Is anyone else a Seer?

You lump everyone in Denominational churches into the same category - those who are listening to doctrines of demons. You can't justify that. Believe it or not, some denominational churches are very good with godly people, who love Jesus and desire to please Him, and don't blindly believe everything that the man behind the podium says.

I've heard MANY denominational pastors say (usually on the radio or TV), "Don't just take my word for it - look it up yourselves in your Bible."

Others, probably far fewer than the first pastors, say, "There are several different interpretations for this particular Scripture, that many godly men have differed on. Here's what they say - blah, blah, blah. Then here's what my interpretation is - blah, blah, blah. You need to decide for yourself what you believe the correct interpretation is."

Then they go on to say that no matter where you fall in your interpretation, we're not going to reject you or condemn you, Unfortunately, many denominational churches will go to the opposite extreme: if you don't agree with us on all doctrines, they will ask you to leave. I wouldn't even want to go to a church like that.

You also can't lump home churches into the same mold, either. They're all different, unless they are submitted to some strict organization that oversees them. The home church that I go to is totally independent, meeting each Sunday at the pastor's house. We are not under any denomination or overseeing organization. In the 23 years that my wife and kids (they are all grown and on their own now) and I have been attending, only one person was asked to leave. That man was being loud and disruptive and verbally and publicly attacking the pastor, who had shown nothing but love for him for over 10 years. It finally came to a head and we had to ask him to leave.

Any preconceived ideas that our home church people have, almost always comes from their reading of the Bible. They are humble enough to receive correction (1 Timothy 3:16) and the pastor is humble enough to listen to other opinions - he only expects that differing opinions be discussed at a different time than during our church service - which is just common respect.

After each church service, which consists of about 20-30 minutes of singing worship songs, followed by a 20-30 minute teaching. Then an offering is taken and communion is taken once a month. After that, on each Sunday we have a pot-luck meal, where pretty much ANY topic is fair game: the Bible, the teaching, politics, current events, prayer requests, etc. If anyone needs or requests personal counseling, the pastor will make a mid-week appointment with them. At our meal we will sometimes be talking for 2 or 3 hours.

A little rabbit trail there. So, Charismaticlady, where and when do you meet with the body of Christ?

1 John 1:6 is, as ALL the Bible is, addressed to believers. That is a good truth to remember - it also avoids, as we see right here, misinterpreting the Scripture.

"If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth; ... "

This appears to be a warning to believers who not only are tempted to return to their sins of the past, but actually fall back into that lifestyle.

Also this verse makes it super clear to all believers in the church if someone is a true believer or just pretending to be a believer. In 1 Corinthians 5:12 Paul says: "For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church?"

Why did Paul say that? Not so we can gossip about them and condemn them - but so that we can gently rebuke them and
encourage them to repent.

Once again, 2 Timothy 3:16 speaks of using Scripture for reproof and correction.

You are wrong about 1 John 1:9 We ARE to confess any and all sin that we commit, whether committed willfully or not. We see this plainly in the "Lord's Prayer" in Matthew 6:9-15:

Jesus said to pray "Give us this day our daily bread." In the same prayer, He tells us to ask God to "forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors." How often are we to do that? Well, how often are we to pray for food? Daily! So we are to ask God's forgiveness DAILY and to forgive others DAILY.

Jesus assumes that we will sin daily and that we will have others to forgive daily.

Then He gives us a strong warning: "For if you forgive others for their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others, then your Father will not forgive your transgressions."

We know all of our past sins have been forgiven. However, this Scripture makes it crystal clear that current and future sins must also be repented of, and we must seek His forgiveness for those as well.

So if we refuse to forgive others - and consequently God will not forgive our sins, will that keep us from going to heaven?

I don't know, but it's the ultimate foolishness to take that chance, and to ignore Jesus' words. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

If you dare to ignore Jesus' words, may God have mercy on you. That's not a smart thing to do.
How often are we to forgive our brethren for hurt feelings? Always.
 
I agree - always. I still didn't get your answer on this:
So, Charismaticlady, where and when do you meet with the body of Christ?
I visit different churches, and according to what I "SEE" during a sermon, there are some I visit more frequently than others. I also share my thoughts with you and others of different beliefs. I study the Bible everyday, and have pastor friends I talk to on the phone. All of my friends are Christians, and advise them how to "abide in Jesus everyday" because that is so important to be a spotless Bride of Christ when He comes. I find it is not a priority to some as they believe they have no choice but remain a sinner only in need of Christ, rather than having Him abide in them and remain cleansed of all sin. 1 John 1:7
 
Since you don't sin, why should you even bother to be spotless? In fact, according to you, you're already spotless. So would it be a sin if you didn't "abide in Jesus everyday?"

Did the apostle Peter sin in Galatians 2:11-13? Paul said he stood condemned, and later in verse 13, accused him of hypocrisy.
How is that possible, because according to you, Christians don't sin? Did Peter have "no choice but remain a sinner."

What about the man in 2 Peter 2:20-22? Peter said he was a genuine believer, but later he looked back and got entangled in sin again. Verse 21 says that he DID know the way of righteousness, so he was a believer. So I thought that, according to you, believers don't sin.

What you are doing is known as "church hopping". We are commanded to love one another. You can't do that by showing up every now and then. Jesus Himself is our example. You should try imitating Him. He REMAINED with His 12 apostles on a daily basis for 3 1/2 years? Try staying with a particular group of believers on a regular basis for even 1 year. That requires that you love them, whether you like them or not.

Even if they disagree with you - and they will - can you persevere and love them anyway?

What you're telling me is that the Christian life is all about you, instead of serving and loving one another. Whether we like it or not, we can't be a "lone wolf" Christian-obviously a figure of speech.

We are never told to judge a church by looking for a "cloud" over the pastor during his sermon. Rather we are supposed to look at whether they exhibit the fruit of the Spirit.
 
Since you don't sin, why should you even bother to be spotless? In fact, according to you, you're already spotless. So would it be a sin if you didn't "abide in Jesus everyday?"
It is very easy to not commit a sin unto death - the Commandments, but not before being born again of the Spirit. Before that I was stuck in the sin of adultery with no strength or desire to stop. It is the desire that is the sin in our nature. But the night I was born again, a lot happened after Jesus had responded to my weakness and confession and answered my prayer, the first prayer He ever answered in my 30 years of going to church. When He poured His Spirit into me after showing me a vision, and speaking to me words I'll never forget, He took all desire to be with my lover out of me. I felt it leave my body. And over the years I became strong against other sins unto death Paul wrote about in Galatians 5:19-21. To STAY strong I depend on my relationship with Jesus as I continue to abide in Him, and He is in me. Abiding in Jesus is also necessary to becoming and then being strong in all the fruit of the Spirit.
We are never told to judge a church by looking for a "cloud" over the pastor during his sermon. Rather we are supposed to look at whether they exhibit the fruit of the Spirit.
I have learned what is meant by these halos. When I see none at all these are basically plagiarized sermons that they may or may not even believe themselves. They are filled with errors. I have had ears to supernaturally hear God's voice since 1977, and now this supernatural sight was prophesied to me that I would receive back in 2000. It was a long prophecy and line by line it has come to pass from the day after I received it. As for scripture, read 1 Corinthians 2:9-13. Dwight take note of verse 14.

9 But as it is written:

Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”

10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. 11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. 13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
 
What you are doing is known as "church hopping". We are commanded to love one another. You can't do that by showing up every now and then. Jesus Himself is our example. You should try imitating Him. He REMAINED with His 12 apostles on a daily basis for 3 1/2 years? Try staying with a particular group of believers on a regular basis for even 1 year. That requires that you love them, whether you like them or not.

Even if they disagree with you - and they will - can you persevere and love them anyway?

What you're telling me is that the Christian life is all about you, instead of serving and loving one another. Whether we like it or not, we can't be a "lone wolf" Christian-obviously a figure of speech.

I am a teacher, but because what I teach is a corrective teaching I need to get to as many pastors as I can. They then can teach their churches. I know of only one church that teaches the same doctrine I do, because as it turns out, God has spoken to both of us and taught both of us the same doctrine. After all, there is only one correct interpretation to every verse He inspired.
 
What church agrees with you? Can I listen to them online?

If what you teach is from God, then all those who love God will readily receive it.

John 7:17 "If anyone is willing to do His will, he will know of the teaching, whether it is of God or whether I speak from Myself."

At this point, I cannot receive your teaching. So according to that verse, either I'm not willing to do His will, or your teaching is from yourself. I'm honestly not aware that I do not want to do His will. In fact I do want to do His will. Each day I pray, "Your kingdom come, Your will be done in me and in everyone that I pray for.
 
What church agrees with you? Can I listen to them online?

If what you teach is from God, then all those who love God will readily receive it.

John 7:17 "If anyone is willing to do His will, he will know of the teaching, whether it is of God or whether I speak from Myself."

At this point, I cannot receive your teaching. So according to that verse, either I'm not willing to do His will, or your teaching is from yourself. I'm honestly not aware that I do not want to do His will. In fact I do want to do His will. Each day I pray, "Your kingdom come, Your will be done in me and in everyone that I pray for.
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What church agrees with you? Can I listen to them online?

If what you teach is from God, then all those who love God will readily receive it.

John 7:17 "If anyone is willing to do His will, he will know of the teaching, whether it is of God or whether I speak from Myself."

At this point, I cannot receive your teaching. So according to that verse, either I'm not willing to do His will, or your teaching is from yourself. I'm honestly not aware that I do not want to do His will. In fact I do want to do His will. Each day I pray, "Your kingdom come, Your will be done in me and in everyone that I pray for.
I don't "listen" to their services. I just read their books. I don't know if you know about the prophecy I received in 2000 but one line from it was about me being part of the "trailblazers" He was setting up. Leroy and Keith Surface seems to be them.

The reason why I don't listen to them is because of their "style" of preaching I'm not used to. It's old-time Pentecostal. I would just rather read their words.
 
New Testament examples of believers who committed sin(s):

1. Peter denied Jesus 3 times, succumbing to the fear of man. - Matthew 26:69-75
2. Peter again succumbed to the fear of man, not wanting to be seen eating with Gentiles. - Galatians 2:11-21
3. Ananias and Sapphira attempted to deceive Peter into thinking that they were donating the full price of the land that they sold, but actually they kept some for themselves, which Peter called lying to the Holy Spirit and lying to God. Acts 5:1-11
4. Judas must have been a true believer at first, because Jesus chose him along with the other eleven, but later he was a thief, a liar, and a betrayer of the Lord.
5. A man in the Corinthian church got into immorality with his father's wife. 1 Corinthians 5:1
6. All the apostles abandoned Jesus when He was arrested. Mark 14:50
7. Paul said that Demas , having loved this present world, had deserted him. 2 Timothy 4:10
8. Paul said "But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, ..." 1 Timothy 4:1
9. When Paul and Barnabas set sail from Paphos, John Mark left them, abandoning his ministry. Acts 13:13
10. James said "For we all stumble in many ways." James 3:2 Stumble here means "sin".
11. "But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not from faith is sin." Romans 14:23
12. "But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt?" Romans 14:10

I'm sure there are more, but all these reveal the truth that James clearly stated in 1 John 1:8: "If we (believers) say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us."

Charismatic Lady, you are deceiving yourself and the truth is not in you.
 
New Testament examples of believers who committed sin(s):

1. Peter denied Jesus 3 times, succumbing to the fear of man. - Matthew 26:69-75
2. Peter again succumbed to the fear of man, not wanting to be seen eating with Gentiles. - Galatians 2:11-21
3. Ananias and Sapphira attempted to deceive Peter into thinking that they were donating the full price of the land that they sold, but actually they kept some for themselves, which Peter called lying to the Holy Spirit and lying to God. Acts 5:1-11
4. Judas must have been a true believer at first, because Jesus chose him along with the other eleven, but later he was a thief, a liar, and a betrayer of the Lord.
5. A man in the Corinthian church got into immorality with his father's wife. 1 Corinthians 5:1
6. All the apostles abandoned Jesus when He was arrested. Mark 14:50
7. Paul said that Demas , having loved this present world, had deserted him. 2 Timothy 4:10
8. Paul said "But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, ..." 1 Timothy 4:1
9. When Paul and Barnabas set sail from Paphos, John Mark left them, abandoning his ministry. Acts 13:13
10. James said "For we all stumble in many ways." James 3:2 Stumble here means "sin".
11. "But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not from faith is sin." Romans 14:23
12. "But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt?" Romans 14:10

I'm sure there are more, but all these reveal the truth that James clearly stated in 1 John 1:8: "If we (believers) say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us."

Charismatic Lady, you are deceiving yourself and the truth is not in you.
Thank you, Dwight. Sinning is certainly the natural thing to do, because 'natural' is to sin. But Paul to the Romans, chapter 6 taught it right. "Why sin when you don't have to?" But he said that to those who could be born again of the Spirit. The natural world teaches the opposite, for the truth is unorthodox. The truth is supernatural.

John 8:32, 34-36
32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
34 Jesus answered them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin. 35 ;And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever. 36 Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.

Free? Yes, FREE FROM SIN.

The Orthodox is FREE TO SIN. There is nothing supernatural going on inside the world with their old men in them, the ancient sin nature you want to hold on to. Your 'gospel' is powerless. The truth is the POWER OF GOD. Romans 1:16-17

16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.”
 
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Charismatic Lady, you are deceiving yourself and the truth is not in you.
I know a lot of people misinterpret 1 John 1:8 and Romans 7:14-25 and say these people are born again of the Spirit Christians. They're NOT! They are BEFORE being cleansed of ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS. Therefore, if we are cleansed of all unrighteousness WHY would it be a sin to say we're not?
 
It's a sin to ignore the verses that I just gave you, which show clearly that Christians still sin, including you. So does Romans 7:14-25. Paul is describing the conflict of two natures in us. Sure, if we were able to walk in the Spirit 24/7, we would never sin, but no human being, other than Jesus, has ever done that. Paul concludes that passage with: "So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin." If we are in the Spirit, we will serve God, if we are in the flesh, we will serve sin.
Who will set us free from the body of this death? Thank God - Jesus will, if we continue to choose to walk in the Spirit. Who still has free will to even give in to the flesh? We do! Jesus NEVER took away our free will.
The same is true in our salvation. Jesus saved us but He did not remove our free will - we can choose to go back to the world, like Demas did, or we can choose to keep following Jesus - that's my choice.
 
It's a sin to ignore the verses that I just gave you, which show clearly that Christians still sin, including you. So does Romans 7:14-25. Paul is describing the conflict of two natures in us. Sure, if we were able to walk in the Spirit 24/7, we would never sin, but no human being, other than Jesus, has ever done that. Paul concludes that passage with: "So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin." If we are in the Spirit, we will serve God, if we are in the flesh, we will serve sin.
Who will set us free from the body of this death? Thank God - Jesus will, if we continue to choose to walk in the Spirit. Who still has free will to even give in to the flesh? We do! Jesus NEVER took away our free will.
The same is true in our salvation. Jesus saved us but He did not remove our free will - we can choose to go back to the world, like Demas did, or we can choose to keep following Jesus - that's my choice.
There is a difference between a true Christian and one just taught what to SAY if you are. I told you the difference. I was in church for 30 years before becoming a true Christian that Jesus could START the process of glorification. That is START, not FINISH. To finish our process of maturing all of the fruit of the Spirit we must abide in Him. If we are not abiding IN Him, we WILL walk in the flesh! Guaranteed! Can you see how important walking in the Spirit is and not just saying you are. If we are not but say we are we are liars!!! That is like Ananias and Sapphira!

The lie of 1 John 1:8 is the same as that of 2:4. "4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

It is not that we can never stop sinning! It is only a lie when you're sinning, and say you're not! And that is the same for verse 10! None of us are born sinless! That only applies to Jesus, but it is why we must be BORN AGAIN!

Can you even understand the difference? I really don't think you are even open to it.
 
So you think genuine Christians will automatically and always walk in the Spirit? Think again.

Peter didn't. He sinned by fearing man rather than God. Was he a genuine believer? Of course.

What about the man guilty of immorality in the Corinthian church? Paul never said that that man was not a genuine Christian, yet he fell into sin. Later, we know he repented of that sin and Paul encouraged the church to forgive him and take him back.

Even Paul himself admitted that sometimes he would do the very thing that he did not want to do, admitting that it was sin. Was he a genuine Christian? Of course he was.

What about you? Do you ever get into the flesh? Of course you do - if you say you don't, you're lying.

In fact, James said that we ALL stumble in many ways - that includes you and me.

By the way, I believe the Bible teaches that we ALL are born innocent - without sin, or maybe it would be more accurate to say that they don't know the difference between good and evil. So it appears that God does not hold them accountable for their sins at such a young age. Otherwise, how could babies and children go to heaven? Jesus said that the kingdom of God belongs to such as these, so they do go to heaven if they die at that early age.

Each child, as he grows, reaches the age where he can discern right from wrong. From that point on, he is accountable for his decisions, including his sins.

I'm open to what you say. I just disagree with it and so does the Bible.
 
What about the man guilty of immorality in the Corinthian church? Paul never said that that man was not a genuine Christian, yet he fell into sin. Later, we know he repented of that sin and Paul encouraged the church to forgive him and take him back.
Think again. Genuine Christian? The whole church was weak.

2 Corinthians 7:9 Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance. For you were made sorry in a godly manner, that you might suffer loss from us in nothing. 10 For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation
 
So you think genuine Christians will automatically and always walk in the Spirit? Think again.
You know what, dwight. The key word in your question is "genuine." I was thinking about your question today and wanted to ask you how strong a dose of the Holy Spirit did you receive, or have you never been baptized in the Holy Spirit yet where you have been given supernatural powers. As I may have told you, I was in church for 30 years, and the last 6 of those were actually seeking and failing to receive that baptism of fire and inner relationship with God. Before that I was raised in a denomination that believed those supernatural gifts were actually from the devil, not God. Those denominations are dangerous to our soul. Therefore, I believe there may be many in the whole church, and especially in the cessationist type denominations who refuse to seek God to the point of Him being found. They have been taught to be afraid. But Jesus said, "fear not."

When Jesus baptized me with fire, that fire burned away all major past sins and desires from my nature. I think it was because I could also from that Wednesday night prayer service on hear God's voice regularly. He even told me what to pray, and all I had to do was repeat the words He said, and I received the answer to the prayer (100% in 48 years. I think someone in the church that does not have this supernatural relationship with God, knowing Who He is could fall silent and not be in the Spirit as they chose to stop being in His presence.

People like to bring up saints in the Bible who sinned. But we will all sin until we have been baptized with the Spirit. Peter denied knowing Jesus, but it wasn't until after Jesus was raised from the dead did He give the apostles the Holy Spirit, then the power baptism (the second baptism) on the Day of Pentecost.
 
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Okay, so in your opinion, I am not a true Christian. It's a good thing that I don't live my life by your opinion, but by the Word of God. My faith is in Jesus, not in you.

1 John 4:6 "We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error."
and , yet what if i told you that a number so high me and perhaps a hundred men could not count it
in a week , is actually loving , has embraced and is following THIS SPIRIT OF ERROR .
Which preaches anti christ and its solution , its love , its universal love
that has promised this people that it is of GOD , and it is THE WAY , THE TRUTH and THE PATH
that shall give them peace and safety on earth . We better be on gaurd
and test all spirits , cause WOLVES IN WOOL by very plentiful in these last hours feeding
the simple the wrong stuff .
 
and , yet what if i told you that a number so high me and perhaps a hundred men could not count it
in a week , is actually loving , has embraced and is following THIS SPIRIT OF ERROR .
Which preaches anti christ and its solution , its love , its universal love
that has promised this people that it is of GOD , and it is THE WAY , THE TRUTH and THE PATH
that shall give them peace and safety on earth . We better be on gaurd
and test all spirits , cause WOLVES IN WOOL by very plentiful in these last hours feeding
the simple the wrong stuff .
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“We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭4‬:‭6‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
and , yet what if i told you that a number so high me and perhaps a hundred men could not count it
in a week , is actually loving , has embraced and is following THIS SPIRIT OF ERROR .
Which preaches anti christ and its solution , its love , its universal love
that has promised this people that it is of GOD , and it is THE WAY , THE TRUTH and THE PATH
that shall give them peace and safety on earth . We better be on gaurd
and test all spirits , cause WOLVES IN WOOL by very plentiful in these last hours feeding
the simple the wrong stuff .
You need to learn the English language, so that your posts can be understood. You are not making sense.
 
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