How is a Christian Different from Others?

[David Koberstein]

If you're not of Abraham's seed, then your "Christianity" is a lie.
The Abraham, Mosaic, and New Covenants are between God, Abraham, and Abraham's seed, a people later to be called the children of Israel and the House of Israel and Judah.
No Gentiles.

Here we go with this lie again. This person takes Christian racism to a new level. We are all one in Yeshua no matter your ethnicity.

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

yes there are non christians, non religious people who reflect godly qualities moreso than many who name the name of Jesus.

and yet are not saved .
What we have here are two groups , one names the name of JESUS but works darkness the other denies the name of JESUS
and thus IS IN darkness as well . but yes , sometimes the non religious can appear to have a better form of godliness
than the ungodly within christendom can appear to have . But darkness is darkness and thus they are not saved .
THEY IN DIRE AND TOTAL NEED OF JESUS THE CHRIST . now raise them hands up and let the praises with thanksgivings be
sounded out in thunderous glory UNTO HE WHO DOES SAVE and CAN SAVE , THAT BE JESUS THE CHRIST OF GOD .
TIME to Sound out the dire need for souls to BELIEVE ON HIM .

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

You must have had a Hebrew in your family ancestry for the covenant is to Abraham's seed.

For starters a hebrew man once said , And to THY SEED , which is JESUS THE CHRIST .
so , THAT BE THE PROMISE . and the jew and the gentile whose faith be in THAT SEED , are the true family of GOD .
But that is rather funny you say this . because Apparently there be HEBREW in the family line all right .
NOT that i clind to or hope in the flesh . I dont . Rather was i a hebrew or not , THE FLESH PROFITS NOTHING .
what does profit is , JESUS THE CHRIST and BELIEVING IN HIM . now raise them hands up and let all that has breath
praise the LORD .

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

Here we go with this lie again. This person takes Christian racism to a new level. We are all one in Yeshua no matter your ethnicity.

Lets add just a tiny bit to this line . We are all one in YESHUA , IF WE ARE OF YESHUA , aka WE BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
IN other words , THE FLESH , that skin suit we are born with
PROFITS NADA . YE MUST BELIEVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST . THAT BE THE ONE TRUE FAMILY OF GOD . now raise them hands
IT BE LORD PRAISING and THANKING Time in the building .

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

Here we go with this lie again. This person takes Christian racism to a new level. We are all one in Yeshua no matter your ethnicity.

whether a man be born a hebrew or a gentile
will not save that man .
The sheep heed ONE VOICE and by HIM have been saved . HIS NAME BE JESUS THE GLORIOUS CHRIST
and if a man , woman , rejects HIM , I dont care whether they a hebrew or a gentile
THEY HAVE REJECTED GOD and thus wailing is their end .
The GOD of abraham , issac and jacob . THAT FATHER SENT JESUS THE CHRIST .
And HE sure had much to say and to teach as well . Now lift those hands and praise the LORD .
There is one fold , consisting of jewish born and gentile born BELEIVERS . They BE ONE .
the middle wall of parttion has been broken down .
IN JESUS CHRIST and in CHRIST JESUS alone , IS ONLY SALVATION FOUND .
our skin tone wont save us . HE DOES . SO this lamb gonna point to HE and HE ALONE . now raise them hands up
cause IT IS LORD praising time in the building .

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

You must have had a Hebrew in your family ancestry for the covenant is to Abraham's seed.

Oh i do my friend . but that would not have mattered . what matters is That ONE COMETH TO THE CHRIST OF GOD .
As a former hebrew named paul once wrote , I count all things as dung to win Christ and to be found IN HIM
not having my own righteousnes which is of the law , but the righteousness WHICH IS OF FAITH , OF CHRIST .
and that same hebrew told other hebrews and gentiles , NO MAN shall be justified by the law .
THE PROMISE of THE SEED , the promise given to abraham ,
paul later reminds us and to abraham was the gospel preached .
AND JESUS said , ABRAHAM saw MY DAY , HE SAW and AND HE REJOICED . SO did david when david saw his Ressurection too .
THE PROMISE given unto the FATHERS , WAS ALWAYS GONNA BE ABOUT JESUS THE CHRIST .
And that same JESUS said , the flesh profits nothing , YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN . So
it dont matter whether one has hebrew in their family line , AS I DO , OR NOT . what matters is BELIEVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .

 

[Marvelloustime]

Oh i do my friend . but that would not have mattered . what matters is That ONE COMETH TO THE CHRIST OF GOD .
As a former hebrew named paul once wrote , I count all things as dung to win Christ and to be found IN HIM
not having my own righteousnes which is of the law , but the righteousness WHICH IS OF FAITH , OF CHRIST .
and that same hebrew told other hebrews and gentiles , NO MAN shall be justified by the law .
THE PROMISE of THE SEED , the promise given to abraham ,
paul later reminds us and to abraham was the gospel preached .
AND JESUS said , ABRAHAM saw MY DAY , HE SAW and AND HE REJOICED . SO did david when david saw his Ressurection too .
THE PROMISE given unto the FATHERS , WAS ALWAYS GONNA BE ABOUT JESUS THE CHRIST .
And that same JESUS said , the flesh profits nothing , YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN . So
it dont matter whether one has hebrew in their family line , AS I DO , OR NOT . what matters is BELIEVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .

Brother is spotted.

 

[Marvelloustime]

Oh i do my friend . but that would not have mattered . what matters is That ONE COMETH TO THE CHRIST OF GOD .
As a former hebrew named paul once wrote , I count all things as dung to win Christ and to be found IN HIM
not having my own righteousnes which is of the law , but the righteousness WHICH IS OF FAITH , OF CHRIST .
and that same hebrew told other hebrews and gentiles , NO MAN shall be justified by the law .
THE PROMISE of THE SEED , the promise given to abraham ,
paul later reminds us and to abraham was the gospel preached .
AND JESUS said , ABRAHAM saw MY DAY , HE SAW and AND HE REJOICED . SO did david when david saw his Ressurection too .
THE PROMISE given unto the FATHERS , WAS ALWAYS GONNA BE ABOUT JESUS THE CHRIST .
And that same JESUS said , the flesh profits nothing , YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN . So
it dont matter whether one has hebrew in their family line , AS I DO , OR NOT . what matters is BELIEVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .

 

[mikesw]

To the original post, the difference of the Christians from the Israel situation means that God's influence (through his Spirit in us) allows us (in the broad numbers of Christians) to influence the world in a godly sense without being grounded in one city. Everywhere that Christians go can be influenced by God's wisdom. Plus there is more an inclination in Christians to behave well. With the Mosaic/Levitical system, God had to draw people to Jerusalem to give some degree of continuing centrality of God along with the godly influence to change them.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

they could ask, what makes me different from my current self if I become a Christian?

Being indwelled by the Holy Spirit is ONE BIG difference (given that we're also completely cleansed from SIN, and justified before God). Romans 8:28, and more importantly 29 tells the story.

 

[SteveB]

Sometimes we see someone who is more loving and giving than most of us could ever expect to be. The question
arises then as to the manner by which we as Christians are different from non-Christians. Why does God have
Christians instead of just repented "gentiles?" From the perspective of the one being evangelized, they could ask,
what makes me different from my current self if I become a Christian?

Hi.

The new birth is what makes us different from those who are not following Jesus.

In talking to Nicodemus in John 3, it's important to note that Nicodemus was probably the most well educated teacher in Israel at the time.
He knew everything about the Bible and apparently was "the" teacher of the country.
Yet, it wasn't enough.
He needed more.
It wasn't enough to keep the Law, wear the right clothes, be in the right circles of influence and have the right friends and the best standing in the community.

Jesus starts off telling him...

You must be born again to see, and enter God's Kingdom. John 3:3-5.

Nicodemus of course wasn't aware of this, and proceeded to ask Jesus about it.

In 1 Peter 1:23, we're told that we are born again by God's Word.
That God's Word is a seed that lasts forever.
Paul tells Titus that we are regenerated by the Holy Spirit. Titus 3:5.

In Ezekiel 36:25-27 we read that God actually does something only he can do to make it possible for us to actually succeed in knowing God.

He pours clean water on us, and cleanses us from our sin and idols.
He removes the old stony heart of flesh and gives us a new heart of flesh.
He gives us a new spirit.

He then gives us His Holy Spirit to cause us to keep his ordinances and judgments.

While this may seem out of line with the rest of the new testament, we note in Romans 8, vss 4-5, the only way to successfully satisfy the righteous requirements of the law is to walk in the Spirit, and the only way to achieve that is to focus our thoughts on spiritual things.

In Matthew 22:37-40, Jesus tells us that the Law and Prophets are summed up in the two great commands.
Love God and love your neighbor.

Paul further stated in Romans 13:8-10 that the law is satisfied by loving your neighbor as yourself.

We further read in Galatians 5:16-25 regarding the fruits of the Spirit.

In Galatians 6:15 Paul tells us that the only thing that avails is that we are a new creation.

Thus, what makes us different from those who are outside of Christ is the New Birth.

 

[mikesw]

Hi.

The new birth is what makes us different from those who are not following Jesus.

In talking to Nicodemus in John 3, it's important to note that Nicodemus was probably the most well educated teacher in Israel at the time.
He knew everything about the Bible and apparently was "the" teacher of the country.
Yet, it wasn't enough.
He needed more.
It wasn't enough to keep the Law, wear the right clothes, be in the right circles of influence and have the right friends and the best standing in the community.

Jesus starts off telling him...

You must be born again to see, and enter God's Kingdom. John 3:3-5.

Nicodemus of course wasn't aware of this, and proceeded to ask Jesus about it.

In 1 Peter 1:23, we're told that we are born again by God's Word.
That God's Word is a seed that lasts forever.
Paul tells Titus that we are regenerated by the Holy Spirit. Titus 3:5.

In Ezekiel 36:25-27 we read that God actually does something only he can do to make it possible for us to actually succeed in knowing God.

He pours clean water on us, and cleanses us from our sin and idols.
He removes the old stony heart of flesh and gives us a new heart of flesh.
He gives us a new spirit.

He then gives us His Holy Spirit to cause us to keep his ordinances and judgments.

While this may seem out of line with the rest of the new testament, we note in Romans 8, vss 4-5, the only way to successfully satisfy the righteous requirements of the law is to walk in the Spirit, and the only way to achieve that is to focus our thoughts on spiritual things.

In Matthew 22:37-40, Jesus tells us that the Law and Prophets are summed up in the two great commands.
Love God and love your neighbor.

Paul further stated in Romans 13:8-10 that the law is satisfied by loving your neighbor as yourself.

We further read in Galatians 5:16-25 regarding the fruits of the Spirit.

In Galatians 6:15 Paul tells us that the only thing that avails is that we are a new creation.

Thus, what makes us different from those who are outside of Christ is the New Birth.

Sure. My original post was probing how Christians were different when encountering the broader society. The comparison was to a city like Jerusalem that were God's people. The odd thing was that I was not sure if I was asking the question that I had before I posted in the OP

 

[SteveB]

Sure. My original post was probing how Christians were different when encountering the broader society. The comparison was to a city like Jerusalem that were God's people. The odd thing was that I was not sure if I was asking the question that I had before I posted in the OP

I'm working from the original post and did not read through the entire collection of subsequent discussions.

 

[e v e]

You must have had a Hebrew in your family ancestry for the covenant is to Abraham's seed.

every soul who came out of Him, from Him, is a hebrew soul = an eden soul.

It's about the soul not the ape flesh.

In eden, His type nature, in the other reality where eden is, the soul was npsh - one undivided being (soul and body).... the term is the same...

after the fall we are now in a much degraded fleshbody and 'nature' - only our tiny core soul is His... the flesh no.


therefore to focused on ape body heredity is a massive not understanding what is a hebrew Soul.

 

[e v e]

there are hebrew souls and also corrupt souls never from Him which are the seed in enmity to eve. that seed is esau.

so there, in the theme of foreign souls against God, is the war of esau against poor confused jacob.

 

[e v e]

esau corrupted the scroll of His words. All modern christianity - jacob who esau hates - pretty much follows the corrupt scroll and is anti-christ. this is the meaning of antichrist.

though no one cares.

 

[mikesw]

I'm working from the original post and did not read through the entire collection of subsequent discussions.

Sure. I forgot to include that I had no complaint with what you shared

 

[jeremiah1five]

Here we go with this lie again. This person takes Christian racism to a new level. We are all one in Yeshua no matter your ethnicity.

Blame God. He chose a Hebrew family and separated them from the rest of the Adamites. Once covenant was made (and you should consider the ramifications of the promises) and circumcised sealed the deal then in a mater of a couple of generations Gentiles (non-Hebrews) were identified and those people 'over there' who was not in the Abrahamic Covenant. Egypt got involved and soon there were "them Hebrews" and "them Egyptians" and Egyptians did not treat their own the way they did the Hebrews and that pissed off the God of Abraham. Don't mess with His chosen, elect, royal priesthood, and special people ABOVE all the families in the earth. Made Gentiles jealous and fearful. Ask Rahab.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Here we go with this lie again. This person takes Christian racism to a new level. We are all one in Yeshua no matter your ethnicity.

All one in Yeshua? Where does that say that in Scripture? Maybe it says that in Genesis 3:15? Sure, seed of the woman and seed of the serpent are all one people in Yeshua, right?
Garbage. You can compromise the Word of God and heed doctrines of devils but not me. Stay with the delusion God sent upon the world. What do you get when you mate seed of the woman with seed of the serpent?

 

[jeremiah1five]

For starters a hebrew man once said , And to THY SEED , which is JESUS THE CHRIST .
so , THAT BE THE PROMISE . and the jew and the gentile whose faith be in THAT SEED , are the true family of GOD .
But that is rather funny you say this . because Apparently there be HEBREW in the family line all right .
NOT that i clind to or hope in the flesh . I dont . Rather was i a hebrew or not , THE FLESH PROFITS NOTHING .
what does profit is , JESUS THE CHRIST and BELIEVING IN HIM . now raise them hands up and let all that has breath
praise the LORD .

If the covenant is with the Hebrew people, which two Hebrew parents birth the first non-Hebrew Gentile?

I'm sure that Hebrew man who became born again continued obeying the Law and observing everything God instructed even though Gentiles teach the Law of Moses is "abolished."