Both of us. LOL You believe the cross was fate
God requires man to HUMBLE THEMSELVES
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I see you possess no counterargument whatsoever to the fact that you believe in the calvinist elect/non-elect caste system which is a fatalistic deterministic system. Carry on with your sleep-inducing mindnumbing state of mind that calvinistic beliefs cause.
Here is my counter arguement since your attention span is that of a 2 year old.I see you possess no counterargument whatsoever to the fact that you believe in the calvinist elect/non-elect caste system which is a fatalistic deterministic system. Carry on with your sleep-inducing mindnumbing state of mind that calvinistic beliefs cause.
If determinism is fatalism then Christ went to the cross by fate, not choice. His choice played no part. To which you have o response other than the childish "caste system, caste system." That's your answer to everything when cornered. I suspect you don't even know what a caste system is.
Here come the ad hominems like clockwork from a calvinist.
I already told you that Christ had a choice. John 10:18 proves it.
Your yawning emoji proves that you are in a sleep inducing belief system that warps critical thinking.
That's all you can say to counter the fact that you believe in a Hindu-like caste system?
So it was determined yet His choice was geniune. Welcome to compatibilism. LOLHere come the ad hominems like clockwork from a calvinist.
I already told you that Christ had a choice. John 10:18 proves it.
Your yawning emoji proves that you are in a sleep inducing belief system that warps critical thinking.
That's all you can say to counter the fact that you believe in a Hindu-like caste system?
You have no idea what a caste system is, as I said. You repeat what you heard on some stupid hater site.
Oh I agreeHere come the ad hominems like clockwork from a calvinist.
I already told you that Christ had a choice. John 10:18 proves it.
Your yawning emoji proves that you are in a sleep inducing belief system that warps critical thinking.
That's all you can say to counter the fact that you believe in a Hindu-like caste system?
He did have a choice yet it was determined. Compatibilism
According to you though determinism is fatalism. Even His choice was fated. He could not choose otherwise.
What a mess you have here
What I did say is that it's your Hindu-like elect/non-elect caste system that is clearly fatalistically determinitive. Are you ready to ditch it or will you stick to believing in your fatalistically determined caste system?
You've really painted yourself in the corner this time.
civic
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Yep
fatalism and determinism are synonymous termsDodger. If fatalism is determinism the Christ choice and eventual trip to the cross. He had no choice. It's your dumb theology. Embrace it Pelagian
So the cross is fated. Christ's choice did not matter.Yep
civic
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In Calvinism it was fate from eternity past there couldn’t be any other way or outcome .His free will choice was nothing but an illusion just like your choice to be saved and respond to the gospel is just an illusion . It was your predetermined fate. You could not choose to do otherwise which is no choice at all.
The cross was fated in your theology. A point you completely ignored, of course.
civic
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Nope that’s your theology not mine. God didn’t have to create anything but chose to create.
civic
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Nice dodge
No escaping the fate from eternity past it was all predetermined to happen including the movement of every molecule. It could not happen any other way including my reply here God determined before creation for you to read .
Calvinism 101. Now you know why so many people are leaving it in droves.
Hope this helps !!!
That is your middle name as you're projecting once again.
Since all you do is dodge questions and spit out falsehoods, I guess I'll have to toss a coin and let the coin decide for you your answer to my question below:
You've really painted yourself in the corner this time.
Many? How many? LOLNice dodge
No escaping the fate from eternity past it was all predetermined to happen including the movement of every molecule. It could not happen any other way including my reply here God determined before creation for you to read .
Calvinism 101. Now you know why so many people are leaving it in droves.
Hope this helps !!!
Determinism and fatalism are nit synonymous terms or the cross was fated as well.
civic
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It was determined in Calvinism are you denying it ? Yes of no
Could God not of created this world and mankind ? Yes or no
And that is what his theology teachesYep
