God Has Made No Covenant With Gentiles

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No, I think I understood.​

So, let's try it again:​

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QUOTE:​

Please consider the words highlighted above. For you have included the Church which is the Body of Christ, 'the fulness of Him that filleth all in all' into the Acts period, and the New Covenant, when it was still 'hid in God' (Eph. 3:9) during that time: and was not the subject of the book of Acts, or of the epistles written prior to it's Divinely being revealed to Paul, and made known by him during his imprisonment at Rome. It being the subject of the epistles written during that time to Eph. Phil. Col. 2 Tim. Titus and Philemon.​

RESPONSE: The New Covenant Church of Acts is a continuation of the Great Congregation in the desert at the time of the Tabernacle in which over 3 million Jews were delivered from Egypt. At this time God made covenant with the children of Israel through Moses. At Pentecost 3000 Jews were born-again and filled with the Holy Spirit of Promise as per the Jeremiah 31 prophecy. This, including the Abrahamic Covenant is made with the Hebrews/Jews.​

'Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
that I will make a new covenant
with the house of Israel,
and with the house of Judah:'
(Jer 31:31)

Hello @jeremiah1five,

I agree that just as the Old Covenant was made with Israel, so will the New Covenant be. Is this what occurred at Pentecost? Was Pentecost the fulfillment of the prophecy of Jeremiah 31? If that were so, would not ALL ISRAEL have been saved instead of a believing remnant only? Would not what we read in Jeremiah 31: 33-34 be in evidence.

'But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
and write it in their hearts;
and will be their God, and they shall be My People.
And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour,
and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD:
for they shall all know Me,
from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
for I will forgive their iniquity,
and I will remember their sin no more.'
(Jer 31:33-34)

QUOTE: The New Covenant is in abeyance at this time, because of Israel's rejection of their Messiah: both 'in the land' during the gospels, and in the diaspora at Acts 28, resulting in their present Lo-ammi condition following the quotation of Isaiah 6:9-10 by the Apostle Paul (Acts 28:25-27).​

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RESPONSE: There was no 'temporary pause" [abeyance] in the New Covenant but a heading straight on with the plan of God which is a progressive plan to save out of the world a people to Himself. The last prophet to speak to Israel was Malachi 400 years earlier. Christ came, taught Israel, died and resurrected for Israel according to the Scriptures. Ten days later the Holy Spirit of Promise came to the Jews according to the Scriptures and for the next four decades God was still dealing with the Jews. Although the events in Jerusalem with regard to Jesus Christ was localized and not all the people rejected Him. Proof: 3000 Jews were born again.​

* I agree that the New Testament record is a continuation of God's dealings with Israel: but only the believing remnant, who were at the feast of Pentecost received the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, not Israel as a nation. For the nation itself, represented by it's leadership had rejected their Messiah and King, and went on to refuse the call by Peter to repent made in Acts 3:19-21:-

'Repent ye therefore, and be converted,
that your sins may be blotted out,
when the times of refreshing shall come
from the presence of the Lord;
And He shall send Jesus Christ,
which before was preached unto you:
Whom the heaven must receive
until the times of restitution of all things,
which God hath spoken
by the mouth of all His holy prophets
since the world began.'

For the next four decades the Jewish Christians (as they were called in Acts 11) spent all that time before their Temple was destroyed learning and trying to understand this Holy Spirit and the phenomenon taking place among the Jews and searched the Hebrew Scriptures to try to understand all these things and Messiah's effect upon their covenants. They didn't know it at the time but the Body of Christ was being built before their very eyes. It was a Jewish covenant, Jesus is a Jewish Messiah, the Holy Spirit was birthing Jews into the Body of Christ/Messiah, THEIR Messiah.​

When the Temple was destroyed the "ism" of Judaism was effectively ended. Now the Times of the Gentiles was to begin, and we are in that time right now. But it is coming to an end. And I believe it will come with the destruction of the Gentile nations and Gentile Christians in those nations. The Gentile Church (yes, they were "called out", too) will go through the Time of Jacob's Trouble" along with Israel, and God will remove the blindness, the two witnesses will prophesy TO/Against Israel (and others) and will show through their Law, Psalms, and Prophets that this Jesus is their long-awaited Messiah, and return to Israel and fight alongside Israel against her enemies God is supernaturally bringing against His people and the last enemy to be destroyed is death.​

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There is a lot of history in which Gentiles have the theology they possess right now that is in error and my eyes are beginning to see all those errors as discussion at this forum develops. But for the most part, the Gentile Church has many things in error that I deal with here and, Chris, on the subjects we've interacted with and with regard to Israel and her covenants we don't oppose each other so far on the things you've commented on in my threads. I am blunt, straightforward, and honest in my replies and after re-reading my earlier comments see that my direct approach may have been a little 'strict.' So, take all this with a grain of salt, my salty friend, and with me don't be hesitant to speak your mind and come at me honest and direct just as I do to you. That is the Golden Rule, is it not (do unto others...)?​

* Thank you @jeremiah1five. I appreciate you sharing with me. I do not have others to talk to about these things, and reading what you have to say, helps me to get things straight in my mind. Please don't stop doing so.

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head.
Chris

 

[Jamie Russell CME]

'And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed,
after that Paul had spoken one word,
Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,
.. Saying, Go unto this people, and say,
.... Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand;
...... and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:
........ For the heart of this people is waxed gross,
.......... and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed;
............ lest they should see with their eyes,
.............. and hear with their ears,
................ and understand with their heart,
.................. and should be converted,
.................... and I should heal them.
Be it known therefore unto you,
that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles,
and that they will hear it.'
(Act 28:25-28)

Hello @Jamie Russell CME,

Following the failure of Israel to come to repentance, and their rejection of their Messiah and King, both in the land and in the diaspora, there is no longer an Olive Tree to be grafted into. That is why revelation was given to Paul, by the risen Christ, concerning the church which is His Body, of which He is the Head, and made known through Paul as it's Steward: in the epistles to the Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon.
Israel has no part in salvation at this present time, for salvation was sent to the gentiles. Both Jew and Gentile are equal and united in Christ their Head, as one Body, 'the fulness of Him that filleth all in all'.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

So I will be catching up on this stream when I get a chance, but my initial response will just be to clarify what I am saying. I like the nuance I am seeing in some of these comments. My point is that the evidence suggests the covenants are an evolution. One is exchanged into the other per Hebrews 8 onward. And that Jesus fulfilled the bringing of the new covenant to His people by ratification in His blood. Therefore, He started the church/body of believers in Him with those who were first covenant, true Israel. The promises were to those people and that established, fulfilled prophecy per Jeremiah 31 starts the new covenant God was always looking forward to as the way to call all nations back to Him.

In conclusion, is there a distinction between Israel and the church? Depends on the context of the question. Clearly Paul makes the separation. But mostly as to speak of those who have accepted Messiah with those of Israel who do not believe in their Messiah. Some would eventually and some wouldn't. But the church is really just the beginning of God's purpose for all nations which was brought to bear through His first covenant people. And the entire foundation of the "church" (Followers of God) was established by faithful covenant believers. Literal descendants of Abraham who recognized their Messiah.

 

[Titus]

Jesus' earthly ministry was His limited commission.
Jesus commanded that His gospel be preached to the Jews only,
Matthew 10:6-8,
- but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel,
and as you go preach saying The kingdom of heaven is at hand

After Jesus' death, ressurection and His return to His Father in heaven Jesus preached the great commission.
This is Jesus' gospel to all nations, it must be preached first to Jews then later to gentiles also

Matthew 28:18-20,
- All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth
go therefore and make disciples of all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit
teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you and lo I am with you always even to the emd of the age, amen

In Acts 2 the apostles had just been Holy Spirit baptized to do the work of the great commission,
Acts 1:8,
- but you(apostles) shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you and you shall be my witnesses to Me in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria and to the end of the earth
Acts 2:1-4,
- when the day of penetcost had fully come they were all with one accord in one place
And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues(foreign languages) as the Spirit gave them utterance

Now the church is established starting in Acts chapter 2
Peter preached the gospel of Jesus Christ to the Jews only
Acts 2:22, ;
- men of  Israel hear these words Jesus of Nazareth a Man attested by God to you by miracles wonders and signs which God did through Him in your midst....you have taken by lawless hands have crucified and put to  death...
31 - he foreseeing this spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ...
This God has raised up which we are all witnesses
Therefore being exalted to the right hand of God and having recieved from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He pored out this which you now see and hear
36 - Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus whom you crucified both Lord and Christ
37 - now when they(jews) heard this they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren(house of Israel) what shall we do

Now the first time we see a gentile being taught the new testament gospel of Jesus is not until Acts 10
Acts 10:28; 45
- Then Peter said to them, You know how unlawful it is for a Jewish man to keep company with or go to one of another nation but God has shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean
45
- and those of the circumcision who believed(In Jesus) were astonished as many as came with Peter because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also.


Conclusion: Jesus 'earthly ministry was first limited to the Jews but after His death, burial and ressurection was expanded to all nations both jew and gentile
Romans 1:16,
- for I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes for the jew  first and also for the greek

 

[jeremiah1five]

'Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
that I will make a new covenant
with the house of Israel,
and with the house of Judah:'
(Jer 31:31)

Hello @jeremiah1five,

I agree that just as the Old Covenant was made with Israel, so will the New Covenant be. Is this what occurred at Pentecost? Was Pentecost the fulfillment of the prophecy of Jeremiah 31? If that were so, would not ALL ISRAEL have been saved instead of a believing remnant only? Would not what we read in Jeremiah 31: 33-34 be in evidence.

'But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
and write it in their hearts;
and will be their God, and they shall be My People.
And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour,
and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD:
for they shall all know Me,
from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
for I will forgive their iniquity,
and I will remember their sin no more.'
(Jer 31:33-34)

* I agree that the New Testament record is a continuation of God's dealings with Israel: but only the believing remnant, who were at the feast of Pentecost received the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, not Israel as a nation. For the nation itself, represented by it's leadership had rejected their Messiah and King, and went on to refuse the call by Peter to repent made in Acts 3:19-21:-

'Repent ye therefore, and be converted,
that your sins may be blotted out,
when the times of refreshing shall come
from the presence of the Lord;
And He shall send Jesus Christ,
which before was preached unto you:
Whom the heaven must receive
until the times of restitution of all things,
which God hath spoken
by the mouth of all His holy prophets
since the world began.'


* Thank you @jeremiah1five. I appreciate you sharing with me. I do not have others to talk to about these things, and reading what you have to say, helps me to get things straight in my mind. Please don't stop doing so.

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head.
Chris

This will be short.
ALL Scripture (Law, Psalms, Prophets) must be taken from one standpoint: God speaks to ALL Israel in covenant with God. Whatever you read in these Scriptures must be understood that God speaks those words to a people already in covenant. And there is no "he believes, he doesn't believe" for if one is in covenant with God they will be saved. That's the nature of covenant especially if there is no provision between those the believe and those that don't.
There's a reason why Saul says:

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: Rom. 11:26.

Well, the Deliverer came according to the Scriptures. And He turned away ungodliness from Jacob. It doesn't say He turned away ungodliness from those that believe or had faith. It's very clear cut. Nor does it say God is going to deliver only a remnant or those that believe or have faith. Saul understood covenant. So did the prophets. So did all Israel.

God even delivered those that sinned against Him after the golden calf incident. They may have died physically, but as per the Abrahamic Covenant in which they were still under before the Law came there is no requirement of faith in that covenant and God saves without the prerequisite of faith. Let that settle in your mind: "the Deliverer [shall] turn away ungodliness from Jacob (Israel.)"
Plain and simple.

ALL Israel shall be saved. Even the Samaritan and the children born in exile with Gentile parents. If there is Hebrew blood in the person (which will coincide with their names in the book of life) they are covenant and will be saved.
If this is true it just might place more light in these verses:

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. Rev. 5:8–10.

God knows. Maybe the "kindred" and "tongue" and "people" and "nation" are a mixed breed of descendants of the twelve tribes that because of the exile married or fornicated with the Assyrian and Babylonian conquerors. And from these mixed blood Jews are those identified in verse 9 above. It's not impossible. Bearing this in mind also bear this in mind too: God made no covenant with Gentiles or the seed of Gentiles. But God is saving Gentiles without covenant. Or is He? Maybe the Gentiles God has been bringing in since the Advent of the Holy Spirit have Jewish blood in them. How many people can trace their bloodlines all the way to the Assyrian and Babylonian conquest when genes began to get mixed up.

God made no covenant with Gentiles. He is saving Gentiles without covenant - unless there is Jewish blood in their veins.
Something to think about.
Remember, you heard it here first.
Let's give it ten years and see if these statements will come full circle back to me.

 

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This will be short.​

ALL Scripture (Law, Psalms, Prophets) must be taken from one standpoint: God speaks to ALL Israel in covenant with God. Whatever you read in these Scriptures must be understood that God speaks those words to a people already in covenant. And there is no "he believes, he doesn't believe" for if one is in covenant with God they will be saved. That's the nature of covenant especially if there is no provision between those that believe and those that don't.​

There's a reason why Saul says:​

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26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: Rom. 11:26.​

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Well, the Deliverer came according to the Scriptures. And He turned away ungodliness from Jacob. It doesn't say He turned away ungodliness from those that believe or had faith. It's very clear cut. Nor does it say God is going to deliver only a remnant or those that believe or have faith. Saul understood covenant. So did the prophets. So did all Israel.​

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God even delivered those that sinned against Him after the golden calf incident. They may have died physically, but as per the Abrahamic Covenant in which they were still under before the Law came there is no requirement of faith in that covenant and God saves without the prerequisite of faith. Let that settle in your mind: "the Deliverer [shall] turn away ungodliness from Jacob (Israel.)"​

Plain and simple.​

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ALL Israel shall be saved. Even the Samaritan and the children born in exile with Gentile parents. If there is Hebrew blood in the person (which will coincide with their names in the book of life) they are covenant and will be saved.​

If this is true it just might place more light in these verses:​

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9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;​

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. Rev. 5:8–10.​

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God knows. Maybe the "kindred" and "tongue" and "people" and "nation" are a mixed breed of descendants of the twelve tribes that because of the exile married or fornicated with the Assyrian and Babylonian conquerors. And from these mixed blood Jews are those identified in verse 9 above. It's not impossible. Bearing this in mind also bear this in mind too: God made no covenant with Gentiles or the seed of Gentiles. But God is saving Gentiles without covenant. Or is He? Maybe the Gentiles God has been bringing in since the Advent of the Holy Spirit have Jewish blood in them. How many people can trace their bloodlines all the way to the Assyrian and Babylonian conquest when genes began to get mixed up.​

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God made no covenant with Gentiles. He is saving Gentiles without covenant - unless there is Jewish blood in their veins.​

Something to think about.​

Remember, you heard it here first.​

Let's give it ten years and see if these statements will come full circle back to me.

Subject Heading:- God Has Made No Covenant With Gentiles​

In that He saith, A new covenant,
he hath made the first old.
Now that which decayeth and waxeth old
is ready to vanish away.'
(Heb 8:13)

Hello there, @jeremiah1five,

You have given me a lot to consider, which I will do with my Bible open, later.

When I responded regarding the Old and New Covenant, it is the Mosaic covenant that I had in mind: That made at Sinai with the children of Israel; Which was not unconditional like that of the Abrahamic covenant that you have referred to in this entry. Israel broke the covenant of which Moses was the Mediator, but the Lord Jesus Christ, by the shedding of His blood for the remission of sins (Mat. 26:28), became the Mediator of a New Covenant: That promised in Jeremiah 31.

As you say, Israel are associated with a covenant, old and new. Believing Gentiles during the Acts were blessed with faithful Abraham, but by nature and in the flesh the Gentiles were strangers from the covenant of promise (Eph. 2:12), and in the teaching of the Prison epistles (Eph. Phil, Col. 2 Tim. Tit. Phile.), no covenant of any description is known.

I thank you for your thoughts regarding the Abrahamic covenant, and those who were the subjects of it. I will consider all that you have said, and come back to you (God willing).

In Christ Jesus
our risen and glorified
Saviour, Lord and Head.
Chris

 

[jeremiah1five]

Subject Heading:- God Has Made No Covenant With Gentiles​

In that He saith, A new covenant,
he hath made the first old.
Now that which decayeth and waxeth old
is ready to vanish away.'
(Heb 8:13)

Hello there, @jeremiah1five,

You have given me a lot to consider, which I will do with my Bible open, later.

When I responded regarding the Old and New Covenant, it is the Mosaic covenant that I had in mind: That made at Sinai with the children of Israel; Which was not unconditional like that of the Abrahamic covenant that you have referred to in this entry. Israel broke the covenant of which Moses was the Mediator, but the Lord Jesus Christ, by the shedding of His blood for the remission of sins (Mat. 26:28), became the Mediator of a New Covenant: That promised in Jeremiah 31.

As you say, Israel are associated with a covenant, old and new. Believing Gentiles during the Acts were blessed with faithful Abraham, but by nature and in the flesh the Gentiles were strangers from the covenant of promise (Eph. 2:12), and in the teaching of the Prison epistles (Eph. Phil, Col. 2 Tim. Tit. Phile.), no covenant of any description is known.

I thank you for your thoughts regarding the Abrahamic covenant, and those who were the subjects of it. I will consider all that you have said, and come back to you (God willing).

In Christ Jesus
our risen and glorified
Saviour, Lord and Head.
Chris

I do two things: I post that which I believe Scripture teaches, or I post Scripture with my chosen understanding which cannot necessarily proved nor disproved but I post it still to make others THINK. Who knows? maybe someone has more info I can add to my understanding to take a sturdier position rather than "possibles" and "could be" or "IMHO."

 

[Titus]

A covenant is a contract. In scripture it is a contract made between God and man. In the old testament with jews and in the new with jew and gentile,
1Corinthians 6:19-20,
- for you were bought with a price therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit which are Gods

God owns those whom He saved, He purchased us with His blood.
Christian's both jew and gentile are in a covenant relationship with God,
Luke 22:20,
- Likewise Jesus also took the cup after supper saying this cup is My new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you
1Corinthians 11:25,
- in the same manner Jesus also took the cup after supper saying this cup is the new covenant in My blood this do as often as you drink it in remembrance of Me

Jesus purchased us with His blood, the cup that Christian's partake of in the Lords supper is a reminder of the new covenant all Christian's are in this contract.

Hebrews 8:13; 15-17
- in that He says a new covenant he has made the first obsolete now what is becoming old is ready to vanish away
-And for this reason Jesus is the Mediator of the new covenant by means of death for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant that those who are called(both jew and gentile are called) may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance

This new covenant/contract is made with those who are called.
God calls both jew and gentile to Him,
Acts 2:39,
- for the promise is to you and to your children and to all who are afar off as many as the Lord our God will  call

Called by the gospel,
2Thessalonians 2:14,
- to which He called you by our gospel for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ

Gospel is how God calls all men.
Acts 2:39 calls those who are afar off= Ephesians 2:11-13,
- therefore remember that you once  gentiles in the flesh who are called the uncircumcision by what is called the circumcision made with the flesh of hands
That at that time you were without Christ being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise having no hope and without God in the world
But now in Christ Jesus you who once were afar off(gentiles) have been brought near by the blood of Christ

Both are now in the new covenant, Ephesians 2:16,
- that God might reconcile them both(uncircumcision & circumcision) to God in one body through the cross thereby putting to death the enmity

God sees no difference in jew or gentiles all are made one in Christ.
All are now spiritual Jews in Christ, Romans 2:28-29,
- for he is not a jew who is one outwardly nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh
But he  is a jew who is one inwardly and circumcision is that of the heart in the Spirit not in the letter whose praise is not from men but from God

Paul says gentiles are now spiritual Jews not of the old law i.e. letter but of the Spirit i.e. new covenant,
Romans 8:2,
- for the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus( new testament of Christ) has made us free from the law of sin and death(old law of Moses old covenant with physical Israel)

 

[jeremiah1five]

A covenant is a contract. In scripture it is a contract made between God and man. In the old testament with jews and in the new with jew and gentile,
1Corinthians 6:19-20,
- for you were bought with a price therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit which are Gods

There are NO COVENANTS in the New Covenant Scriptures. The New Covenant is said by God to be between God and the House of Israel. There are no Gentiles mentioned in Jeremiah 31:31-34.
If God wanted Gentiles to be part of the covenant in Jeremiah, He would have said so.
One cannot ADD to the covenant in Jeremiah 31 after the fact and 700 years later.
ALL the covenants are with a family line of Hebrews (and the children of Israel and the House of Israel.
God made no covenant with Gentiles or the seed of Gentiles.

God owns those whom He saved, He purchased us with His blood.
Christian's both jew and gentile are in a covenant relationship with God,
Luke 22:20,
- Likewise Jesus also took the cup after supper saying this cup is My new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you
1Corinthians 11:25,
- in the same manner Jesus also took the cup after supper saying this cup is the new covenant in My blood this do as often as you drink it in remembrance of Me

And there were twelve Jews at the Passover meal which meal is a Jewish observance commemorating Israels deliverance from the bondage of Egypt. But here, this is what a covenant looks like and notice the language:

12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. Gen. 9:12–15.

10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Gen. 17:10.

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; Jer. 31:33.

NOWHERE in ALL of the Law, Psalms, and the Prophets God making covenant with Gentiles.
NOWHERE in the New Covenant Scripture does God make covenant with Gentiles.

Jesus purchased us with His blood, the cup that Christian's partake of in the Lords supper is a reminder of the new covenant all Christian's are in this contract.

Make that Jewish Christians since it is a Jewish Covenant with a Jewish Messiah promised to the House of Israel also known as the Jews.

Hebrews 8:13; 15-17
- in that He says a new covenant he has made the first obsolete now what is becoming old is ready to vanish away
-And for this reason Jesus is the Mediator of the new covenant by means of death for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant that those who are called(both jew and gentile are called) may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance

Yes, the First Covenant was made with the children of Israel under Moses, and the Second Covenant is made with the House of Israel in Jeremiah 31.

This new covenant/contract is made with those who are called.
God calls both jew and gentile to Him,
Acts 2:39,
- for the promise is to you and to your children and to all who are afar off as many as the Lord our God will  call

Notice Peter is speaking to the twelve tribes of Israel also known as the Jews:

14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea [Southern kingdom], and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem Acts 2:14.

22 Ye men of Israel [Northern kingdom], hear these words; Acts 2:22.

You read the Scripture with a Gentiles mindset. Learn to look at the Jewish Scriptures with a Jewish mindset and come to the knowledge of the truth.

Called by the gospel,
2Thessalonians 2:14,
- to which He called you by our gospel for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ
Gospel is how God calls all men.

The gospel means "good news." And Jesus sent His disciples to the twelve tribes living in Gentile lands to herald the Advent of their Messiah. THAT is the good news, that God has kept His Promise made to Israel - NOT to any Gentiles.

Acts 2:39 calls those who are afar off= Ephesians 2:11-13,
- therefore remember that you once  gentiles in the flesh who are called the uncircumcision by what is called the circumcision made with the flesh of hands
That at that time you were without Christ being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise having no hope and without God in the world
But now in Christ Jesus you who once were afar off(gentiles) have been brought near by the blood of Christ

Both are now in the new covenant, Ephesians 2:16,
- that God might reconcile them both(uncircumcision & circumcision) to God in one body through the cross thereby putting to death the enmity

God sees no difference in jew or gentiles all are made one in Christ.
All are now spiritual Jews in Christ, Romans 2:28-29,
- for he is not a jew who is one outwardly nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh
But he  is a jew who is one inwardly and circumcision is that of the heart in the Spirit not in the letter whose praise is not from men but from God

Paul says gentiles are now spiritual Jews not of the old law i.e. letter but of the Spirit i.e. new covenant,
Romans 8:2,
- for the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus( new testament of Christ) has made us free from the law of sin and death(old law of Moses old covenant with physical Israel)

The New Covenant writings were written by Jewish Christians [Saul, Peter, James, John, Matthew, etc.] and sent to Jewish Christians. The Book of Hebrews is written to Hebrews/Jews.

James writes to Jews of twelve tribes:

JAMES, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. James 1:1.

 

[Johann]

NOT to any Gentiles.

Seems you are anti-Goyim-with PAUL and his 13 letters to the GENTILES-I can see now why PAUL is not a likable fella in the JEWISH mindset.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Seems you are anti-Goyim-with PAUL and his 13 letters to the GENTILES-I can see now why PAUL is not a likable fella in the JEWISH mindset.

No, not anti-Goyim. Nor do I dislike Saul. I like him very much. I learned a great deal from Saul.
It's just that I realized some time ago that I was taught error that Saul wrote to Gentiles when he didn't. He wrote to Jewish Christians, and when I saw that this was the case my understanding deepened. I even understood to look more closely when the word "Gentiles" was mentioned because it is not out of the question that he most likely referred to Gentile proselytes in his letters unless the context showed mentioning hard-core, uncircumcised Gentiles.
It makes no sense to me God would spend 4000 years making covenant to a particular family in Abraham the Hebrew, then again with his seed a people known as the children of Israel, and then the first words out of His mouth in the Israeli New Covenant was to hard-core, uncircumcised Gentiles. And then to recognize the New Covenant is made with the House of Israel and the house of Judah, then things began to make more sense and I began to see my understanding deepen.
The Holy Spirit changed my mind, and I began to see the New Covenant Scriptures were written by Jewish Christians to and for other Jewish Christians in the New Covenant era trying to understand the effect of Israel's Messiah upon the Abrahamic and Mosaic Covenants.
ALL Scripture of Law, Psalms, Prophets and New Covenant writings are Jewish in nature. ALL the covenants belong to Israel.

4 Who are Israelites;
to whom pertaineth the adoption,
and the glory,
and the covenants,
and the giving of the law,
and the service of God,
and the promises;
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh
Christ came,
who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom. 9:4–5.

All these encapsulate everything having to do with Yahweh's salvation to His Covenant people.
Gentiles own NONE OF THESE.

 

[Dizerner]

For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly

 

[Johann]

I realized some time ago that I was taught error that Saul wrote to Gentiles when he didn't.

Act_9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

Act_10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Act_11:1 And the apostles and brethren that were in Judaea heard that the Gentiles had also received the word of God.

Act_11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

Act_13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.

Act_13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.

Act_13:47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.

Act_13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

Act_14:2 But the unbelieving Jews stirred up the Gentiles, and made their minds evil affected against the brethren.

Act_14:5 And when there was an assault made both of the Gentiles, and also of the Jews with their rulers, to use them despitefully, and to stone them,

Act_14:27 And when they were come, and had gathered the church together, they rehearsed all that God had done with them, and how he had opened the door of faith unto the Gentiles.

Act_15:3 And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren.

Act_15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

Act_15:12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.

Act_15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.

Act_15:17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.

Act_15:19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:

Act_15:23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:

Act_18:6 And when they opposed themselves, and blasphemed, he shook his raiment, and said unto them, Your blood be upon your own heads; I am clean: from henceforth I will go unto the Gentiles.

Act_21:11 And when he was come unto us, he took Paul's girdle, and bound his own hands and feet, and said, Thus saith the Holy Ghost, So shall the Jews at Jerusalem bind the man that owneth this girdle, and shall deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.

Act_21:19 And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry.

Act_21:21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.

Act_21:25 As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.

Act_22:21 And he said unto me, Depart: for I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles.

Act_26:17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,

Act_26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

Act_26:23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.

Act_28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.

Rom_1:13 Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles.

Rom_2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

Rom_2:24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.

Rom_3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

Rom_3:29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:

Rom_9:24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

Rom_9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.

Rom_11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

Rom_11:12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

Rom_11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

Rom_11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Rom_15:9 And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name.

Rom_15:10 And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people.

Rom_15:11 And again, Praise the Lord, all ye Gentiles; and laud him, all ye people.

Rom_15:12 And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.

Rom_15:16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

Rom_15:18 For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed,

Rom_15:27 It hath pleased them verily; and their debtors they are. For if the Gentiles have been made partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister unto them in carnal things.

Rom_16:4 Who have for my life laid down their own necks: unto whom not only I give thanks, but also all the churches of the Gentiles.

1Co_5:1 It is reported commonly
that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

1Co_10:20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

1Co_10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

1Co_12:2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.

1Co_12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Gal_2:2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.

Gal_2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles

Gal_2:12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.

Gal_2:14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

Gal_2:15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,

Gal_3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Eph_2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

Eph_3:1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,

Eph_3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

Eph_3:8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;

Eph_4:17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,

Col_1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

1Th_2:16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

1Th_4:5 Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:

1Ti_2:7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.

1Ti_3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

2Ti_1:11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.

2Ti_4:17 Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me, and strengthened me; that by me the preaching might be fully known, and that all the Gentiles might hear: and I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion.

1Pe_2:12 Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.

1Pe_4:3 For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:

3Jn_1:7 Because that for his name's sake they went forth, taking nothing of the Gentiles.

Rev_11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Praise YHVH for His chesed for the Ha-Goyim and NOT to Jews only!-and PAUL is STILL preaching the gospel to the Goyim!

 

[jeremiah1five]

For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly

29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. Rom. 2:29.

Gentiles make every attempt to place themselves in the Jewish covenants but if God had wanted to include Gentiles, then either everyone would be circumcised, or no one would be circumcised. But God has made circumcision as the sign of covenant and being of the seed of Abraham is necessary to be in covenant.
There is NO EVIDENCE in the Hebrew Scriptures of Law, Psalms, and Prophets recording God ever making covenant with Gentiles through which salvation is ground and relationship with God is found.

God has made no covenant with Gentiles or the seed of Gentiles.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Act_9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

Act_10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Act_11:1 And the apostles and brethren that were in Judaea heard that the Gentiles had also received the word of God.

Act_11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

Act_13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.

Act_13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.

Act_13:47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.

Act_13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

Act_14:2 But the unbelieving Jews stirred up the Gentiles, and made their minds evil affected against the brethren.

Act_14:5 And when there was an assault made both of the Gentiles, and also of the Jews with their rulers, to use them despitefully, and to stone them,

Act_14:27 And when they were come, and had gathered the church together, they rehearsed all that God had done with them, and how he had opened the door of faith unto the Gentiles.

Act_15:3 And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren.

Act_15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

Act_15:12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.

Act_15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.

Act_15:17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.

Act_15:19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:

Act_15:23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:

Act_18:6 And when they opposed themselves, and blasphemed, he shook his raiment, and said unto them, Your blood be upon your own heads; I am clean: from henceforth I will go unto the Gentiles.

Act_21:11 And when he was come unto us, he took Paul's girdle, and bound his own hands and feet, and said, Thus saith the Holy Ghost, So shall the Jews at Jerusalem bind the man that owneth this girdle, and shall deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.

Act_21:19 And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry.

Act_21:21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.

Act_21:25 As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.

Act_22:21 And he said unto me, Depart: for I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles.

Act_26:17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,

Act_26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

Act_26:23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.

Act_28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.

Rom_1:13 Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles.

Rom_2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

Rom_2:24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.

Rom_3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

Rom_3:29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:

Rom_9:24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

Rom_9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.

Rom_11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

Rom_11:12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

Rom_11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

Rom_11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Rom_15:9 And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name.

Rom_15:10 And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people.

Rom_15:11 And again, Praise the Lord, all ye Gentiles; and laud him, all ye people.

Rom_15:12 And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.

Rom_15:16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

Rom_15:18 For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed,

Rom_15:27 It hath pleased them verily; and their debtors they are. For if the Gentiles have been made partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister unto them in carnal things.

Rom_16:4 Who have for my life laid down their own necks: unto whom not only I give thanks, but also all the churches of the Gentiles.

1Co_5:1 It is reported commonly
that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

1Co_10:20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

1Co_10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

1Co_12:2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.

1Co_12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Gal_2:2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.

Gal_2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles

Gal_2:12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.

Gal_2:14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

Gal_2:15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,

Gal_3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Eph_2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

Eph_3:1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,

Eph_3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

Eph_3:8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;

Eph_4:17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,

Col_1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

1Th_2:16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

1Th_4:5 Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:

1Ti_2:7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.

1Ti_3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

2Ti_1:11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.

2Ti_4:17 Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me, and strengthened me; that by me the preaching might be fully known, and that all the Gentiles might hear: and I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion.

1Pe_2:12 Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.

1Pe_4:3 For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:

3Jn_1:7 Because that for his name's sake they went forth, taking nothing of the Gentiles.

Rev_11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Praise YHVH for His chesed for the Ha-Goyim and NOT to Jews only!-and PAUL is STILL preaching the gospel to the Goyim!

Is flooding your response a tactic to prevent me from responding because it's working and isn't appropriate in denying me response, so I won't respond. I'm sure you could have posted several (under five) Scriptures purporting to support your understanding of Scripture without the excess.

 

[Dizerner]

God has made no covenant with Gentiles or the seed of Gentiles.

All the promises are to Christ and based on Christ, who removes the dividing wall.

I will keep You and give You as a covenant to the people, As a light to the Gentiles, (Isa. 42:6 NKJ)

There is neither Jew nor Greek (Gal. 3:28 NKJ)

Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, (1 Cor. 7:19 NKJ)

 

[jeremiah1five]

All the promises are to Christ and based on Christ, who removes the dividing wall.

I will keep You and give You as a covenant to the people, As a light to the Gentiles, (Isa. 42:6 NKJ)

There is neither Jew nor Greek (Gal. 3:28 NKJ)

Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, (1 Cor. 7:19 NKJ)

Yes, Christ is the eventual recipient of the covenant and prophetic promises God made with Israel.
Being a 'light to the Gentiles' is not evidence of covenant. But the language in this passage does evidence Israel as the covenant people of God.

In Galatians 3:28 Saul is encouraging his Jewish brethren who had concerns as to the effect of Messiah on the Jewish covenants such as is being referenced the Abrahamic Covenant. Saul is saying to the seed of Abraham who have been born again as per covenant promises that is they are in Christ they are still the seed of Abraham.

in 1 Corinthians 7:19 and surrounding passages the issue deals with whether uncircumcised Gentiles who have become born again need to be circumcised. There is no evidence of any covenant God has made with Gentiles in this epistle.

 

[Johann]

Is flooding your response a tactic to prevent me from responding because it's working and isn't appropriate in denying me response, so I won't respond. I'm sure you could have posted several (under five) Scriptures purporting to support your understanding of Scripture without the excess.

Glad it worked-since you are in denial of PAUL's ministry to the Goyim.

 

[civic]

There are NO COVENANTS in the New Covenant Scriptures. The New Covenant is said by God to be between God and the House of Israel. There are no Gentiles mentioned in Jeremiah 31:31-34.
If God wanted Gentiles to be part of the covenant in Jeremiah, He would have said so.
One cannot ADD to the covenant in Jeremiah 31 after the fact and 700 years later.
ALL the covenants are with a family line of Hebrews (and the children of Israel and the House of Israel.
God made no covenant with Gentiles or the seed of Gentiles.

And there were twelve Jews at the Passover meal which meal is a Jewish observance commemorating Israels deliverance from the bondage of Egypt. But here, this is what a covenant looks like and notice the language:

12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. Gen. 9:12–15.

10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Gen. 17:10.

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; Jer. 31:33.

NOWHERE in ALL of the Law, Psalms, and the Prophets God making covenant with Gentiles.
NOWHERE in the New Covenant Scripture does God make covenant with Gentiles.


Make that Jewish Christians since it is a Jewish Covenant with a Jewish Messiah promised to the House of Israel also known as the Jews.

Yes, the First Covenant was made with the children of Israel under Moses, and the Second Covenant is made with the House of Israel in Jeremiah 31.

Notice Peter is speaking to the twelve tribes of Israel also known as the Jews:

14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea [Southern kingdom], and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem Acts 2:14.

22 Ye men of Israel [Northern kingdom], hear these words; Acts 2:22.

You read the Scripture with a Gentiles mindset. Learn to look at the Jewish Scriptures with a Jewish mindset and come to the knowledge of the truth.

The gospel means "good news." And Jesus sent His disciples to the twelve tribes living in Gentile lands to herald the Advent of their Messiah. THAT is the good news, that God has kept His Promise made to Israel - NOT to any Gentiles.

The New Covenant writings were written by Jewish Christians [Saul, Peter, James, John, Matthew, etc.] and sent to Jewish Christians. The Book of Hebrews is written to Hebrews/Jews.

James writes to Jews of twelve tribes:

JAMES, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. James 1:1.

Jesus said its the New Covenant with His blood. Matthew 26:28, cf Hebrews 9:15-28 that confirms Jesus words/teaching on the New Covenant that makes the old obsolete.

hope this helps !!!

 

[Johann]

Jesus said its the New Covenant with His blood. Matthew 26:28, cf Hebrews 9:15-28 that confirms Jesus words/teaching on the New Covenant that makes the old obsolete.

hope this helps !!!

Bingo!

Isa 49:6 And He said, It is too small a thing that Thou shouldest be Eved to Me to raise up the Shivtei Ya'akov, and to bring back the Netzurei Yisroel (Preserved of Israel, the She'erit); I will also give Thee for Ohr Goyim, that Thou mayest be My Yeshuah (Salvation) unto the ketzeh ha'aretz.


It is a light thing that: or, Art thou lighter, than that, etc. 2Ki_3:18, 2Ki_20:10
preserved: or, desolations
I will also: Isa_42:6, Isa_60:3; Luk_2:32; Joh_1:4-9; Act_13:47, Act_26:18
that thou mayest: Isa_11:10, Isa_24:14-16, Isa_46:13, Isa_52:10; Psa_98:2-3; Luk_24:46-47

 

[Titus]

There are NO COVENANTS in the New Covenant Scriptures. The New Covenant is said by God to be between God and the House of Israel. There are no Gentiles mentioned in Jeremiah 31:31-34.
If God wanted Gentiles to be part of the covenant in Jeremiah, He would have said so.
One cannot ADD to the covenant in Jeremiah 31 after the fact and 700 years later.
ALL the covenants are with a family line of Hebrews (and the children of Israel and the House of Israel.
God made no covenant with Gentiles or the seed of Gentiles.

And there were twelve Jews at the Passover meal which meal is a Jewish observance commemorating Israels deliverance from the bondage of Egypt. But here, this is what a covenant looks like and notice the language:

12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. Gen. 9:12–15.

10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Gen. 17:10.

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; Jer. 31:33.

NOWHERE in ALL of the Law, Psalms, and the Prophets God making covenant with Gentiles.
NOWHERE in the New Covenant Scripture does God make covenant with Gentiles.


Make that Jewish Christians since it is a Jewish Covenant with a Jewish Messiah promised to the House of Israel also known as the Jews.

Yes, the First Covenant was made with the children of Israel under Moses, and the Second Covenant is made with the House of Israel in Jeremiah 31.

Notice Peter is speaking to the twelve tribes of Israel also known as the Jews:

14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea [Southern kingdom], and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem Acts 2:14.

22 Ye men of Israel [Northern kingdom], hear these words; Acts 2:22.

You read the Scripture with a Gentiles mindset. Learn to look at the Jewish Scriptures with a Jewish mindset and come to the knowledge of the truth.

The gospel means "good news." And Jesus sent His disciples to the twelve tribes living in Gentile lands to herald the Advent of their Messiah. THAT is the good news, that God has kept His Promise made to Israel - NOT to any Gentiles.

The New Covenant writings were written by Jewish Christians [Saul, Peter, James, John, Matthew, etc.] and sent to Jewish Christians. The Book of Hebrews is written to Hebrews/Jews.

James writes to Jews of twelve tribes:

JAMES, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. James 1:1.

Sir, it amazes me that you believe gentiles are not under a contract with God. That means we are not bound to follow any new testament law!!!

Old testament prophets even include gentiles in Gods covenant with jews,
Isaiah 56,
- Thus says the Lord keep justice and do righteousness for My salvation is about to come and My righteousness to be revealed blessed is the man who does this and the son of man who lays hold on it
Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath and keeps His hand from doing evil do not let the son of the foreigner who has joined himself to the Lord speak saying, the Lord has utterly seperated me from His people nor let the eunch say here I am a dry tree for this says the Lord to the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths and choose what pleases Me, and hold fast My covenant even to them I will give in My house and within My walls a place and a name better than that of sons and daughters(jews) I will give them(foreigners) an everlasting name they(foreigners) shall not be cut off.

If there be any doubt God is not speaking to gentiles keeping His covenant with the Jews then these next verses make it cristal clear!!!
Isaiah 56:6-8,
- Also the sons of the foreigner(gentile) who join themselves to the Lord to serve Him and to love the name of the Lord to be His servants EVERYONE(JEW&GENTILE) who keeps from defiling the Sabbath
AND HOLDS FAST MY COVENANT
even them I will bring to My holy mountain and make then joyful in My house of prayer.....

Now pay attention to what Isaiah says about those keeping Gods covenant!!!
Who is it?
Verse 7
- even them...their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be accepted on My altar for My house shall be called a house of prayer FOR ALL NATIONS

Even in the old covenant God allowed gentiles to be under that covenant if gentiles chose to become proselytes.

Today is the same under the new covenant.
All that desire to be christians will be allowed in to Gods covenant with Him!!!
Romans 1:16,
- for I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes for the jew first and also for the greek(gentile)

btw, The book of James was written to christians!!!
Yes the 12 tribes but not to Jews who held to Judaism but to Jews who left Judaism to follow Christs perfect law of liberty! James 1:25
And that is why the book of James is also instruction for gentile christians.
Both jew and gentile converts to Christ are under the same doctrine of Christ!!.,
Galatians 6:2,
- bear one another's burdens and so fullfil the law of Christ

No covenant for gentiles? No law to keep for gentiles
Paul says in Galatians both are to fulfill the law of Christ proving both are in a contract/covenant with God