Finally, The Correct Interpretation of the 70 Weeks Prophecy in Daniel

[civic]

According to the evidences that I have presented.

I do think it’s in our lifetime and that His appearing drawer nigh.

 

[EclipseEventSigns]

 

[civic]

Thanks for sharing your video.

 

[civic]

Also I like you behaviors of the closed minded. I think its seen more online than in real life from my experience.

trolls
ostriches
deflectors
twisters
personal revelation
projectors

I would add another group- the conflators/equivocators.

 

[civic]

My former pastor who is now retired use to hold an annual prophecy conference at our church every year with some really good guest speakers like Hocking, Hindson, Caner, Miichell. His name is Dr David Seifert. I use to be in his home bible study group and when he was out of town I would lead the group. He still guest speaks at conferences. Maybe I can get you connected with him. I will invite him to my forum here to check it out. He married our daughter.

Here are some of his sermon audio's

Dr. David Seifert

Dr. David Seifert is senior pastor of Shelter Cove Community Church (SCCC) in Modesto California. He teaches a daily radio program, Growing Throu...

www.sermonaudio.com

 

[civic]

Finally, The Correct Interpretation of the 70 Weeks in Daniel

In our cynical age, the kneejerk reaction will be to reject this claim or even laugh this off as ridiculous. Can the barriers be broken just to get to an open mind that would even consider this evidence?

What this is NOT.

• It is not based on a vision or personal revelation
• It is not tied to a particular denomination or church tradition
• It is not based on a particular type of year (ie. 360 day "prophetic" year)
• It is not tied to a particular translation of the Bible

What this IS and why it's the correct interpretation.

• It does treat the original text, written in Hebrew, as accurate historically, culturally and linguistically
• It is consistent with the entire message of Scripture
• It is consistent with all other prophetic passages of Scripture
• It uses the restored Jewish calendar which was in use during the Biblical era

But why has this interpretation NEVER before been seen until now?

This proper interpretation has only been rediscovered now in our modern age. It was never meant to be properly understood until the time of the end. This is due to various phases of how this passage has been interpreted since it was originally spoken by Gabriel.

Daniel properly understood the 70 Weeks from the start. [Dan 9:22 LSB] Then he made [me] understand and spoke with me and said, "O Daniel, I have now come forth to give you insight with understanding."

The proper interpretation was hidden from and not fully understood by the majority after the book began to be circulated. However, the original Hebrew text and the Aramaic translation in the Targums was understood generally and led to a general expectation of the coming Messiah. However, the original Greek Septuagint had a totally corrupt text for Daniel 9. (What is now in the current Septuagint is Theodotian's translation of Daniel from centuries later.)

Some did have a more accurate understanding. Most likely the Magi figured out the prophecy. Very likely Simeon and Anna (in the temple) also knew exactly when the Messiah would arrive.

After 70 AD and continuing through the early Roman Church period, the dominant view was to treat the prophecy as allegory. Less and less access to the written text for the common folk allowed this view to remain for centuries.

The prophecy as understood by the jewish scholars never had a hope of being understood correctly. Their system of historical dates omitted several centuries as compared with historical fact.

With the invention of the printing press and the availability of readable translations, study of the prophecy increased. However, the particular interpretation bias found in the King James Version did not allow for the proper understanding of the prophecy to develop. The eastern churches who used the Greek translation mirrored that same interpretation bias so they also were similarly in the dark.

Increasing scholarship of ancient history allowed for the restoration of accurate literal-based alternatives to the allegorical interpretation. Some of these included those by Bishop Ussher, Magellan, and Isaac Newton. But they all came to very similar conclusions due to the influence of church tradition, use of the Jewish calendar and common assumptions. In the late 1800s Sir Robert Anderson introduced a completely novel interpretation which seemed to solve the various issues that many had struggled with.

This became the dominant interpretation of conservative Bible scholars for almost one hundred years. There have, of course, been many fringe interpretations which can be very easily dismissed upon examination. During the early 1970's Harold Hoehner recognized that there were several flaws in Anderson's method and attempted to correct them. This then became the accepted interpretation which has been accepted since.

However, this interpretation accepted by the majority is flawed because

• it still makes use of the corruptions in the modern Jewish calendar,
• it is still forced into a certain interpretation because it is based on the assumptions of the translators of the King James Version,
• it does not recognize that the presumed historical anchor dates are just not historically possible and
• it does not fully appreciate the purpose of why the 70 Weeks prophecy was given in the first place.

But since 2005 the proper and accurate interpretation of the 70 Weeks of Daniel has been understood again. The first time in two millennia.


I hope this has piqued your interest to investigate further. Here is a link to the 7 video series which explains the proper understanding of the 70 Weeks Prophecy in great detail. I invite you to examine all the included references and sources for yourself.
70 Weeks Prophecy Series

Or if you prefer the published book which contains even greater detail and all the calculations, see here:
Hidden Rhythms in Prophecy

I just subscribed to your channel. And I'm going to watch the videos in the link in this thread.

 

[EclipseEventSigns]

Also I like you behaviors of the closed minded. I think its seen more online than in real life from my experience.

trolls
ostriches
deflectors
twisters
personal revelation
projectors

I would add another group- the conflators/equivocators.

Most people would never say out loud what they write online. But I know they are thinking it.

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

I watched the whole series. Very interesting. I'm not qualified to say if it's correct, but I found it fascinating, thanks.

 

[civic]

I watched the whole series. Very interesting. I'm not qualified to say if it's correct, but I found it fascinating, thanks.

Yes it makes you put on your thinking cap and I can see lots of dedication and research has gone into them. I have watched 3 so far.

 

[DavP]

I must issue a WARNING to the brethren about information in the original post.

One of the objects of that post is an ATTACK upon the Bible translations in possession of the early Christian Church and even to this day, particularly the 1611 KJV Bible, and the Greek translations the early Church also used.

The following quotes point to that kind of 'Orthodox' Jewish thinking...

"However, the particular interpretation bias found in the King James Version did not allow for the proper understanding of the prophecy to develop. The eastern churches who used the Greek translation mirrored that same interpretation bias so they also were similarly in the dark."


Also that post further says...
"But since 2005 the proper and accurate interpretation of the 70 Weeks of Daniel has been understood again. The first time in two millennia."

The suggestion from the original post of this thread is to give up all... understanding about the 70 weeks prophecy from the Book of Daniel in possession by the Christian Church, and instead heed what Jewish scholars say about it. That should make brethren in Christ see a HUGE RED FLAG.

And those in Christ Jesus DO NOT NEED a 7 video series by someone who downplays our existing possession of The Holy Scriptures when the 70 weeks prophecy in Daniel 9 has been easily... understood by those in Christ via The Holy Spirit, since the giving by Christ Jesus of His Book of Revelation, which parallels many of those prophetic events in the Book of Daniel!!!

 

[EclipseEventSigns]

I must issue a WARNING to the brethren about information in the original post.

One of the objects of that post is an ATTACK upon the Bible translations in possession of the early Christian Church and even to this day, particularly the 1611 KJV Bible, and the Greek translations the early Church also used.

The following quotes point to that kind of 'Orthodox' Jewish thinking...

"However, the particular interpretation bias found in the King James Version did not allow for the proper understanding of the prophecy to develop. The eastern churches who used the Greek translation mirrored that same interpretation bias so they also were similarly in the dark."


Also that post further says...
"But since 2005 the proper and accurate interpretation of the 70 Weeks of Daniel has been understood again. The first time in two millennia."

The suggestion from the original post of this thread is to give up all... understanding about the 70 weeks prophecy from the Book of Daniel in possession by the Christian Church, and instead heed what Jewish scholars say about it. That should make brethren in Christ see a HUGE RED FLAG.

And those in Christ Jesus DO NOT NEED a 7 video series by someone who downplays our existing possession of The Holy Scriptures when the 70 weeks prophecy in Daniel 9 has been easily... understood by those in Christ via The Holy Spirit, since the giving by Christ Jesus of His Book of Revelation, which parallels many of those prophetic events in the Book of Daniel!!!

What is the purpose of your warning? What exactly is wrong or untrue with anything that was said? It's all factual.

Hebrew writing does not make a distinction between upper and lower case letters. But the KJV and many other translations specifically capitalize "Messiah" and "Prince" in Daniel 9. This is not found in the original Hebrew text. Therefore, it is adding interpretation bias to the text. This should never be allowed and God specifically warns against this practice.

So it is a factual statement that anyone who bases their prophetic interpretation on the KJV and any other translation that adds to the Bible will NEVER have a proper understanding of the prophecy. That's just the facts.

 

[DavP]

What is the purpose of your warning? What exactly is wrong or untrue with anything that was said? It's all factual.

I am not one you can fool. Even your above statement that all that you said is "factual" is just an attempt to hide your obvious BIAS against the Christian Scriptures.

To my Brethren in Christ Jesus:
It is an unheard of remark among the Christian Church to say that Christianity has not had in possession the real truth about the 70 weeks prophecy given Daniel in the Book of Daniel, and that only in 2005 has that real truth come to light. When you hear someone say ideas like that, and especially try to pass to you a 7 video series that takes to try and explain their 'theories', then you should see a great big ole' RED FLAG.

 

[DavP]

Strikes me as lazy that someone would not be willing to invest the time to summarize it.

Makes me think it's more sparkle than substance.

Sorry.

And you would be correct to think that. It is not that difficult, IF... one simply stays with the Scriptures as written; and especially so since we now have The New Testament Scriptures which put it all into proper perspective regarding not just the history of Daniel's time, but also the very end of this world leading up to Christ's future return.

 

[EclipseEventSigns]

I am not one you can fool. Even your above statement that all that you said is "factual" is just an attempt to hide your obvious BIAS against the Christian Scriptures.

To my Brethren in Christ Jesus:
It is an unheard of remark among the Christian Church to say that Christianity has not had in possession the real truth about the 70 weeks prophecy given Daniel in the Book of Daniel, and that only in 2005 has that real truth come to light. When you hear someone say ideas like that, and especially try to pass to you a 7 video series that takes to try and explain their 'theories', then you should see a great big ole' RED FLAG.

Then if you can't be fooled, please explain the actual facts. Tell me where I got it wrong about the Hebrew letters and the original text. Explain why the KJV translators didn't ADD to Scripture by capitalizing words that were not in the original text.

It's laughable you think I have a bias against Scripture. Everything I've ever said holds Scripture to the highest standard. My goal has always been to find out why the apparent mistakes exist and how to make sense of them. It's actually a very HUGE RED FLAG to hear someone have the opinion that the King James Version is somehow "inspired" and without error when it's very easy to point to very many errors. With Daniel 9 being a glaring example.

 

[DavP]

Then if you can't be fooled, please explain the actual facts. Tell me where I got it wrong about the Hebrew letters and the original text. Explain why the KJV translators didn't ADD to Scripture by capitalizing words that were not in the original text.

It's laughable you think I have a bias against Scripture. Everything I've ever said holds Scripture to the highest standard. My goal has always been to find out why the apparent mistakes exist and how to make sense of them. It's actually a very HUGE RED FLAG to hear someone have the opinion that the King James Version is somehow "inspired" and without error when it's very easy to point to very many errors. With Daniel 9 being a glaring example.

No need for contest challenges, The New Testament Scriptures make understanding in the Book of Daniel easy to understand.

 

[EclipseEventSigns]

No need for contest challenges, The New Testament Scriptures make understanding in the Book of Daniel easy to understand.

So you can't explain away the facts that I have put forward. Noted.
Then neither does anyone need to heed your warning. You have no evidence to back it up.

 

[Jamie Russell CME]

I know the truth. I am game, lets chat

 

[Jamie Russell CME]

 

[Jamie Russell CME]

 

[EclipseEventSigns]

There are two videos included which are related and describe the same interpretation. Basically starting the 70 Weeks from 457 BC and ending in 34 AD. Having no gaps. Stating that the final Week began in 27 AD at the baptism of Jesus with His crucifixion 3 1/2 years later. The end of the video presents this as a 7th Day Adventist view point making an important prophetic year of 1844 AD.

The Ezra 6:14 Challenge identifies several objective facts about the 70 Weeks prophecy which we can judge all interpretations against. But before I evaluate the information in the videos using those, there are some important points about the prophecy which were not addressed.
1. One of the 6 reasons in Dan 9:24 is to "finish the transgression" or that the rebellion against God is complete. It is obvious that transgression/rebellion did not end in 34 AD.
2. Much was made about the first half of Dan 9:26 about Messiah being cut off. But what about the destruction of the city and sanctuary? That obviously must have come after the end of the final Week if that was 34 AD. The timeline is all mixed up.
3. What about the abomination of desolation mentioned in Dan 9:27? It was not addressed at all in the videos.

Moving on to the Ezra 6:14 Challenge.
1. Ezra 6:14 says there were 4 commands given. First by God, then by Cyrus, Darius and Artaxerxes. This interpretation does not take into account the first command given by God. When did that happen?
2. In Daniel 9:25, the word usually translated as "decree" is actually "utterance or words". Daniel never uses this word to describe the decree of an earthly king. He uses an entirely different word for that. So it can not be referring to the decree of Artaxerxes in 457 BC.
3. The videos use the KJV translation. It has been pointed out that the KJV has a faulty translation. The Hebrew language does not distinguish between capitals and lower case letters. Therefore, when the KJV capitalizes "Messiah" and "Prince" it is adding to the Bible something that is not there in the original language. The interpretation bias of the translators hides the real meaning of the text. Any translation that includes capitals has an incorrect translation.
4. Gabriel specifically states 3 distinct periods of Weeks. There must be a reason for each period. A specific start and end point. What is the purpose of the first 7 Weeks? You can't just lump the 7 and 62 together. The text distinctly says "after the 62 Weeks". Not "after the 69 Weeks".
5. For this you have to investigate the original Hebrew. The "and" between the "seven weeks" & "sixty two weeks" is similar grammatically to the later "one week" & "half the week". Why combine the 7 and 62 together and not the 1 and 1/2 Weeks together too? You have to treat them consistently if you are honest with the text.
6. There are 2 keys words used in both the 7 Weeks section and the 62 Weeks section. "Sub" and "bana". translated as "to restore" and "to rebuild". Actually "sub" should more correctly be "to return to" as that is how it's translated the vast majority of times it is used in the Old Testament. So it is about returning to and rebuilding Jerusalem. Not about "restoring the judiciary" as this video interpretation asserts. Where is the judiciary even talked about in the 70 Weeks? That's called reading into the text.

There could be more addressed. But just with those points, this interpretation does not meet the Ezra 6:14 Challenge. Unless these things can be explained treating the Hebrew text correctly, it's not likely that this interpretation is correct.