He that believes and is not water baptised is saved

The Apostle Paul is introducing himself to The church at Rome.

Paul wishes for the favor and peace (v 7) of God to rest upon these Gentile Roman believers. Paul states that God is our Father. This puts the Gentile believers in Rome into the same family with Paul. Similarly, they also both have Jesus Christ as their Lord.
Great post. And the entire book is to the people that were already saved. Especially chapter 10 verse 9. This means that Romans 10:9 is for the Saints and not for sinners. It is to encourage them to confess and believe Jesus every day, especially in their tough times. This is how they can remain in the faith.
 
Let us let Paul answer this question.

Correction, this is how Cornelius and his family were saved…

47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord…


So, the moral of the story is, baptize them in the name of the Lord, and don’t forbid water.
 
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Just a suggestion but you should stock up on all the commentaries you can get. I'm not saying you're thinking it's off but... if the shoe fits
I started thinking for myself about 30 years ago. I noticed the side notes in my Bible and endless explanations were crooked as a jegleg dog… Lol.
 
Correction, this is how Cornelius and his family were saved…

47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord…


So, the moral of the story is, baptized them in the name of the Lord, and don’t forbid water.
A good bible commentary will show you the Error In baptismal regeneration. It's really hard to read the bible and put the Cart in front of the horse but people that believe Water baptism is necessary for salvation managed to do it. Follow Fritz's advice and get some good bible commentaries. Are you allowed to have them in the church you go to? Or do you have to believe just what they tell you.
 
A good bible commentary will show you the Error In baptismal regeneration. It's really hard to read the bible and put the Cart in front of the horse but people that believe Water baptism is necessary for salvation managed to do it. Follow Fritz's advice and get some good bible commentaries. Are you allowed to have them in the church you go to? Or do you have to believe just what they tell you.
How do you decide what’s a good commentary and a bad commentary? Your own personal beliefs lineup with the particular commentary?
 
What is baptismal regeneration?

Baptismal regeneration is the belief that baptism is necessary for salvation, or, more precisely, that regeneration does not occur until a person is water baptized. Baptismal regeneration is a tenet of numerous Christian denominations, but is most strenuously promoted by churches in the Restoration Movement, specifically the Church of Christ and the International Church of Christ.

Advocates of baptismal regeneration point to Scripture verses such as Mark 16:16, John 3:5, Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16, Galatians 3:27, and 1 Peter 3:21 for biblical support. And, granted, those verses seem to indicate that baptism is necessary for salvation. However, there are biblically and contextually sound interpretations of those verses that do not support baptismal regeneration. Please see the following articles:

Does Mark 16:16 teach that baptism is necessary for salvation?

Does John 3:5 teach that baptism is necessary for salvation?

Does Acts 2:38 teach that baptism is necessary for salvation?

Does Acts 22:16 teach that baptism is necessary for salvation?

Does Galatians 3:27 teach that baptism is necessary for salvation?

Does 1 Peter 3:21 teach that baptism is necessary for salvation?

Advocates of baptismal regeneration typically have a four-part formula for how salvation is received. They believe that a person must believe, repent, confess, and be baptized in order to be saved. They believe this way because there are biblical passages that seem to indicate that each of these actions is necessary for salvation. For example, Romans 10:9–10 links salvation with confession. Acts 2:38 links salvation with repentance and baptism.

Repentance, understood biblically, is required for salvation. Repentance is a change of mind. Repentance, in relation to salvation, is changing your mind from rejection of Christ to acceptance of Christ. It is not a separate step from saving faith. Rather, it is an essential aspect of saving faith. One cannot receive Jesus Christ as Savior, by grace through faith, without a change of mind about who He is and what He did.

Confession, understood biblically, is a demonstration of faith. If a person has truly received Jesus Christ as Savior, proclaiming that faith to others will be a result. If a person is ashamed of Christ and/or ashamed of the message of the gospel, it is highly unlikely that the person has understood the gospel or experienced the salvation that Christ provides.

Baptism, understood biblically, is an identification with Christ. Christian baptism illustrates a believer’s identification with Christ’s death, burial, and resurrection (Romans 6:3–4). As with confession, if a person is unwilling to be baptized—unwilling to identify his/her life as being redeemed by Jesus Christ—that person has very likely not been made a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17) through faith in Jesus Christ.

Those who contend for baptismal regeneration and/or this four-part formula for receiving salvation do not view these actions as meritorious works that earn salvation. Repenting, confessing, etc., do not make a person worthy of salvation. Rather, the official view is that faith, repentance, confession, and baptism are “works of obedience,” things a person must do before God grants salvation. While the standard Protestant understanding is that faith is the one thing God requires before salvation is granted, those of the baptismal regeneration persuasion believe that baptism—and, for some, repentance and confession—are additional things God requires before He grants salvation.

The problem with this viewpoint is that there are biblical passages that clearly and explicitly declare faith to be the only requirement for salvation. John 3:16, one of the most well-known verses in the Bible, states, “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” In Acts 16:30, the Philippian jailer asks the apostle Paul, “What must I do to be saved?” If there was ever an opportunity for Paul to present a four-part formula, this was it. Paul’s response was simple: “Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved” (Acts 16:31). No baptism, no confession, just faith.

There are literally dozens of verses in the New Testament that attribute salvation to faith/belief with no other requirement mentioned in the context. If baptism, or anything else, is necessary for salvation, all of these verses are wrong, and the Bible contains errors and is therefore no longer worthy of our trust.

An exhaustive study of the New Testament on various requirements for salvation is not necessary. Receiving salvation is not a process or a multi-step formula. Salvation is a finished product, not a recipe. What must we do to be saved? Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and we will be saved.
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What is baptismal regeneration?

Baptismal regeneration is the belief that baptism is necessary for salvation, or, more precisely, that regeneration does not occur until a person is water baptized. Baptismal regeneration is a tenet of numerous Christian denominations, but is most strenuously promoted by churches in the Restoration Movement, specifically the Church of Christ and the International Church of Christ.

Advocates of baptismal regeneration point to Scripture verses such as Mark 16:16, John 3:5, Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16, Galatians 3:27, and 1 Peter 3:21 for biblical support. And, granted, those verses seem to indicate that baptism is necessary for salvation. However, there are biblically and contextually sound interpretations of those verses that do not support baptismal regeneration. Please see the following articles:

Does Mark 16:16 teach that baptism is necessary for salvation?

Does John 3:5 teach that baptism is necessary for salvation?

Does Acts 2:38 teach that baptism is necessary for salvation?

Does Acts 22:16 teach that baptism is necessary for salvation?

Does Galatians 3:27 teach that baptism is necessary for salvation?

Does 1 Peter 3:21 teach that baptism is necessary for salvation?

Advocates of baptismal regeneration typically have a four-part formula for how salvation is received. They believe that a person must believe, repent, confess, and be baptized in order to be saved. They believe this way because there are biblical passages that seem to indicate that each of these actions is necessary for salvation. For example, Romans 10:9–10 links salvation with confession. Acts 2:38 links salvation with repentance and baptism.

Repentance, understood biblically, is required for salvation. Repentance is a change of mind. Repentance, in relation to salvation, is changing your mind from rejection of Christ to acceptance of Christ. It is not a separate step from saving faith. Rather, it is an essential aspect of saving faith. One cannot receive Jesus Christ as Savior, by grace through faith, without a change of mind about who He is and what He did.

Confession, understood biblically, is a demonstration of faith. If a person has truly received Jesus Christ as Savior, proclaiming that faith to others will be a result. If a person is ashamed of Christ and/or ashamed of the message of the gospel, it is highly unlikely that the person has understood the gospel or experienced the salvation that Christ provides.

Baptism, understood biblically, is an identification with Christ. Christian baptism illustrates a believer’s identification with Christ’s death, burial, and resurrection (Romans 6:3–4). As with confession, if a person is unwilling to be baptized—unwilling to identify his/her life as being redeemed by Jesus Christ—that person has very likely not been made a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17) through faith in Jesus Christ.

Those who contend for baptismal regeneration and/or this four-part formula for receiving salvation do not view these actions as meritorious works that earn salvation. Repenting, confessing, etc., do not make a person worthy of salvation. Rather, the official view is that faith, repentance, confession, and baptism are “works of obedience,” things a person must do before God grants salvation. While the standard Protestant understanding is that faith is the one thing God requires before salvation is granted, those of the baptismal regeneration persuasion believe that baptism—and, for some, repentance and confession—are additional things God requires before He grants salvation.

The problem with this viewpoint is that there are biblical passages that clearly and explicitly declare faith to be the only requirement for salvation. John 3:16, one of the most well-known verses in the Bible, states, “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” In Acts 16:30, the Philippian jailer asks the apostle Paul, “What must I do to be saved?” If there was ever an opportunity for Paul to present a four-part formula, this was it. Paul’s response was simple: “Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved” (Acts 16:31). No baptism, no confession, just faith.

There are literally dozens of verses in the New Testament that attribute salvation to faith/belief with no other requirement mentioned in the context. If baptism, or anything else, is necessary for salvation, all of these verses are wrong, and the Bible contains errors and is therefore no longer worthy of our trust.

An exhaustive study of the New Testament on various requirements for salvation is not necessary. Receiving salvation is not a process or a multi-step formula. Salvation is a finished product, not a recipe. What must we do to be saved? Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and we will be saved.
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That’s a mouthful of commentary
 
In other words, that big long lecture just talked you out of being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.
 
Is this problem you fellers are having stemming from the Acts 2:38 anonymous group that the RCC started 1700 years ago?
You do realize you do not have to join her group, correct?
 
In other words, that big long lecture just talked you out of being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.
Well we have to admit it does sink your baptism theory. It's salvation first then you get baptized. Your sins were taken care of on the cross by the blood of Jesus your salvation comes when you accept what he did. Baptism is a public ceremony depicting your conversion.
 
Yes really

The claim was you cannot be born again apart from Christ

Ephesians 1:3 (KJV 1900) — 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

John 6:53 (KJV 1900) — 53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
No one has even hinted there is salvation from sin and condemnation apart from Jesus Christ.

Yet, those born of God, many of them never understood or even heard of the gospel of Jesus Christ, as many in our day have heard and know the truth of it. Knowledge of the gospel is not a perquisite of being saved from sin and condemnation~ knowledge of the gospel is imperative concerning our practical salvation, of coming to the knowledge of the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ~which will produce peace, joy and comfort of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 5:8-10~"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life."

Tom, reading these scriptures, it is impossible to stand upon man's faith being the means that reconcile us unto God~impossible, unless we close our eyes and ears to the testimony of the word of God.

We are legally justified by his blood...period. When we were enemies (not when we believed!) we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son...legally speaking........... practically, it is manifested when we believe and are baptized into Jesus Christ~ or, into his religion/faith, etc.

please address the scriptures
I have already Ephesians 1:3~but never have John 6:53, I do not think I have~I'll come back in the morning to make a seaport post on that one scripture~no problem.
 
Is this problem you fellers are having stemming from the Acts 2:38 anonymous group that the RCC started 1700 years ago?
You do realize you do not have to join her group, correct?
You need to come up with new material, And stop trying to shift the Blame. The old blame game. You're the one that thinks salvation saves you don't bring catholics into it. What church do you go to that supports your beliefs? I know you won't answer because the answer to that question would expose the truthOf where you're really coming from.
 
Well we have to admit it does sink your baptism theory. It's salvation first then you get baptized. Your sins were taken care of on the cross by the blood of Jesus your salvation comes when you accept what he did. Baptism is a public ceremony depicting your conversion.
37 They said under Peter and the rest of the apostles, men and brethren, what shall we do?
38Then Peter said unto them, repent, and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins…


Yes, that commentary sunk Peters boat.
 
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