DavidTree
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Sorry, he stated no such thing.
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You go find it = "seek and you will find"
Sorry, he stated no such thing.
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CopoutYou go find it = "seek and you will find"
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If you make a claim, you need to support it
Prove itYou make claims that are diabolicly opposed to Christ own words.
i don't make claims = i PROCLAIM the words of God from His Heart = Proverbs 30:5-6
Scripture does not insert a gap of thousands of years between the 69th and 70th week of Daniel 9Prove it
You are not fulfilling your obligation
CORRECTScripture does not insert a gap of thousands of years between the 69th and 70th week of Daniel 9
What is it you seek proof of?Prove it
You are not fulfilling your obligation
Your claimWhat is it you seek proof of?
Yes but it appears that you disagreed with me elsewhere affirming a split between the 69th and 70th weekCORRECT
Where in scripture do you claim to see this?Your claim
Splitting the 70th from the 69 th week
"i did not split the 70th Week but GOD did with His GOSPEL."
I don't see any split between the 69th and 70th week anywhere in scriptureWhere in scripture do you claim to see this?
Maybe the idea is that the gospel came in the middle of the 70th week but was still a unified week??I don't see any split between the 69th and 70th week anywhere in scripture
It appeared to me, you did with your previous statement
"i did not split the 70th Week but GOD did with His GOSPEL."
Typically those who hold to a gap separate the 69th from the 70th weekMaybe the idea is that the gospel came in the middle of the 70th week but was still a unified week??
The split is this. The coming of the Messiah mentioned at the end of the 69th week is Jesus Triumphal Entry into Jerusalem, where they announced "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord." Someone picked one of the decrees (not sure which one), broke down the number of days, ran it next to the proper calendar, and it ended on the day in some year around 30 AD (I can't remember the exact year) on the very date that year, using the Jewish calendar, in the proper Jewish month, of what would have been the Triumphal Entry if it happened that year. That isn't a smoking gun, but it gives credence to God being very direct, and not like those prophets today who totally speak presumptuously in the name of the Lord. The fact that God sees this as a problem means that when He speaks, it isn't something figurative or allegorical, but it is direct. We may not be able to see it because we are talking about God speaking, and we are simply men. Note that between the time of Jesus triumphal entry, and 70 AD which God speaks to in the 70 weeks prophecy, there is way more than 7 years. There is a gap. Even the Early church fathers from around the 2nd century knew and believed that. However, they only spoke to the last 3 1/2 years of the 7 year period. So unlike some futurists, they didn't hold to a seven year tribulation, but that the Great Tribulation was the last 3 1/2 years of the 70th week.Typically those who hold to a gap separate the 69th from the 70th week
69th week, gap, 70th week.
This is entirely different than that which most all gap theorists hold to. They hold the 70th week is yet future even after a 2000 year time gap. Beyond that it is possible to see the beginning of Christ's ministry as the time demarcated as unto messiah the prince and the 70 A.D. event as being outside the 70 weeks.The split is this. The coming of the Messiah mentioned at the end of the 69th week is Jesus Triumphal Entry into Jerusalem, where they announced "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord." Someone picked one of the decrees (not sure which one), broke down the number of days, ran it next to the proper calendar, and it ended on the day in some year around 30 AD (I can't remember the exact year) on the very date that year, using the Jewish calendar, in the proper Jewish month, of what would have been the Triumphal Entry if it happened that year. That isn't a smoking gun, but it gives credence to God being very direct, and not like those prophets today who totally speak presumptuously in the name of the Lord. The fact that God sees this as a problem means that when He speaks, it isn't something figurative or allegorical, but it is direct. We may not be able to see it because we are talking about God speaking, and we are simply men. Note that between the time of Jesus triumphal entry, and 70 AD which God speaks to in the 70 weeks prophecy, there is way more than 7 years. There is a gap. Even the Early church fathers from around the 2nd century knew and believed that. However, they only spoke to the last 3 1/2 years of the 7 year period. So unlike some futurists, they didn't hold to a seven year tribulation, but that the Great Tribulation was the last 3 1/2 years of the 70th week.
Also, the whole prophecy came about due to Daniel reading Jeremiah, not Ezekiel, and God answered to that.