God requires man to HUMBLE THEMSELVES

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So you do age in heaven? Yet you remain the same?

Notice the Bible says there will be no more Sun, Moon or stars which is how we tell time no?

Character remains the same, the same equivocation on your part . This is your go to apologetic excuse . No scripture just questions and baseless presuppositions

 

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Yes I affirm omniscience

Can you deal with the fact God was free to create or not create

As a result the future was open at that time.

And it's your fatalism that is the heresy.

No, the future was not open at that time. That implies God did not know.

Tom is a Open Theist

Character remains the same, the same equivocation on your part . This is your go to apologetic excuse . No scripture just questions and baseless presuppositions

 

[civic]

Another questioning Fred by the dodger. You age in heaven yet you remain the sane? Yes or no

Evening in heaven is sane

No one there is insane

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[civic]

No, the future was not open at that time. That implies God did not know.

Tom is a Open Theist

Said the fatalist

 

[Presby02]

Evening in heaven is sane

No one there is insane

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SaYS who? LOL DODGER

 

[Presby02]

Said the fatalist

Said the Pelagian Open Theist

That would be an assumption nowhere stated in the bible

Did God not act in sequence in creation and was not the creation a past act and a change

The claim was yours . What if? Remember? What if it's not?

 

[Presby02]

No not in presentism

Good. Then the future is not open.

 

[Presby02]

Um the first event went from non creation to creation that was change in itself, and thus involves time as commonly held

Thank you. The first act in the sequence of acts called time. Creation

 

[civic]

Thank you. The first act in the sequence of acts called time. Creation

Presuppositions again since scripture never declares time is created

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[Presby02]

You are skirting the issue.

The issue is does God work in time and sequence or is he static and timeless in what he does

Yes there is time in heaven but no evidence you age

How do you know there is time then?

 

[civic]

Thank you. The first act in the sequence of acts called time. Creation

Is the sun and moon necessary for time to exist ? Yes or no

Here comes the big dodger

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[Presby02]

Presuppositions again since scripture never declares time is created

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This from the all means all without exception Pelagian crowd.

"ALL THINGS were created by Him and for Him"

 

[Presby02]

Is the sun and moon necessary for time to exist ? Yes or no

Here comes the big dodger

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How do we tell time?

 

[civic]

How do we tell time?

Was that a yes or a no Mr ambiguity ?

 

[Presby02]

Was that a yes or a no Mr ambiguity ?

With the Sun and the moon and stars.

YOUR TURN

 

[civic]

The silence is deafening when asked the question

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[civic]

With the Sun and the moon and stars.

YOUR TURN

So are you saying without the sun, moon and stars time cannot exist ? Yes or no

 

[civic]

The timer is ticking

 

[civic]

Must be searching google now

 

[civic]

Crickets