You begin with the assumption omniscience means the future is completely settled
however if God knows all settled facts then omniscience if affirmed even if some things are not settled
Was God free to create or not create?
God requires man to HUMBLE THEMSELVES
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however if God knows all settled facts then omniscience if affirmed even if some things are not settled
Was God free to create or not create?
You didn't answer my question
You don't get to ignore mine and I have to answer yours. The Father knew but the Son did not. How does that work?
It does. Omniscience involves knowing all there is to logically know.
So He does not know unsettled facts, which will be settled at some point at which point He learns them??
God can do as He wishes. Create, not create, save, not save.
No it is believing scripture
Jer 18:8 and that nation turns from its evil, I will change my mind.
Jer 18:10 but its people start disobeying me and doing evil, then I will change my mind and not help them at all.
Jer 26:3 Maybe the people will listen this time. And if they stop doing wrong, I will change my mind and not punish them for their sins.
Joel 2:14 I am the Lord your God. Perhaps I will change my mind and treat you with mercy. Then you will be blessed with enough grain and wine for offering sacrifices to me.
God is stated to repent
Gen 6:6,7; Exo 32:12, 14; Deut 32:36 ; Judges 2:18; 1 Sam 15:11, 29, 35; 2 Sam 24:16; 1 Chr 21:15; Psa 106:45; Jer 15:6; 18, 10; 26:3, 13, 19; 42:10; Joel 2:13; Amos 7:3, 6; Jonah 4:2;
And if something is not true God cannot know it as true
In response to my question
Was God free to create or not create?
you state God was free to create or not create
So you affirm that previous to his decision to create the issue was unsettled i.e. open
You just affirmed open theism
Nope. Poor reasoning. He night have always planned from all eternity to create.
Yes you do
You quoted verses where it is stated God will not change his mind as proof for the concept he cannot change his mind
denying scripture to boot
So his decree was as eternal as he and he was not free to not create, contradicting your previous claim
You have problems
Nope. Where does His decree come from?
Sorry, you just made his decree as eternal as he.
you need to answer that question, then you need to address how God can do anything but that which was eternally decreed
Of course it is.
When He made His decree He made the decree He wanted. LOL
That was tough
civic
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Didn't answer my question did ya? How is it the Father knew bit the Son did not?
How can God existence as cause not be antecedent to his decree as effect
Try again as you failed to think this through
as stated
Sorry, you just made his decree as eternal as he.
you need to answer that question, then you need to address how God can do anything but that which was eternally decreed
Your first sentence is incoherent. You copied it wrong. Try again
Of course it is. Did it just pip in His head one day?? Lol
Your the one who needs to think this through. Open Theism is nit a good road to travel.
Sorry it is your comprehension which is lacking
How can God existence as cause not be antecedent to his decree as effect
Try again as you failed to think this through
as stated
Sorry, you just made his decree as eternal as he.
you need to answer that question, then you need to address how God can do anything but that which was eternally decreed
ps it was not copied and you are dodging
What's God existence? LOL
Why would He do anything other than what He decreed to take place?
You don't know what God's existence is?
Which word do you not understand God or existence?
then address the question
How can you avoid the fact God must exist before he can decree
An equally eternal God and his decree is nonsense
stop dodging
As God must logically preexist his decree to create
there was a moment the future was open
as I had noted previously
you stated God was free to create or not create
So you have affirmed that previous to his decision to create the issue was unsettled i.e. open
You just affirmed open theism
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