction. It sounds like you have made up your own brand of religion.

 

[Matthias]

the thing he doesn't know is I've dealt with some really excellent unitarian apologists on the old language forum on carm back when it was really good. do you remember forever4truth, robr , akriboo and elpis ?

Were they Jewish monotheists?

Rob Bowman and Ray Goldsmith use to have some great discussions with both robr and elpis back then.

 

[Matthias]

I have never heard of a person in Judaism who is born again. Yet another contradiction.

Christianity began as a sect of, and within, Judaism.

 

[civic]

Christianity began as a sect of, and within, Judaism.

No they were all Trinitarians who confessed Christ as their God.

 

[Matthias]

No they were all Trinitarians who confessed Christ as their God.

It won’t do any good for me to quote the reams of trinitarian sources that agree with me and disagree with you.

No trinitarian source should agree with me if I’m wrong.

 

[civic]

It won’t do any good to quote the reams of trinitarian sources that agree with me and disagree with you.

sure won't since I hold to Scripture as my authority, not sinful uninspired men.