God requires man to HUMBLE THEMSELVES
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civic
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You just admitted there is no eternal decree . Thanks
Nope. Your delusionalYou just admitted there is no eternal decree . Thanks
civic
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God did not have to create so there was no eternal decree. That’s your contraindication not mine.
Or you have at some point in eternity prior to creation God deciding to create. So much for no sequence , thought , process in Gods mind.
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There is no contradiction. Your still delusional.
God created time and exists outside of time.
civic
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Nope you admitted there was a time when God decided to create prior to any decree .
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Never admitted any such thing. Delusional
civic
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Yes you did lol
civic
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You cannot have an eternal decree and at the same time claim God could have chosen not to create , that’s an oxymoron. White just got demolished by an open theist with the same argument as yours.
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civic
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You are a fatalist by definition as per vocabulary.com
Only someone can speak ie God
The word fate traces back to the Latin word fatum, meaning “that which has been spoken,” and something that's your fate is a done deal, not open to revision. If you feel like something is your fate, you feel it's beyond your control. Fate is often referred to directly, as if it were a supernatural power: “fate tore us apart." It can also describe your lot in life
It's a fairy tale for those who cannot face the determinism hence the fatalism of their system
Compatibilism is a form of determinism and it should be noted that this position is no less deterministic than hard determinism. It simply means that God's predetermination and meticulous providence is "compatible" with voluntary choice. Our choices are not coerced ...i.e. we do not choose against what we want or desire, yet we never make choices contrary to God's sovereign decree. What God determines will always come to pass (Eph 1:11)...
In light of Scripture, (according to compatibilism), human choices are exercised voluntarily but the desires and circumstances that bring about these choices about occur through divine determinism
www.monergism.com/compatibilistic-determinism
Quote me then
Determinism is not synonymous with fatalism. There are not the same. There is no causation in fatalism.
Great website. Keep educating yourself.
Nope. Fatalism has no causation. If determinism is fatalism then the cross is fatalistic. Christ's choice did not matter.
civic
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Sorry the recognized definition from vocabulary dot com refutes your false assertion
Nope. The appeal to authority fallacy.
Fatalism and determinism are not synonymous terms.
Civics position means the cross was fated. Christ's choice played no part.
civic
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lol appeal to most every definition online that confirms you are wrong
civic
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The dodger continues to run away when confronted with the logical conclusions of his doctrines .
Nope. They are not one in the same as I rightly demonstrated. Which you simply ignored which you usually do when thoroughly refuted.
The biggest difference fatalism has no causation. Determinism does.
Your position is silly. It means the cross was fated and Christ's choice did not matter.
Mr the cross was Christ's fate.
