So an evil person's actions are compatible with God's will in compatibilism? With a god like that who needs a devil?
God requires man to HUMBLE THEMSELVES
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Yup. See Acts 4:27,28So an evil person's actions are compatible with God's will in compatibilism? With a god like that who needs a devil?
If it's of God you would be correct.
So is the Bible God's word or Paul's word? God's
Does God determine the content of His word, yup.
Did Paul, and the others, write down exactly what God would have them write down? Yup
Did Paul and the others do so freely, without force or coercion? Yup
COMPATIBILISM 101
Nope
First that does not speak of all things
you did not address this
second that is still inspiration not compatibilism
Using your methodology, taking dictation would be compatibilism
A secretary writes down exactly what the boss dictated
She does so freely and the content is controlled
It would be special pleading to argue it holds true when God is dictating but not when man is
It does speak of all of scripture. All scripture is "God breathed".You say compatibilism is not logical. I only need one example to blow that premise out of the water.
Mission accomplished
The secretary analogy only makes my point. Thanks.
COMPATIBILISM 101
All things
It is quite irrational to argue concerning all things what you imagine of one thing
You still fail to address the issue
and you flubbed the secretary issue
Using your methodology, taking dictation would be compatibilism
A secretary writes down exactly what the boss dictated
She does so freely and the content is controlled
It would be special pleading to argue it holds true when God is dictating but not when man is
How many more Crosses are there for Acts 4:27-28 to be still going on? Talk about disregarding context, calvinists continue to take the cake.
What you are attempting to do is to sacrifice God's holiness on the altar of your pagan tulip god.
This is a prime example of someone who has no arguement.How many more Crosses are there for Acts 4:27-28 to be still going on? Talk about disregarding context, calvinists continue to take the cake.
What you are attempting to do is to sacrifice God's holiness on the altar of your pagan tulip god.
Who said it was still going on?
Nope. Paul did not take dictation. Analogy FAIL.
All scripture is God breathed, yet has a human authority.
Compatibilism 101
Again, this is a classic example of calvinists disregarding context once more. The context is the predetermination of the Cross. Since the Cross has happened then the context of those verses is no longer in effect.
Thank you for confirming those verses are contextually historical and not present.
Therefore, your attempt to sacrifice God's holiness on the altar of your pagan tulip god has crashed and burned.
First
All things
It is quite irrational to argue concerning all things what you imagine of one thing
You still fail to address this issue
second the definition of compatibilism
Compatibilism (also known as soft determinism), is the belief that God's predetermination and meticulous providence is "compatible" with voluntary choice. In light of Scripture, human choices are believed to be exercised voluntarily but the desires and circumstances that bring about these choices about occur through divine determinism
is not inspiration
Inspiration is that influence of the Spirit of God upon the minds of the Scripture writers which made their writings the record of a progressive divine revelation, sufficient, when taken together and interpreted by the same Spirit who inspired them, to lead every honest inquirer to Christ and to salvation.
Augustus Hopkins Strong, Systematic Theology (Philadelphia: American Baptist Publication Society, 1907), 196.
which is not determinism
Well then you cannot use one example to show all things are determined
and btw you did not show God gave them the desire to kill Christ
which would be necessary to establish compatibilism for that single example
Johann
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Funny thing now that you have mentioned it-there is still a desire, globally, to do away with Christ Jesus, the cross, resurrection and the conviction of the Holy Spirit, the truth and the Scriptures.
Sure I can. And did.
God, as their creator also created who they are. Which includes their desires. You don't choose your desires.
Ya , okay. Good talkAgain, this is a classic example of calvinists disregarding context once more. The context is the predetermination of the Cross. Since the Cross has happened then the context of those verses is no longer in effect.
Thank you for confirming those verses are contextually historical and not present.
Therefore, your attempt to sacrifice God's holiness on the altar of your pagan tulip god has crashed and burned.
civic
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I giant OOPSSo an evil person's actions are compatible with God's will in compatibilism? With a god like that who needs a devil?
civic
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That’s Calvinist creeds nowhere found in scripture just like tulip
Calvinists are just like Catholics that way. The apple
does not fall far from the tree 
Both Catholics and Calvinist have the false teachings of Augustine in common.
Your much closer to Catholic theology than I am. Synergism ring a bell?That’s Calvinist creeds nowhere found in scripture just like tulip
Calvinists are just like Catholics that way. The apple
Both Catholics and Calvinist have the false teachings of Augustine in common.
civic
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Nope the apple ( Calvinism ) didn’t fall far from its mother tree ( Catholic Church ) hence they tried to reform it but fell way short and held onto many of its errors.
I can see you are not a student of church history.
Do you know who st augustine was ?
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Your theology is much closer to Roman Catholicism than mine will ever be. Synergism ring a bell?
