God's attribute of Justice demands PSA

101G said:
He is the END/Last of Adam, and upon his resurrection, the FIRST and ONLY Adam. for all of us are in, in, in, him. he is the NEW CREATION, first fruit. just as he is the FIRSTFRUIT of the NOW old creation.

101G.
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I have no problem with this.
 
@Johann,
May 101G share something with you? one scripture changed my whole out look on prophecy, and gave me a better understanding of God overall.
Isaiah 46:10 "Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:"

101G.
 
101G said:
@Johann,
May 101G share something with you? one scripture changed my whole out look on prophecy, and gave me a better understanding of God overall.
Isaiah 46:10 "Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:"

101G.
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Amen-and these verses have changed my whole outlook on everything.

Job_5:9 Which doeth great things and unsearchable; marvellous things without number:

Psa_145:3 Great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised; and his greatness is unsearchable.

Pro_25:3 The heaven for height, and the earth for depth, and the heart of kings is unsearchable.

Rom_11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
Rom 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
Rom 11:34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
Rom 11:35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?
Rom 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.


Eph_3:8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;-

Shalom Achi
 
TomL said:
Orthodox Christianity
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bible say God has one FACE, and not THREE Separate and distinct faces..... scripture, Revelation 22:1 "And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb." Revelation 22:2 "In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations." Revelation 22:3 "And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:" Revelation 22:4 "And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads."

101G.
 
101G said:
bible say God has one FACE, and not THREE Separate and distinct faces..... scripture, Revelation 22:1 "And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb." Revelation 22:2 "In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations." Revelation 22:3 "And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:" Revelation 22:4 "And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads."

101G.
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That is the face of the father. Christ appears as the lamb

Revelation 22:1–5 (KJV 1900) — 1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. 2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. 3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: 4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads. 5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.


How can you claim to believe in the trinity
 
TomL said:
That is the face of the father. Christ appears as the lamb
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if this is true then, who is it that sits on the Throne if the Lamb is standing before it. scripture. Revelation 5:1 "And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals." Revelation 5:2 "And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?" Revelation 5:3 "And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon." Revelation 5:4 "And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon." Revelation 5:5 "And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof." Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." Revelation 5:7 "And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne."

so, you're saying that the Lamb, (Jesus the Christ), stands before the throne, took the book out of the "Father" right hand who sits on the throne .... correct. so the LAMB, is Jesus the Christ ... Right, and the Father sits on the throne?

now one more scripture, chapter 4 before chapter 5. LISTEN CAREFULLY. Revelation 4:2 "And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne." Revelation 4:3 "And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald."

ONLY "ONE" PERSON SITS ON THE THRONE, and you said the Lord Jesus is the LAMB standing before the Throne, and he who sits on the THRONE is the Father, Correct. well let's see something. because Revelation 4:11 clearly states, "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created." ok, if this is the Father who sits on the Throne and the Son, the Lamb Jesus is standing before the throne. 101G question to You is this, "WHO GAVE THE FATHER, (THE ONE SITTING ON THE THRONE), POWER?" read Revelation 4:11, for it clearly states the Lord, who is Jesus setting on the throne. and if you say it's the Father, Revelation 4:11 states he who sat on the throne was GIVEN POWER. and as 101G asked, "WHO GAVE THE FATHER POWER, IF IT'S THE FATHER SITTING ON THE THRONE?", book chapter and verse please. and when you give that book chapter and verse then we will know who face is seen. your answer please.

101G.
 
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To all.
if one is given a truth from God, or a doctrine, and it changes, then it was not from God. this is clearly see in the JW, and those who claim that the Trinity is TRUE. if any of a truth or a doctrine has to be changed, or updated, then it did not come from God. plain and simple.

101G.
 
101G said:
To all.
if one is given a truth from God, or a doctrine, and it changes, then it was not from God. this is clearly see in the JW, and those who claim that the Trinity is TRUE. if any of a truth or a doctrine has to be changed, or updated, then it did not come from God. plain and simple.

101G.
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You just violated your own law.................thank you for today's lol

Peace my Brother in Christ
 
101G said:
if this is true then, who is it that sits on the Throne if the Lamb is standing before it. scripture. Revelation 5:1 "And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals." Revelation 5:2 "And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?" Revelation 5:3 "And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon." Revelation 5:4 "And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon." Revelation 5:5 "And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof." Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." Revelation 5:7 "And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne."

so, you're saying that the Lamb, (Jesus the Christ), stands before the throne, took the book out of the "Father" right hand who sits on the throne .... correct. so the LAMB, is Jesus the Christ ... Right, and the Father sits on the throne?

now one more scripture, chapter 4 before chapter 5. LISTEN CAREFULLY. Revelation 4:2 "And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne." Revelation 4:3 "And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald."

ONLY "ONE" PERSON SITS ON THE THRONE, and you said the Lord Jesus is the LAMB standing before the Throne, and he who sits on the THRONE is the Father, Correct. well let's see something. because Revelation 4:11 clearly states, "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created." ok, if this is the Father who sits on the Throne and the Son, the Lamb Jesus is standing before the throne. 101G question to You is this, "WHO GAVE THE FATHER, (THE ONE SITTING ON THE THRONE), POWER?" read Revelation 4:11, for it clearly states the Lord, who is Jesus setting on the throne. and if you say it's the Father, Revelation 4:11 states he who sat on the throne was GIVEN POWER. and as 101G asked, "WHO GAVE THE FATHER POWER, IF IT'S THE FATHER SITTING ON THE THRONE?", book chapter and verse please. and when you give that book chapter and verse then we will know who face is seen. your answer please.

101G.
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Keep reading Revelation.
You missed some extremely important words concerning the Lamb and the Father
 
to all,
take note...... there is no "Lamb of God in heaven", but there is a Lamb in heaven..... (smile).

101G
 

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